I hate nightblades

LegacyDM

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

LegacyDM wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Obviously I have put a ton of work into this character. Now I have like 40 more cp than you see in the screen shot. Do not tell me to learn to play or get better gear because you are seriously delusional if you think I need better gear. My weapons are sharpened purple swords (2h dw). I can't afford golden nor do I need golden for that matter. Let's face it though. You are going to die really fast and no matter how hard you try you will always be the worst class because you cannot take any incoming damage. Why do you think you see nightblades line of sighting every chance they get? Is it because they need to avoid damage? Why would I put that much pressure on my character when I can do the exact opposite and play a stam dk that can absorb a lot of damage and actually dish out a good amount of damage at the same time. I have 1 magicka sorcerer, and 1 magplar. I have been playing my magplar a lot more lately and I can personally tell you that a nightblade lacks A LOT of flexibility. There is so much stuff that a magplar can do that a nightblade wasn't designed for. To compare the 2 think about how batman is human and cannot do certain things and how superman can go anywhere and do anything.

L2p. Your post is riddled with l2p issues.

For example, You really expect to be as good as someone else when your only running purple? Gold gear does provide a big boost to gameplay.

Your a stamina nb. Get gold viper, eternal hunt, valedreth, and maelstrom two hander. learn to shuffle stack, dodge roll to infinity, LOS to adnuseium, and gank from stealth. There, your now a pro. Now go l2p.

I don't want to use proc sets because it is riddled with aids and I just told you that I use shuffle. You cannot roll dodge infinitely anymore. How are you going to even tell me to keep roll dodging when they nerfed that like 6 updates ago? I LOS but people always outmaneuver me, ganking from stealth doesn't work anymore. WHY do I need to make my weapons golden when I already have high weapon damage in the first place? I use to run with lower weapon damage but after I began running into people with heavy armor I decided I needed to start running different sets. I will never use proc sets. If you use proc sets in a duel then I have no respect for you and I disregard everything you just wrote.

Look. You can still dodge roll a lot. Get some well fitted gear. I know pro players who have no issues Los, dodge rolling, and keeping shuffle up. I've seen pro players go from little health to full health in 1 cast of momentum and vigor.

You need your weapons gold because everyone else has theres. Your losing like 200+ weapon damage. Seriously, without gold weapons your not being competitive. People are stacking resistances, heavy armor, and shields and your running around with purple?!

Unfortunately by not running proc sets your handicapping yourself. Most Everyone else is running proc sets. Your just beating your head against a wall because people are making builds to counter the damage output of proc sets. So what ever alternative build your using it will suffer even more.

Watch YouTube and twitch. Watch how people like scribes and xinthesis play. Go watch xinthesis cyrodil diaries in alliance war forums section.

Unfortunately it is a l2p. Don't believe the hype. This game is not play the way you want. There is such a thing as meta. Or if you want to buck the trend, then you need to be really skilled. I suggest you post your build so the forum experts and theory crafters can tell you how to improve rather than ventting while ordering some wine with cheese. Post your build and I'll try and help.

LegacyDM

Edziu wrote: »

LegacyDM wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Obviously I have put a ton of work into this character. Now I have like 40 more cp than you see in the screen shot. Do not tell me to learn to play or get better gear because you are seriously delusional if you think I need better gear. My weapons are sharpened purple swords (2h dw). I can't afford golden nor do I need golden for that matter. Let's face it though. You are going to die really fast and no matter how hard you try you will always be the worst class because you cannot take any incoming damage. Why do you think you see nightblades line of sighting every chance they get? Is it because they need to avoid damage? Why would I put that much pressure on my character when I can do the exact opposite and play a stam dk that can absorb a lot of damage and actually dish out a good amount of damage at the same time. I have 1 magicka sorcerer, and 1 magplar. I have been playing my magplar a lot more lately and I can personally tell you that a nightblade lacks A LOT of flexibility. There is so much stuff that a magplar can do that a nightblade wasn't designed for. To compare the 2 think about how batman is human and cannot do certain things and how superman can go anywhere and do anything.

