PawadoTheFearless wrote: »I bought several crates as I had saved up crowns in anticipation of the event. I was very happy with the results. Got several mounts and outfits and a bunch of useful stuff. Some not so useful too but turned those back in for crowns. I did not keep track of what all I got but do know I have no complaints. But I do have a question. With the stuff I turned in for crowns, how do you spend those? They do not look like they work like regular crowns?
gothickaiserub17_ESO wrote: »driosketch wrote: »gothickaiserub17_ESO wrote: »Quick question, I really only want the High-Collard Coin Bell Dress, can i junk for gems cosmetics/mounts i don't own or is it only duplicates and consumables that are junkable?
@gothickaiserub17_ESO only duplicates, which is automatic, and consumables.
lame, that's gonna up the min. crate purchases to guarantee it quite a bit. Honestly being able to junk anything you get reeeeally would be a nice feature to help people get what they want a little quicker, which i suppose is not the point of gambling crates at all! They are literally banking on people really wanting 1 specific item from them
Ah the penny drops
I have to say, I've just realised something. As far as I'm aware, ZOS have not once come out in defence of crates. That, to me, is admirable. So many companies go on a PR spree when they do this kind of thing, trying to convince customers that "we're just doing this for you guys - really" and similar rubbish, but credit where credit is due - ZOS doesn't seem to have tried to go full snake-oil salesman on this. I applaud that, their silence in defence of these things is great honesty.
Actually they had a big PR article on mmorpg.com, talking about how great these crates of consumables are. They have just been silent to their own community.
MMORPG: Why now add these to ESO, several years on?
MF: ESO is a living, breathing service and as such we make changes to it every quarter or so – new content, new systems, fixes, balance changes, etc. Just over a year ago we changed the game’s primary revenue model from subscription-required to subscription-optional, for example. This coming Update, we will drop character level requirements for exploring content, which is a large change to the game that we think will make the game more socially enabled and make it easier for players to find friends and group with them. We are committed to keeping the game fresh and interesting for players for the life of the game, so we will add new systems from time to time – Crown Crates is an example of this.
I know I was a bad Khajiit and did contribute my (failed) findings to the spreadsheet, so my 70 crates of nothing aren't on that list. I'd consider buying more Crates so I can add my research to the list but ZOS needs to buy me dinner first.lordrichter wrote: »I am beginning to wonder if @Enodoc 's spreadsheet is being scammed. The drop rate for Apex mounts has increased dramatically over the last hour or so.
Earlier it had very few mounts listed even though the thread was full of people who were ( supposedly ) getting them. Will have to take it however we want I suppose.
gothickaiserub17_ESO wrote: »driosketch wrote: »gothickaiserub17_ESO wrote: »Quick question, I really only want the High-Collard Coin Bell Dress, can i junk for gems cosmetics/mounts i don't own or is it only duplicates and consumables that are junkable?
@gothickaiserub17_ESO only duplicates, which is automatic, and consumables.
lame, that's gonna up the min. crate purchases to guarantee it quite a bit. Honestly being able to junk anything you get reeeeally would be a nice feature to help people get what they want a little quicker, which i suppose is not the point of gambling crates at all! They are literally banking on people really wanting 1 specific item from them
Ah the penny drops
I have to say, I've just realised something. As far as I'm aware, ZOS have not once come out in defence of crates. That, to me, is admirable. So many companies go on a PR spree when they do this kind of thing, trying to convince customers that "we're just doing this for you guys - really" and similar rubbish, but credit where credit is due - ZOS doesn't seem to have tried to go full snake-oil salesman on this. I applaud that, their silence in defence of these things is great honesty.
Pathfinder wrote: »Looks like 50 crates is going to net you about 400 gems. So essentially, those 400 gem mounts are costing you 20,000 crowns. I dont have hard numbers, but I think I am pretty close.
I know it's too early to tell, but does this seem to be the current consensus? So for the price of 50 crates you can get the one item you want?
Assuming you bought 20K Crowns for $160 you should be able to get what you want?
100 GemsCelas_Dranacea wrote: »Can someone tell me how many gems the red pit wolf mount would cost to buy outright? That's the only thing I really need in life before I can pass away happily. Anxious to log in after my daughter is asleep tonight!
