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Vorcil
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[edit] d/w he reflected me; thanks for all the great support... you're all such wonderful people lol. [/edit]
Edited by Vorcil on 8 December 2016 13:40
  • Alucardo
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    Lol wtf. I assume there were some crossed-wires there. Was there a Nightblade with them? Maybe all the sweep spam got the recap confused.
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    Are you a NB? If you are most likely he just reflect your spell back at you.
  • Asmael
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    Eclipse & morphz.

    Nuff said.
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  • Docmandu
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    Don't spam skills when your target uses a reflect. L2P issue :smile:
  • Lava_Croft
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    @Wrobel: Another crystal clear case of the game being too difficult. Please remove reflects or add a set of gear that automatically reflects whatever you get reflected at you.
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    Ah, I like reflecting grasp. My fat clunky templar becomes so fast
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    Lmao
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    kek/10 thread.
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  • DannyLV702
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    I still remember back when I raged over DKs having crystal frags too lol
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Lol wtf. I assume there were some crossed-wires there. Was there a Nightblade with them? Maybe all the sweep spam got the recap confused.


    either confused death recap or some really good hacker :smiley:
  • AzuraKin
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    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    I still remember back when I raged over DKs having crystal frags too lol

    i just hate animation cancelling more then anything else in the game for game brokenness. nothing in game should be cast without the animation to tell people what you are doing. without that there can never be a balance to the game.
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  • Kutsuu
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    AzuraKin wrote: »
    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    I still remember back when I raged over DKs having crystal frags too lol

    i just hate animation cancelling more then anything else in the game for game brokenness. nothing in game should be cast without the animation to tell people what you are doing. without that there can never be a balance to the game.

    Total Dark has a GIANT BLACK BUBBLE that forms around your character. You literally can't miss it.

    They already broke animations terribly in their most recent attempt to make animations show when cancelling is going on. I love constantly getting stuck in heavy attacks when all I did was a light weave.
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  • Ashamray
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    Kutsuu wrote: »
    AzuraKin wrote: »
    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    I still remember back when I raged over DKs having crystal frags too lol

    i just hate animation cancelling more then anything else in the game for game brokenness. nothing in game should be cast without the animation to tell people what you are doing. without that there can never be a balance to the game.

    Total Dark has a GIANT BLACK BUBBLE that forms around your character. You literally can't miss it.

    They already broke animations terribly in their most recent attempt to make animations show when cancelling is going on. I love constantly getting stuck in heavy attacks when all I did was a light weave.

    Clever templars don't use Eclipse. Grasp was probably reflected by snb, and snb "spark" is much more difficult to see
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  • Docmandu
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    Ashamray wrote: »
    Kutsuu wrote: »
    AzuraKin wrote: »
    DannyLV702 wrote: »
    I still remember back when I raged over DKs having crystal frags too lol

    i just hate animation cancelling more then anything else in the game for game brokenness. nothing in game should be cast without the animation to tell people what you are doing. without that there can never be a balance to the game.

    Total Dark has a GIANT BLACK BUBBLE that forms around your character. You literally can't miss it.

    They already broke animations terribly in their most recent attempt to make animations show when cancelling is going on. I love constantly getting stuck in heavy attacks when all I did was a light weave.

    Clever templars don't use Eclipse. Grasp was probably reflected by snb, and snb "spark" is much more difficult to see

    It's not about clever... It's just that the skill is garbage.. and the morph is even worse.. brought by our favorite clueless combat design team.
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    @Lava_Croft