L2p. Your post is riddled with l2p issues.

For example, You really expect to be as good as someone else when your only running purple? Gold gear does provide a big boost to gameplay.

Your a stamina nb. Get gold viper, eternal hunt, valedreth, and maelstrom two hander. learn to shuffle stack, dodge roll to infinity, LOS to adnuseium, and gank from stealth. There, your now a pro. Now go l2p.

and here you have problem...I guess you have problem with l2p because you are running with stacked shuffle, proc sets etc and just saying other people with problem "l2p" because they are dont using noskill required proc sets etc?

and look here with this heavy armor meta...NB without viper and monster proc set...nb without those sets is just *** *** easy free ap for no-skill-required sets wearers.

and next thing...tell me...how to play while your full burst from glass cannon nb into any heavy armor scrub can be easy mitigated without any bigger problem and very fast healed when then this tankly scrub will hit those 4 times into this nb and ehh...nb just get rekt by tankly scrub with damage not much lower than glass cannon build.

why *** heavy armor wearers have only a bit lower damage than medium/light armor weares who have no any damn good survivability by taking raw damage, you need only 2-4 hits to kill this medium/light armor, with combo this is only split second (also by heavy armor...yes any with heavy armor can hit hard) while to kill heavy armor (mosly *** perm blockers) you need to hit 6-8-10+ hits to kill him..but nah...he will heal 80% of missing health in 2-3 seconds as templar/dk and again

(sorc ofc is only viable class to go with light armor or nb...sorc just becaus eof shield stack..if not this sorc will be also forced to run with *** heavy armor because he wont have much lower damage, similiar nb but he have not working in 75% of the time cloak.
and to medium armor...only nb have chance to use medium armor to going in steath etc but thanks medium armor need only those 4 hits to die by any other class in *** annyoing heavy armor)


at all nb without proc sets = free squishy ap for everyone other because without proc sets nb have no any chance to kill anything on pvp, thank you!

I'm sorry I don't know what your trying to say. Something about proc sets don't require skill? And without them, nb don't stand a chance? Your right. if this guy wants to win he either has to be skilled using a non proc set or use the proc sets. Since he's not using the proc sets and he's losing, he must not be skilled, which goes back to my original comment of L2P. If he's trying to make a statement that there is no way to win without using proc sets than write a constructive post about imbalance or he should just use the proc sets and stop torturing himself.

SlowMetabolism

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

Obviously I have put a ton of work into this character. Now I have like 40 more cp than you see in the screen shot. Do not tell me to learn to play or get better gear because you are seriously delusional if you think I need better gear. My weapons are sharpened purple swords (2h dw). I can't afford golden nor do I need golden for that matter. Let's face it though. You are going to die really fast and no matter how hard you try you will always be the worst class because you cannot take any incoming damage. Why do you think you see nightblades line of sighting every chance they get? Is it because they need to avoid damage? Why would I put that much pressure on my character when I can do the exact opposite and play a stam dk that can absorb a lot of damage and actually dish out a good amount of damage at the same time. I have 1 magicka sorcerer, and 1 magplar. I have been playing my magplar a lot more lately and I can personally tell you that a nightblade lacks A LOT of flexibility. There is so much stuff that a magplar can do that a nightblade wasn't designed for. To compare the 2 think about how batman is human and cannot do certain things and how superman can go anywhere and do anything.

As someone who refuses to run heavy armor I run 5 medium 2 heavy, get a little extra health puts me at about 23k in PvP without anything invested into health. Would also invest in more sustain over that ridiculous damage. And it is almost a must to have gold weps it is a huge difference in damage. Gold weps>Gold gear. Also if someone Line of sights me in a 1 on 1 situation dont follow. Sit and emote well away from the tree until they come to you or walk away.

AzuraKin

how to take down a tank, join a group, bebuff the *** out of his resistance, watch him go splat.

