Regenerator~ Health recovery / High dmg burst PVP build (One Tamriel)

duuude9192b14_ESO

https://youtu.be/wxXnwhJK9bE[/yt]

5 heavy / 2 medium armor, high health recovery, high dmg.

TRY ON ANY CLASS. Just tweak as needed.

Attributes: 64 into stamina

Enchants: weapon damage on jewelry, stamina on armor/shield, disease on weapons

Recommended Races: Khajiit, Orc, Nord

Mundus: Shadow

Sets: 2 Troll king, 5 Orgnum's Scales, 5 Viper (All impen traits on armor/shield)

Recommended Food buffs: Blue max stam and health, Yellow orzhoga's bear haunch

Sword n Board on front bar (defending trait) / Dual Wield on back bar (2 sharpened daggers)

Xinthisis

Nice stuff man.

OdinForge

Catrick Scott & Meow Mik's, amazing.

That's a really cool build, I knew you'd go for that troll king set. And the synergy with Orgnum is fantastic. I wanna see this in full action, get a video up!

The_Legendary_Arya

Really nice update, always liked your vids. A question tho, did you test if Orgnums is still better than the new Beekeepers Set? Sure, the Synergy between Orgnum+Troll king is amazing, but im not sure about that.
Its not to criticise your build, just to know if you have tested it.

ZOS_PeterT

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Sandman929

Love your Regenerator builds and this looks like the most impressive yet.

Rune_Relic

Nice build.
For a minute I thought it was going to be the same as mine.
But I went the tank route instead of dps.
4k+ health regen 2k+ stam regen
At 4k+ you become very difficult to kill....especially when you pop a cloak + pot on top of that.

_Chaos

ZOS_PeterT wrote: »

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are you bored or what?

timidobserver

Nice build. You pretty much have to be oneshot to die.

duuude9192b14_ESO

@Xinthisis Hey thanks man, glad to see you back. It's been awhile.

@OdinForge Thanks Lone, I'll get one up with the quickness... cat-like quickness. #cheesypuns

philip-sanderneb18_ESO wrote: »

Really nice update, always liked your vids. A question tho, did you test if Orgnums is still better than the new Beekeepers Set? Sure, the Synergy between Orgnum+Troll king is amazing, but im not sure about that.
Its not to criticise your build, just to know if you have tested it.

Good question, yes I did test this theory out. You get more max health recovery AND more max health with the orgnum's combo. No criticism taken, questions like these are most necessary to improve builds and playstyles.

@Sandman929 Thank you for your support.

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Nice build.
For a minute I thought it was going to be the same as mine.
But I went the tank route instead of dps.
4k+ health regen 2k+ stam regen
At 4k+ you become very difficult to kill....especially when you pop a cloak + pot on top of that.

hehe if you watched the video, I hit over 4k health regen xD

@_Chaos hehe I shouldn't have double posted. I'm lucky both posts didn't get removed.

timidobserver wrote: »

Nice build. You pretty much have to be oneshot to die.

For most fights, this is the truth. Thanks for watching

Soris

buff dragonblood

Nestor

I have been thinking about a Regen Build after seeing the Beekeeper stuff, but this is certainly a better way to go.

frozywozy

well maybe I can find some use to my 5pc Orgnum's Scales all gold that I barely used last patch because they nerfed health recovery from 30% to 20% on race passives. Supposedly there were too many health recovery tanks out there.

raasdal

Nice build. I am running HP regen build myself in no CP where HP regen is really strong.

Am going to test out Troll King myself when i get it in heavy. But my main concern is this;

The strength of HP regen is that it ticks from the very second you get hit on your HP bar. Usually, if anyone gets me below 50% HP it is because i am outnumbered. The times that i die, will ve because i get bursted down for my last 50% within 1-3 seconds. So it would not really matter if i had a proc from troll king or not. In your build this would be even more outspoken as you only have 1k regen unbuffed (from sets). You never just get bursted from 60% to 0% before you can get benefit of the proc?

A suggestion from one HP regen lover to another; Try a StamSorc. They are like made for that ***

Sandman929

raasdal wrote: »

Nice build. I am running HP regen build myself in no CP where HP regen is really strong.

Am going to test out Troll King myself when i get it in heavy. But my main concern is this;

The strength of HP regen is that it ticks from the very second you get hit on your HP bar. Usually, if anyone gets me below 50% HP it is because i am outnumbered. The times that i die, will ve because i get bursted down for my last 50% within 1-3 seconds. So it would not really matter if i had a proc from troll king or not. In your build this would be even more outspoken as you only have 1k regen unbuffed (from sets). You never just get bursted from 60% to 0% before you can get benefit of the proc?