    I actually already wondered why reflect didn't get removed yet. It's the only mechanic that punishes you for being bad. I think it should rather negate projectiles rather than actually reflecting them.
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    Must be a Magika proc set
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  • BuggeX
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    i got wispered why i killed a noob with injection and snipe when i dont even have a bow. i laughted at him while i t-baged him
    Edited by BuggeX on 6 December 2016 21:02
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  • SwaminoNowlino
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    I may be missing something, but it looks like the dead dude is a templar based on the buffs displayed on screen. So how would crippling grasp be reflected back at OP? Of course its the end of a long work day and I could definitely be missing something.
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  • susmitds
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    If you look carefully, you will see that OP is a templar. No reflect here.
  • kadar
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    I recently fought a templar that I SWEAR used Shadow Image... Was probably lag or some other misdirection, but I'm not so sure...
  • OdinForge
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    @Wrobel: Another crystal clear case of the game being too difficult. Please remove reflects or add a set of gear that automatically reflects whatever you get reflected at you.

    giphy.gif

    Stop it pls, he'll really do it. Don't tempt him.
    Edited by OdinForge on 6 December 2016 22:04
    The Age of Wrobel.
  • Knootewoot
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    I may be missing something, but it looks like the dead dude is a templar based on the buffs displayed on screen. So how would crippling grasp be reflected back at OP? Of course its the end of a long work day and I could definitely be missing something.

    Doesn't the one-handed and shield skill "Defensive Stance" reflect crippling grasp? Maybe he used that. Or is it not considered a projectile?
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Docmandu wrote: »
    Don't spam skills when your target uses a reflect. L2P issue :smile:

    Winner ^
  • BuggeX
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    mby ist a set
    Edited by BuggeX on 7 December 2016 10:01
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  • Izaki
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    What I don't get is how on earth is Cripple considered a projectile... I mean its a DoT. You can't reflect Searing Strike and morphs, right?
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  • SwaminoNowlino
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I may be missing something, but it looks like the dead dude is a templar based on the buffs displayed on screen. So how would crippling grasp be reflected back at OP? Of course its the end of a long work day and I could definitely be missing something.

    Doesn't the one-handed and shield skill "Defensive Stance" reflect crippling grasp? Maybe he used that. Or is it not considered a projectile?

    It shouldn't matter. If the dead person in the image is indeed a templar as the buffs displayed on the screen suggest, then he shouldn't get a crippling grasp reflected back on him no matter how it was reflected. Unless something has changed with the reflect system?

    Tons of stupid things are considered projectiles, like toppling charge, But again, unless I am missing something or I'm not understanding the reflect mechanic, a templar should never have a crippling grasp reflected back.
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    - And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!

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  • danno8
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    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I may be missing something, but it looks like the dead dude is a templar based on the buffs displayed on screen. So how would crippling grasp be reflected back at OP? Of course its the end of a long work day and I could definitely be missing something.

    Doesn't the one-handed and shield skill "Defensive Stance" reflect crippling grasp? Maybe he used that. Or is it not considered a projectile?

    It shouldn't matter. If the dead person in the image is indeed a templar as the buffs displayed on the screen suggest, then he shouldn't get a crippling grasp reflected back on him no matter how it was reflected. Unless something has changed with the reflect system?

    Tons of stupid things are considered projectiles, like toppling charge, But again, unless I am missing something or I'm not understanding the reflect mechanic, a templar should never have a crippling grasp reflected back.

    @SwaminoNowlino You get that buff when you are dead and someone uses Repentance on you. It stays on you until you rez so others can't use Repentance on you a second time.

    Nothing to see here (except the usual confusing/crappy death recap labelling)
    Edited by danno8 on 7 December 2016 14:21
  • SwaminoNowlino
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I may be missing something, but it looks like the dead dude is a templar based on the buffs displayed on screen. So how would crippling grasp be reflected back at OP? Of course its the end of a long work day and I could definitely be missing something.

    Doesn't the one-handed and shield skill "Defensive Stance" reflect crippling grasp? Maybe he used that. Or is it not considered a projectile?

    It shouldn't matter. If the dead person in the image is indeed a templar as the buffs displayed on the screen suggest, then he shouldn't get a crippling grasp reflected back on him no matter how it was reflected. Unless something has changed with the reflect system?

    Tons of stupid things are considered projectiles, like toppling charge, But again, unless I am missing something or I'm not understanding the reflect mechanic, a templar should never have a crippling grasp reflected back.