SilentBoomstick

AzuraKin wrote: »

your talk about 1v1 which is pvp. what is your penetration? penetration is critical to quickly killing targets. also i can tell from the damage numbers you are running alchemist, prossibly kena too. also 2nd wrecking blow from stealth can even be more impressive then teleport strike by nearly 50% more damage.

I have sharpened weapons and about 40 cp into armor penetration so there's also that. Oh and I just started uses a 2h and bow. I used to use that setup but I got tired of it because I needed poison injection and I really needed executioner.

SilentBoomstick

Darnathian wrote: »

If u dont think that you need golden weapons then it is a l2p. Get those. Armor u can get away with purple

I use to use far less weapon damage than you see in my stats. I use to have like 3.8k weapon damage but it was so viable and I didn't feel that I needed to use anything else. Now look, I'm running much higher weapon damage but because of this heavy armor meta it is not really that OP. I get it. I have to use proc sets in order to conform to a meta. Why do we have to all use the same exact freaking build as your fellow cancer build in order to compete? What happened to like 5 updates ago when this game was just crafted sets and there was no meta?

SilentBoomstick

bowmanz607 wrote: »

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Ummm ganuking is 100% viable. Are you kidding me? Especially as a nb. In fact gawking has reached a an all new high with the new sets, but you definitely don't need them. Didn't you have another thread about nb? Seems like you don't think nb can do anything. Yet here I am logging on every day destroying people. Heck, just respected my boomer stam blade to mag for fun. I'm not even a mag race and still destroy people.

I really don't think nb is your playstyle man. Especially if you think gawking does not work.

Also, try the set that reduces 4k resist. Will help you against heavy armor and is not a proc set. Really is the go to set for Stam these days.

Also, don't get viper, vel, tremor proc sets that re over doing it right now with good proc sets such as bloodspawn. Heck, just about every monster piece is a proc set. Was well before the cimplants now. In fact, use bloods pawn for your aurvivability. Heck use that skeleton 2 pc set.

As you just stated I think heavy armor is the biggest problem. I don't see any point in using the spriggan set when the next update I can put another 10 cp into piercing (50 points total) with a maul that is sharpened.

SilentBoomstick

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Hmm no offence OP, but it is a case of l2p, I have a few stam build nbs, and have little to no problem killing people.

And this is not even using proc sets, which makes kills even more laughably easy.

No offence, but l2p.

I die a lot. Templars purge poison injection, they're heals are miraculous, and they can also purge my incap and my poisons, plus they can also tank. Dragonknights are impossible for me to kill. They have a lot of debuffs and since I can't cleanse their dots and try to heal through them, I die because of it. I basically have to not take damage or I will die. If I take about 5 hits I will die and I cannot defend myself against them. I'm not worried about magicka but stamina sorcerers really get under my skin. I don't like using cloak in duels because it is a big no no and these guys are almost equivalent to dragonknights because they have a lot of buffs. I know you don't think wrecking blow is a lot of burst but it's also things like hurricane. You can't tell me to not stand in their hurricane if it snares me and they won't get out of my face. I've been hit by that ability for up to 9k so it is very powerful. Throughout every update I think nightblade is the most balanced class because they are not overpowered and they are not underpowered. They are just right in between.

My point is every other class has a built in survival tactic that allows them to stay alive and be flexible whilst a nightblade just dies in 4 hits once you catch them.

SilentBoomstick

AzuraKin wrote: »

your talk about 1v1 which is pvp. what is your penetration? penetration is critical to quickly killing targets. also i can tell from the damage numbers you are running alchemist, prossibly kena too. also 2nd wrecking blow from stealth can even be more impressive then teleport strike by nearly 50% more damage.

No. I am only using 5 alchemist 4 on body one on sword and 5 hundings rage. I don't see the point in using molag keena because it offers no sustain and it makes no sense to hit people with only 2 light attacks before you go in for the kill as a ganker.

Xvorg

I'd change DW to S/B and try this combo:

Shield charge + power extraction + SA. You can weave SA to get ulti quite faster.