A suggestion from one HP regen lover to another; Try a StamSorc. They are like made for that ***

I'm going to try this general idea on a Blazing Shield Templar; Orgnums, Plague Doctor and Troll King. A Templar can buff quite a few people's health regen if they drop below 60% and are within the fairly generous radius of Extended Ritual. And 4K health regen under a shield that's exploding might be interesting.

GreenSoup2HoT

Dont you love how you can just throw on Viper and be provided burst regardless of build?

Wtb proc sets that scale off weapon damage and crit chance. Then only glass builds will be provided the burst which should be warrented as they are glass.

duuude9192b14_ESO

@Soris I agree, wholeheartedly.

@Nestor Thanks for watching

@frozywozy I feel you. Was a confusing nerf indeed. Happy they brought in the troll king set to make it up

raasdal wrote: »

Nice build. I am running HP regen build myself in no CP where HP regen is really strong.

Am going to test out Troll King myself when i get it in heavy. But my main concern is this;

The strength of HP regen is that it ticks from the very second you get hit on your HP bar. Usually, if anyone gets me below 50% HP it is because i am outnumbered. The times that i die, will ve because i get bursted down for my last 50% within 1-3 seconds. So it would not really matter if i had a proc from troll king or not. In your build this would be even more outspoken as you only have 1k regen unbuffed (from sets). You never just get bursted from 60% to 0% before you can get benefit of the proc?

A suggestion from one HP regen lover to another; Try a StamSorc. They are like made for that ***

Trust me, I don't have that problem. Getting bursted from 28k to 0 health instantly is quite rare if you have a good grasp on your surroundings. I've tried StamSorc, I like NB currently more for my build, it's much stronger. The beauty of strong resilience at below 60% health, is that most enemy players take that as a sign to go all in on offense. Most times you'll see radiant destructions start showing up, melee users start going into a frenzy, and soon you've got a whole group of enemies expending way more resources than they should, to try and take you down because they think they have you on the ropes. But then your health doesn't budge, or it rubber bands back to full. You'll notice your enemies start to get frustrated and push harder, they become easy to topple over with burst combos, leaving themselves wide open, thinking they had you in their eager attempts. Try it out

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Dont you love how you can just throw on Viper and be provided burst regardless of build?

Wtb proc sets that scale off weapon damage and crit chance. Then only glass builds will be provided the burst which should be warrented as they are glass.

@GreenSoup2HoT Wait, are you saying that 5k dmg from a viper proc, somehow gave me 25k hit points worth of burst? Because as I demonstrate at the end of the video, that's how much burst I have. Yes, it's a very good set, that's why I use it. But equipping it, did not provide my entire build with a means to do dmg. I stack everything I have into crit chance, crit dmg, max stam, and wep dmg, only getting health recovery from two sets. Take viper away and I could still hit a 20k burst combo, putting most players into execute range. But why not use the obvious best choice in slot? why not use gold glyphs instead of purple? why not upgrade my weapons to legendary instead of leaving them epic quality? Hyperbole has it's place, but give me a break will ya? Viper didn't make this build, I did.

GreenSoup2HoT

duuude9192b14_ESO wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT Wait, are you saying that 5k dmg from a viper proc, somehow gave me 25k hit points worth of burst? Because as I demonstrate at the end of the video, that's how much burst I have. Yes, it's a very good set, that's why I use it. But equipping it, did not provide my entire build with a means to do dmg. I stack everything I have into crit chance, crit dmg, max stam, and wep dmg, only getting health recovery from two sets. Take viper away and I could still hit a 20k burst combo, putting most players into execute range. But why not use the obvious best choice in slot? why not use gold glyphs instead of purple? why not upgrade my weapons to legendary instead of leaving them epic quality? Hyperbole has it's place, but give me a break will ya? Viper didn't make this build, I did.

I did by no means try to insult you or your build. I was just pointing out a flaw i believe this set has and its ability to give any build burst. I respect the fact you use a hp regen build. Something that i think is pretty cool honestly. Much love -Soup

duuude9192b14_ESO

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

duuude9192b14_ESO wrote: »

@GreenSoup2HoT Wait, are you saying that 5k dmg from a viper proc, somehow gave me 25k hit points worth of burst? Because as I demonstrate at the end of the video, that's how much burst I have. Yes, it's a very good set, that's why I use it. But equipping it, did not provide my entire build with a means to do dmg. I stack everything I have into crit chance, crit dmg, max stam, and wep dmg, only getting health recovery from two sets. Take viper away and I could still hit a 20k burst combo, putting most players into execute range. But why not use the obvious best choice in slot? why not use gold glyphs instead of purple? why not upgrade my weapons to legendary instead of leaving them epic quality? Hyperbole has it's place, but give me a break will ya? Viper didn't make this build, I did.