AzraelKrieg wrote: »15 CratesCrown Mimic
Crown Soul Gem
Jawbone Blades
Crown Soul Gem
Crown Fortifying Meal
Crown Warrior's Elixir (5)
Roostertail Frills
Crown Fortifying Meal
Azure Brow to Temple Circlet
Crown Mimic
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Hedge Wizard's Claw Cap
Crown Invisibility Potion (5)
Crown Repair Kit
Roostertail Frills
Crown XP Scroll
Crown Soul Gem
Jawbone Blades
Rosy Netch Calf
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion (5)
Crown Mimic
Shornhelm Shephard
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Crown XP Scroll
Crown Repair Kit
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Crown Invisibility Potion (5)
Soul Shriven Leather Outfit
Upright Antler Skullcap
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Crown Warrior's Elixir (5)
Upright Antler Skullcap
Crown Soul Gem
Shornhelm Shephard
Crown XP Scroll
Shadow Stripe Headwrap
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion (5)
Crown Soul Gem
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Crown Repair Kit
Crown Lethal Poison
Clever Man Wizard Hat
Helstrom Ancestor Lizard
Crown Invisibility Potion (5)
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Crown Invisibility Potion (5)
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion (5)
Chub Loon
Crown XP Scroll
Crown XP Scroll
Fibonaccus Spiral Hat
Crown Lesson: Speed
Crown Invisibility Potion (5)
Crown Warrior's Elixir (5)
Crown XP Scroll
Crown Fortifying Meal
Soul Shriven Armour
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion (5)
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Battlemage Scout Captain
Crown Mimic
Already had the Shornhelm Shephard pet before opening the crates.
katiesmith12341 wrote: »I also bought 10,000 crowns worth of crates and even though I got the atronach wolf mount which I really wanted, everything else I got was...well dissapointing.
I got some costumes (the only things i liked were the witches hat items.) I got the memento too but its are useless to me as I PVP.
and loads of consumables. You can get crown gems which are great! and then you can buy items with those, but you don't get that many at all by converting them.... its really mean.
£48 quid.
Not worth it in my opinion I won't be spending on these crates again
(also note with the witches hat things, if your an elf your ears are gonna cut through it. If your a graphic freak like me, it will annoy the hell out of you )
why cant you just buy crown gems individualy? also how many gems do u get for deconstructing the items you dont want from the crates?
Pathfinder wrote: »Looks like 50 crates is going to net you about 400 gems. So essentially, those 400 gem mounts are costing you 20,000 crowns. I dont have hard numbers, but I think I am pretty close.
I know it's too early to tell, but does this seem to be the current consensus? So for the price of 50 crates you can get the one item you want?
Assuming you bought 20K Crowns for $160 you should be able to get what you want?
The chances of not getting at least 1 Apex mount over 50 crates is very low. I would say the majority of people that would open that many would get already at least 1.
However the conversion rate does stink. I think 15 should give you enough gems for an apex item. Adding gems to crates would be a good idea.
snakester320 wrote: »Pathfinder wrote: »Looks like 50 crates is going to net you about 400 gems. So essentially, those 400 gem mounts are costing you 20,000 crowns. I dont have hard numbers, but I think I am pretty close.
I know it's too early to tell, but does this seem to be the current consensus? So for the price of 50 crates you can get the one item you want?
Assuming you bought 20K Crowns for $160 you should be able to get what you want?
The chances of not getting at least 1 Apex mount over 50 crates is very low. I would say the majority of people that would open that many would get already at least 1.
However the conversion rate does stink. I think 15 should give you enough gems for an apex item. Adding gems to crates would be a good idea.
So 50 crates equates to how many crowns to get a apex mount 15k crowns at $52 aud for 5000 crowns so $156 for one mount ... ppl are just stupid to pay that much for 1 mount.. while ZOS rubs there hands together ..let see if this translates to epic content there going to make you pay for as well ..lmfao
Thealteregoroman wrote: »ughhhh........guys for all the peeps that bought everything in the crown store before the creates came along is BENEFITTING from this hugely....
I am a completionist and I pretty much brought all things from crown store before the creates appeared.....because of that its fairly easy to get to 400 gems.
For those people that dropped cash in the crown store since the beginning, I feel like we are being rewarded in a sense.
I don't know this is just my perspective. Yea it is a lottery BUT I ALSO feel like I am being rewarded for supporting the game EVEN THOUGH I bought stuff I wouldn't use....