You can use a defensive set like ward of cyro combined with a more ofensive set, like automaton if you don't want to get a HA set.

I'm planning to change my stamblade from DW to S/B

SilentBoomstick

LegacyDM wrote: »

Look. You can still dodge roll a lot. Get some well fitted gear. I know pro players who have no issues Los, dodge rolling, and keeping shuffle up. I've seen pro players go from little health to full health in 1 cast of momentum and vigor.

You need your weapons gold because everyone else has theres. Your losing like 200+ weapon damage. Seriously, without gold weapons your not being competitive. People are stacking resistances, heavy armor, and shields and your running around with purple?!

Unfortunately by not running proc sets your handicapping yourself. Most Everyone else is running proc sets. Your just beating your head against a wall because people are making builds to counter the damage output of proc sets. So what ever alternative build your using it will suffer even more.

Watch YouTube and twitch. Watch how people like scribes and xinthesis play. Go watch xinthesis cyrodil diaries in alliance war forums section.

Unfortunately it is a l2p. Don't believe the hype. This game is not play the way you want. There is such a thing as meta. Or if you want to buck the trend, then you need to be really skilled. I suggest you post your build so the forum experts and theory crafters can tell you how to improve rather than ventting while ordering some wine with cheese. Post your build and I'll try and help.

It is not a l2p. It is a fact that my heals suck. I am missing out on 200 weapon damage? Oh so you are going to tell me that I need to have more weapon damage? Who are you to tell me that I need more weapon damage when it's already high?

You telling me to use proc sets makes no sense. We need to do the exact opposite and not use proc sets, mk? You aren't supposed to dodge roll and how are you going to tell me to keep shuffle up when I keep it up all the time? I hate this ability with a burning passion because I always see other people get lucky by watching it proc 80% of the time whilst it never seems to work for me. I am not referring to ganking in this thread. I am referring to the fact that this is the worst class to duel people in. There's too many variables that goes against a nightblade in order for a nightblade to win a fight. I don't know whose idea it was when they designed all 4 of the classes to call it "balance".

newtinmpls

And here I thought you were going to rage about how it's hard to do IC without getting ganked every five min .....

SHADOW2KK

newtinmpls wrote: »

And here I thought you were going to rage about how it's hard to do IC without getting ganked every five min .....

IC hard?

Know the enviroment and how to play, you could go from one end of the sewers or top side to the other and kill at will.

SilentBoomstick

newtinmpls wrote: »

And here I thought you were going to rage about how it's hard to do IC without getting ganked every five min .....

I don't even care about that. I farm that place all day and never run into anybody there because that DLC officially died about 4 months ago.

kadar

I'm running ~3500 weapon damage on my Stamina NB. That's seems to be plenty to kill people even without on damage proc sets.

If it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, and everyone commenting on your thread says it's a duck, It's probably a L2P issue.

Sandman929

Looking at the stats, I'd have to guess that "I can't kill anyone" is a bit of an exaggeration. More likely is that you expect to kill everyone, and can't.

kadar

Sandman929 wrote: »

Looking at the stats, I'd have to guess that "I can't kill anyone" is a bit of an exaggeration. More likely is that you expect to kill everyone, and can't.

Well he's a total glass cannon, so if someone does survive his burst they can just turn around and spank him to death. It's...exactly what should happen, imo.

Sandman929

The_Outsider wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Looking at the stats, I'd have to guess that "I can't kill anyone" is a bit of an exaggeration. More likely is that you expect to kill everyone, and can't.

Well he's a total glass cannon, so if someone does survive his burst they can just turn around and spank him to death. It's...exactly what should happen, imo.

Agreed.

SneaK

I just try not to attack people that are sword and board... Also when solo I prefer 2H/Bow over DW/2H, seems easier to disengage.

Kutsuu

Gold weapons on DW add about 260 raw weapon damage, BEFORE the 12% from medium or 20% from brutality. That's about as much damage from a full 3-piece agility set just sitting there unclaimed. You should be able to earn 16 tempers (not buy them) in a reasonable amount of time by clicking rocks and doing surveys.