I did by no means try to insult you or your build. I was just pointing out a flaw i believe this set has and its ability to give any build burst. I respect the fact you use a hp regen build. Something that i think is pretty cool honestly. Much love -Soup

Fair enough friend

NBrookus

Sandman929 wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

Nice build. I am running HP regen build myself in no CP where HP regen is really strong.

Am going to test out Troll King myself when i get it in heavy. But my main concern is this;

The strength of HP regen is that it ticks from the very second you get hit on your HP bar. Usually, if anyone gets me below 50% HP it is because i am outnumbered. The times that i die, will ve because i get bursted down for my last 50% within 1-3 seconds. So it would not really matter if i had a proc from troll king or not. In your build this would be even more outspoken as you only have 1k regen unbuffed (from sets). You never just get bursted from 60% to 0% before you can get benefit of the proc?

A suggestion from one HP regen lover to another; Try a StamSorc. They are like made for that ***

I'm going to try this general idea on a Blazing Shield Templar; Orgnums, Plague Doctor and Troll King. A Templar can buff quite a few people's health regen if they drop below 60% and are within the fairly generous radius of Extended Ritual. And 4K health regen under a shield that's exploding might be interesting.

I already tried it. Shield damage was poor. As a dedicated tank for a group that isn't expect to do damage and also buffs everyone, it would work well. Field tested, I could tank a lot of damage, but hardly killed anyone. Granted I didn't gold it out or have good helm traits.

Switched to a magic oriented templar build, and without the khajit passives and quite so many CPs in health recovery, regen was 2400 (vamp) during the proc. Played with Willpower/Torugs, Syrabane, Vicious Death, etc. Damage was lackluster with a mag recovery in the 1100s. I did not try it in Cyro; it didn't seem worth the tradeoffs.

I thought of trying Troll King/Orgnums on my mDK with Silks of the Sun, but feel it would either be missing sufficient regen or damage or both. I may try just Troll King as a way to buff up those mDK heals.

Alucardo

Nice looking build. Wish you had of shown us the health recovery in action though!
And I see what you did there, Catrick Scott huehue

Cathexis

ohhh boy here we go ^_^ i thought health regen might be working again, and ive been itching to get back to werewolf.

RyuHyabusa427

Would an Stamn dk work with this?

Brrrofski

I know you won't answer questions like "will this work with black rose" but what about race? Really want to try this on a Stam sorc which is redguard. How does that 20% from orc/khajit work? Before or after sets?

Second question, do you need ogrim scales on both bars? Could I run 3 on the body then just have it on one bar (vigor bar) to proc it then swap to dps bar and get the benefits of it.

raasdal

Brrrofski wrote: »

I know you won't answer questions like "will this work with black rose" but what about race? Really want to try this on a Stam sorc which is redguard. How does that 20% from orc/khajit work? Before or after sets?

Second question, do you need ogrim scales on both bars? Could I run 3 on the body then just have it on one bar (vigor bar) to proc it then swap to dps bar and get the benefits of it.

Troll King adds to your base stat. So it gets boosted by all percentagebased increases, such as Class Passives, Racial Passives etc. My StamSorc har 68% HP increase, so would get 2500 regen from Troll King - not just 1500.

I have not personally tested Orgnum, but it should stack additively with your other percentagebased increases, according to normal engine procedure of ESO.

Yes, you need Orgnums 5 piece bonus active all time, to get the bonus. It is not a proc that has a cooldown. It is only active, if your 5 piece bonus is active.

CapuchinSeven

I'd considered a build like this but then remembered I don't have full traits in my heavy armour so couldn't make Orgum's for sometime. Might have to get it made.

One thing you might consider is Vampire for the low health damage resist?

Brutusmax1mus

Orgnums only buffs base health regen. Surely you would be better off buying with bee keeper right?

Sandman929

NBrookus wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

Nice build. I am running HP regen build myself in no CP where HP regen is really strong.