I def can see why the masses are upset. especially is you are a new player and just getting into ESO.
Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »AzraelKrieg wrote: »15 CratesCrown Mimic
Crown Soul Gem
Jawbone Blades
Crown Soul Gem
Crown Fortifying Meal
Crown Warrior's Elixir (5)
Roostertail Frills
Crown Fortifying Meal
Azure Brow to Temple Circlet
Crown Mimic
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Hedge Wizard's Claw Cap
Crown Invisibility Potion (5)
Crown Repair Kit
Roostertail Frills
Crown XP Scroll
Crown Soul Gem
Jawbone Blades
Rosy Netch Calf
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion (5)
Crown Mimic
Shornhelm Shephard
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Crown XP Scroll
Crown Repair Kit
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Crown Invisibility Potion (5)
Soul Shriven Leather Outfit
Upright Antler Skullcap
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Crown Warrior's Elixir (5)
Upright Antler Skullcap
Crown Soul Gem
Shornhelm Shephard
Crown XP Scroll
Shadow Stripe Headwrap
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion (5)
Crown Soul Gem
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Crown Repair Kit
Crown Lethal Poison
Clever Man Wizard Hat
Helstrom Ancestor Lizard
Crown Invisibility Potion (5)
Crown Survivor's Elixir (5)
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Crown Invisibility Potion (5)
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion (5)
Chub Loon
Crown XP Scroll
Crown XP Scroll
Fibonaccus Spiral Hat
Crown Lesson: Speed
Crown Invisibility Potion (5)
Crown Warrior's Elixir (5)
Crown XP Scroll
Crown Fortifying Meal
Soul Shriven Armour
Crown Tri-Restoration Potion (5)
Crown Spellcaster's Elixir (5)
Battlemage Scout Captain
Crown Mimic
Already had the Shornhelm Shephard pet before opening the crates.
That's a lot of garbage from your crates (sorry for your loss)...
Thealteregoroman wrote: »ughhhh........guys for all the peeps that bought everything in the crown store before the creates came along is BENEFITTING from this hugely....
I am a completionist and I pretty much brought all things from crown store before the creates appeared.....because of that its fairly easy to get to 400 gems.
For those people that dropped cash in the crown store since the beginning, I feel like we are being rewarded in a sense.
I don't know this is just my perspective. Yea it is a lottery BUT I ALSO feel like I am being rewarded for supporting the game EVEN THOUGH I bought stuff I wouldn't use....
I def can see why the masses are upset. especially is you are a new player and just getting into ESO.
I have to say, I've just realised something. As far as I'm aware, ZOS have not once come out in defence of crates. That, to me, is admirable. So many companies go on a PR spree when they do this kind of thing, trying to convince customers that "we're just doing this for you guys - really" and similar rubbish, but credit where credit is due - ZOS doesn't seem to have tried to go full snake-oil salesman on this. I applaud that, their silence in defence of these things is great honesty.
Ok, I had a look through the revision history and I'm inclined to agree with this. There have been numerous instances where only a collecible has been logged (not just the Apex mounts, but they're the most common), with no other cards being recorded for 5 minutes either side of that.I'll check the revision history in a bit (which will probably take a while) and see if there's anything particularly odd there.lordrichter wrote: »I believe in the honesty of ZOS to not do that considerably more than random people on the internet.driosketch wrote: »Or the drop rates are being tweaked on the back end to make the crates appear better up front while players try to gauge their value. We have no way of knowing.lordrichter wrote: »I am beginning to wonder if @Enodoc 's spreadsheet is being scammed. The drop rate for Apex mounts has increased dramatically over the last hour or so.
It is odd that other numbers are not being reflected. It might just be people cherry picking their results. Logging that they got a mount, but not logging everything else they get.
I have to say, I've just realised something. As far as I'm aware, ZOS have not once come out in defence of crates. That, to me, is admirable. So many companies go on a PR spree when they do this kind of thing, trying to convince customers that "we're just doing this for you guys - really" and similar rubbish, but credit where credit is due - ZOS doesn't seem to have tried to go full snake-oil salesman on this. I applaud that, their silence in defence of these things is great honesty.
I know it's naïve, but I hope at some point in the future a statement will be made along the lines of 'we didn't want to do this but the decision came from on high' or something to that effect.
Because I want to have faith in this company and the people in it. I guess that is stupid.