As far as who I don't attack when I'm ganking - I don't attack radiant magelight users unless they have less than 24k health. I don't attack obvious tank players (1h/shield and heavy) if they have over ~32k health. Everyone else drops, especially all these black rose heavy armor users with 22-25k health who aren't running radiant magelight. Very easy pickings.

Sureshawt

Darnathian wrote: »

If u dont think that you need golden weapons then it is a l2p. Get those. Armor u can get away with purple

^This

...and whether you choose to accept it or not the rest of your issues are learn to play.

kadar

Kutsuu wrote: »

Gold weapons on DW add about 260 raw weapon damage, BEFORE the 12% from medium or 20% from brutality. That's about as much damage from a full 3-piece agility set just sitting there unclaimed. You should be able to earn 16 tempers (not buy them) in a reasonable amount of time by clicking rocks and doing surveys.

As far as who I don't attack when I'm ganking - I don't attack radiant magelight users unless they have less than 24k health. I don't attack obvious tank players (1h/shield and heavy) if they have over ~32k health. Everyone else drops, especially all these black rose heavy armor users with 22-25k health who aren't running radiant magelight. Very easy pickings.

Was gonna type a comment dripping with sarcasm about how you actually need to pick targets instead of randomly attacking everything you see... Instead you get +1 Agree.

Kutsuu

The_Outsider wrote: »

Kutsuu wrote: »

Gold weapons on DW add about 260 raw weapon damage, BEFORE the 12% from medium or 20% from brutality. That's about as much damage from a full 3-piece agility set just sitting there unclaimed. You should be able to earn 16 tempers (not buy them) in a reasonable amount of time by clicking rocks and doing surveys.

As far as who I don't attack when I'm ganking - I don't attack radiant magelight users unless they have less than 24k health. I don't attack obvious tank players (1h/shield and heavy) if they have over ~32k health. Everyone else drops, especially all these black rose heavy armor users with 22-25k health who aren't running radiant magelight. Very easy pickings.

Was gonna type a comment dripping with sarcasm about how you actually need to pick targets instead of randomly attacking everything you see... Instead you get +1 Agree.

Heh they see these ganking video montages with only successful kills and think you just go out there and melt anything you see. In previous games (DAOC especially), there were entire ARCHETYPES of classes that I would never mess with on my assassin - I could do a full on crit opener against some classes and end up dead with them at 80% health (but they would get wrecked by the caster that I could 2-shot). I have a lot more viable targets in this game since I only avoid people with certain buffs or health, and 90% of players are glass cannon superstars following some min/maxed streamer build.

There's also situational awareness and positioning that come into account that makes the difference between a ganker who hits "release" a lot and the ganker who never seems to die and people are always hunting for.

OP thinks NB is weak because of his lack of success. This is a problem with so many people, in RL and in games. Always blame it on something else before looking inward first.

Jaronking

I see your problem OP your a glass cannon build with no sustained and just high damage you chased after numbers not a balanced build which you need for.Dueling.First you need armor pen try to get spriggins run that jewelry and weapons and you will do fine with sharp weapons and surprise attack your already taking 10k armor from your opponent .Your just a waste with that much weapon damage.

I played Stamblade since console release I play Xbox I still do well on my NB.I have to run heavy to survive proc sets and with cloak being broken I have to run heavy to out heal dots and survive now.Its hard especially compare to other classes in sustain wise and just straight DPS.my StamDk never run out of resources in heavy or medium.My stam sorc dark deal is amazing and I never run out if stam.NB resources management sucks but we can't get buffs to fix our broken skills because it would just make gank blades stronger.

I'll never will use a proc set but I'll.run Bloodspawn and heavy till they Nerf this cancer.

LegacyDM

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

LegacyDM wrote: »

Look. You can still dodge roll a lot. Get some well fitted gear. I know pro players who have no issues Los, dodge rolling, and keeping shuffle up. I've seen pro players go from little health to full health in 1 cast of momentum and vigor.