    @SwaminoNowlino You get that buff when you are dead and someone uses Repentance on you. It stays on you until you rez so others can't use Repentance on you a second time.

    Nothing to see here (except the usual confusing/crappy death recap labelling)

    I was looking at the buffs on the far right side of the screen, the third icon down. Its small and my eyesight is bad but I thought that looked like a templar buff. Could definitely be wrong though. Which consoles had a buff timer so we could see that stuff.

    @Vorcil were you playing as a nightblade?
    Edited by SwaminoNowlino on 7 December 2016 16:22
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    "We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
    - And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!

    I get by with a little help from logic.
  • danno8
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I may be missing something, but it looks like the dead dude is a templar based on the buffs displayed on screen. So how would crippling grasp be reflected back at OP? Of course its the end of a long work day and I could definitely be missing something.

    Doesn't the one-handed and shield skill "Defensive Stance" reflect crippling grasp? Maybe he used that. Or is it not considered a projectile?

    It shouldn't matter. If the dead person in the image is indeed a templar as the buffs displayed on the screen suggest, then he shouldn't get a crippling grasp reflected back on him no matter how it was reflected. Unless something has changed with the reflect system?

    Tons of stupid things are considered projectiles, like toppling charge, But again, unless I am missing something or I'm not understanding the reflect mechanic, a templar should never have a crippling grasp reflected back.

    @SwaminoNowlino You get that buff when you are dead and someone uses Repentance on you. It stays on you until you rez so others can't use Repentance on you a second time.

    Nothing to see here (except the usual confusing/crappy death recap labelling)

    I was looking at the buffs on the far right side of the screen, the third icon down. Its small and my eyesight is bad but I thought that looked like a templar buff. Could definitely be wrong though. Which consoles had a buff timer so we could see that stuff.

    @Vorcil were you playing as a nightblade?

    Not sure what that one is. But for that particular buff tracker, I know the "P" means it is a permanent buff. With all the perma-buffs that sets give these days it could be anything.

    Of course if the OP just came in and confirmed he was playing NB, he could put this thread to rest. But that would mean he would have to apologize to the guy in his screenshot for implying he was cheating in some way.
  • SwaminoNowlino
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    danno8 wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    Knootewoot wrote: »
    I may be missing something, but it looks like the dead dude is a templar based on the buffs displayed on screen. So how would crippling grasp be reflected back at OP? Of course its the end of a long work day and I could definitely be missing something.

    Doesn't the one-handed and shield skill "Defensive Stance" reflect crippling grasp? Maybe he used that. Or is it not considered a projectile?

    It shouldn't matter. If the dead person in the image is indeed a templar as the buffs displayed on the screen suggest, then he shouldn't get a crippling grasp reflected back on him no matter how it was reflected. Unless something has changed with the reflect system?

    Tons of stupid things are considered projectiles, like toppling charge, But again, unless I am missing something or I'm not understanding the reflect mechanic, a templar should never have a crippling grasp reflected back.

    @SwaminoNowlino You get that buff when you are dead and someone uses Repentance on you. It stays on you until you rez so others can't use Repentance on you a second time.

    Nothing to see here (except the usual confusing/crappy death recap labelling)

    I was looking at the buffs on the far right side of the screen, the third icon down. Its small and my eyesight is bad but I thought that looked like a templar buff. Could definitely be wrong though. Which consoles had a buff timer so we could see that stuff.

    @Vorcil were you playing as a nightblade?

    Not sure what that one is. But for that particular buff tracker, I know the "P" means it is a permanent buff. With all the perma-buffs that sets give these days it could be anything.

    Of course if the OP just came in and confirmed he was playing NB, he could put this thread to rest. But that would mean he would have to apologize to the guy in his screenshot for implying he was cheating in some way.

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    "We want firing off Dark Exchange in the middle of combat to feel awesome." - The Balance Lord Wrobel
    - And now it sure does, better learn how to bash folks!

    I get by with a little help from logic.
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