You need your weapons gold because everyone else has theres. Your losing like 200+ weapon damage. Seriously, without gold weapons your not being competitive. People are stacking resistances, heavy armor, and shields and your running around with purple?!

Unfortunately by not running proc sets your handicapping yourself. Most Everyone else is running proc sets. Your just beating your head against a wall because people are making builds to counter the damage output of proc sets. So what ever alternative build your using it will suffer even more.

Watch YouTube and twitch. Watch how people like scribes and xinthesis play. Go watch xinthesis cyrodil diaries in alliance war forums section.

Unfortunately it is a l2p. Don't believe the hype. This game is not play the way you want. There is such a thing as meta. Or if you want to buck the trend, then you need to be really skilled. I suggest you post your build so the forum experts and theory crafters can tell you how to improve rather than ventting while ordering some wine with cheese. Post your build and I'll try and help.

It is not a l2p. It is a fact that my heals suck. I am missing out on 200 weapon damage? Oh so you are going to tell me that I need to have more weapon damage? Who are you to tell me that I need more weapon damage when it's already high?

You telling me to use proc sets makes no sense. We need to do the exact opposite and not use proc sets, mk? You aren't supposed to dodge roll and how are you going to tell me to keep shuffle up when I keep it up all the time? I hate this ability with a burning passion because I always see other people get lucky by watching it proc 80% of the time whilst it never seems to work for me. I am not referring to ganking in this thread. I am referring to the fact that this is the worst class to duel people in. There's too many variables that goes against a nightblade in order for a nightblade to win a fight. I don't know whose idea it was when they designed all 4 of the classes to call it "balance".

You can lead a horse to water but can't force it to drink.

260 damage with multipliers is not insignificant. You need to learn to accept the fact that the goal of this game is to achieve the best build possible with the highest stats. If your too stubborn to accept that, when everyone else maxes their characters your always going to be behind the curve. You'll have to make up the difference with skill. If you can't, it's a l2p issue.

If shuffle is working for 80% for everyone else but you, your doing something wrong. It's not like there is some divine being punishing you with bad luck compared to 80% of the rest.

Why would you run a high damage glass canon build but not use it to gank? Why do you only have 40 cp in armor pen? Do you realize the average population is running 20k armor? Many are running 30k. Do you understand the math? Do you know how much pen you need to = 11% more damage?

Anyways, Why would you run a glass canon build in duels? What makes a high damage glass canon effective in cyrodil is the ability to sprint away, Los, and gank from stealth. Accept the fact, your not built for duels with your build. Or maybe you just need more skill. I'll say it again, l2p.

AzuraKin

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

LegacyDM wrote: »

Look. You can still dodge roll a lot. Get some well fitted gear. I know pro players who have no issues Los, dodge rolling, and keeping shuffle up. I've seen pro players go from little health to full health in 1 cast of momentum and vigor.

You need your weapons gold because everyone else has theres. Your losing like 200+ weapon damage. Seriously, without gold weapons your not being competitive. People are stacking resistances, heavy armor, and shields and your running around with purple?!

Unfortunately by not running proc sets your handicapping yourself. Most Everyone else is running proc sets. Your just beating your head against a wall because people are making builds to counter the damage output of proc sets. So what ever alternative build your using it will suffer even more.

Watch YouTube and twitch. Watch how people like scribes and xinthesis play. Go watch xinthesis cyrodil diaries in alliance war forums section.

Unfortunately it is a l2p. Don't believe the hype. This game is not play the way you want. There is such a thing as meta. Or if you want to buck the trend, then you need to be really skilled. I suggest you post your build so the forum experts and theory crafters can tell you how to improve rather than ventting while ordering some wine with cheese. Post your build and I'll try and help.

It is not a l2p. It is a fact that my heals suck. I am missing out on 200 weapon damage? Oh so you are going to tell me that I need to have more weapon damage? Who are you to tell me that I need more weapon damage when it's already high?

You telling me to use proc sets makes no sense. We need to do the exact opposite and not use proc sets, mk? You aren't supposed to dodge roll and how are you going to tell me to keep shuffle up when I keep it up all the time? I hate this ability with a burning passion because I always see other people get lucky by watching it proc 80% of the time whilst it never seems to work for me. I am not referring to ganking in this thread. I am referring to the fact that this is the worst class to duel people in. There's too many variables that goes against a nightblade in order for a nightblade to win a fight. I don't know whose idea it was when they designed all 4 of the classes to call it "balance".

not every class is created equal dude, nb's suck at dueling yes because they are designed for stealth (stam) and hybrid builds (magicka).

thedude33

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Hmm no offence OP, but it is a case of l2p, I have a few stam build nbs, and have little to no problem killing people.

And this is not even using proc sets, which makes kills even more laughably easy.

No offence, but l2p.

. I don't like using cloak in duels because it is a big no no.... .

Disclaimer: I am still very new to this game, but this statement confuses me. Why is using stealth a big no no in a duel? Is your build not an assassin style build? A first strike build that benefits greatly from stealth attacks? It is pretty much a class defining skill that you have built around.

Edziu

thedude33 wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Hmm no offence OP, but it is a case of l2p, I have a few stam build nbs, and have little to no problem killing people.

And this is not even using proc sets, which makes kills even more laughably easy.

No offence, but l2p.

. I don't like using cloak in duels because it is a big no no.... .

Disclaimer: I am still very new to this game, but this statement confuses me. Why is using stealth a big no no in a duel? Is your build not an assassin style build? A first strike build that benefits greatly from stealth attacks? It is pretty much a class defining skill that you have built around.

at all cloak is still very broken and still its rarely working good, in destription should write:
"Cloak yourself in shadow to get chance become invisible for 2.5 seconds."

AzuraKin

Edziu wrote: »

thedude33 wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Hmm no offence OP, but it is a case of l2p, I have a few stam build nbs, and have little to no problem killing people.

And this is not even using proc sets, which makes kills even more laughably easy.

No offence, but l2p.

. I don't like using cloak in duels because it is a big no no.... .

Disclaimer: I am still very new to this game, but this statement confuses me. Why is using stealth a big no no in a duel? Is your build not an assassin style build? A first strike build that benefits greatly from stealth attacks? It is pretty much a class defining skill that you have built around.

at all cloak is still very broken and still its rarely working good, in destription should write:
"Cloak yourself in shadow to get chance become invisible for 2.5 seconds."

dude that would be the same as taking the delete hammer to the nightblade class in pvp. on top of that cloak is so *** easy to counter. you just gotta learn 2 play.

Edziu

AzuraKin wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

thedude33 wrote: »

SilentBoomstick wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Hmm no offence OP, but it is a case of l2p, I have a few stam build nbs, and have little to no problem killing people.

And this is not even using proc sets, which makes kills even more laughably easy.

No offence, but l2p.

. I don't like using cloak in duels because it is a big no no.... .

Disclaimer: I am still very new to this game, but this statement confuses me. Why is using stealth a big no no in a duel? Is your build not an assassin style build? A first strike build that benefits greatly from stealth attacks? It is pretty much a class defining skill that you have built around.

at all cloak is still very broken and still its rarely working good, in destription should write:
"Cloak yourself in shadow to get chance become invisible for 2.5 seconds."

dude that would be the same as taking the delete hammer to the nightblade class in pvp. on top of that cloak is so *** easy to counter. you just gotta learn 2 play.

how about a lot of skills/potions/poison which will prevent you to use any damage shield on sorc, or purify on templar?

EDIT: oh and forgout about just much skills are broking cloak because just of bug, not working as intendeeed, can I have a dot which in time of working will prevent you of use any your defensive shields etc? or maybe gap closer, ambush which will instantly remove your all stacked shields like this removing you from cloak after casted it and used cloak