Am going to test out Troll King myself when i get it in heavy. But my main concern is this;

The strength of HP regen is that it ticks from the very second you get hit on your HP bar. Usually, if anyone gets me below 50% HP it is because i am outnumbered. The times that i die, will ve because i get bursted down for my last 50% within 1-3 seconds. So it would not really matter if i had a proc from troll king or not. In your build this would be even more outspoken as you only have 1k regen unbuffed (from sets). You never just get bursted from 60% to 0% before you can get benefit of the proc?

A suggestion from one HP regen lover to another; Try a StamSorc. They are like made for that ***

I'm going to try this general idea on a Blazing Shield Templar; Orgnums, Plague Doctor and Troll King. A Templar can buff quite a few people's health regen if they drop below 60% and are within the fairly generous radius of Extended Ritual. And 4K health regen under a shield that's exploding might be interesting.

I already tried it. Shield damage was poor. As a dedicated tank for a group that isn't expect to do damage and also buffs everyone, it would work well. Field tested, I could tank a lot of damage, but hardly killed anyone. Granted I didn't gold it out or have good helm traits.

Switched to a magic oriented templar build, and without the khajit passives and quite so many CPs in health recovery, regen was 2400 (vamp) during the proc. Played with Willpower/Torugs, Syrabane, Vicious Death, etc. Damage was lackluster with a mag recovery in the 1100s. I did not try it in Cyro; it didn't seem worth the tradeoffs.

I thought of trying Troll King/Orgnums on my mDK with Silks of the Sun, but feel it would either be missing sufficient regen or damage or both. I may try just Troll King as a way to buff up those mDK heals.

I'm not sure how shield damage would be poor, Orgnums has 2 Max Health buffs, Plague Doctor has 2 plus the huge 5 piece Health bonus, on an Imperial with Structured Entropy and Undaunted passives that should be good for at about 65k health in Cyrodiil and near 70k with Warhorn active.

NBrookus

Sandman929 wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

Nice build. I am running HP regen build myself in no CP where HP regen is really strong.

Am going to test out Troll King myself when i get it in heavy. But my main concern is this;

The strength of HP regen is that it ticks from the very second you get hit on your HP bar. Usually, if anyone gets me below 50% HP it is because i am outnumbered. The times that i die, will ve because i get bursted down for my last 50% within 1-3 seconds. So it would not really matter if i had a proc from troll king or not. In your build this would be even more outspoken as you only have 1k regen unbuffed (from sets). You never just get bursted from 60% to 0% before you can get benefit of the proc?

A suggestion from one HP regen lover to another; Try a StamSorc. They are like made for that ***

I'm going to try this general idea on a Blazing Shield Templar; Orgnums, Plague Doctor and Troll King. A Templar can buff quite a few people's health regen if they drop below 60% and are within the fairly generous radius of Extended Ritual. And 4K health regen under a shield that's exploding might be interesting.

I already tried it. Shield damage was poor. As a dedicated tank for a group that isn't expect to do damage and also buffs everyone, it would work well. Field tested, I could tank a lot of damage, but hardly killed anyone. Granted I didn't gold it out or have good helm traits.

Switched to a magic oriented templar build, and without the khajit passives and quite so many CPs in health recovery, regen was 2400 (vamp) during the proc. Played with Willpower/Torugs, Syrabane, Vicious Death, etc. Damage was lackluster with a mag recovery in the 1100s. I did not try it in Cyro; it didn't seem worth the tradeoffs.

I thought of trying Troll King/Orgnums on my mDK with Silks of the Sun, but feel it would either be missing sufficient regen or damage or both. I may try just Troll King as a way to buff up those mDK heals.

I'm not sure how shield damage would be poor, Orgnums has 2 Max Health buffs, Plague Doctor has 2 plus the huge 5 piece Health bonus, on an Imperial with Structured Entropy and Undaunted passives that should be good for at about 65k health in Cyrodiil and near 70k with Warhorn active.

It was a test build so I didn't pay for a race change; this was on a Breton so no max health passives. ~55k health in Cyro.

Sandman929

NBrookus wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

NBrookus wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

raasdal wrote: »

Nice build. I am running HP regen build myself in no CP where HP regen is really strong.

Am going to test out Troll King myself when i get it in heavy. But my main concern is this;

The strength of HP regen is that it ticks from the very second you get hit on your HP bar. Usually, if anyone gets me below 50% HP it is because i am outnumbered. The times that i die, will ve because i get bursted down for my last 50% within 1-3 seconds. So it would not really matter if i had a proc from troll king or not. In your build this would be even more outspoken as you only have 1k regen unbuffed (from sets). You never just get bursted from 60% to 0% before you can get benefit of the proc?

A suggestion from one HP regen lover to another; Try a StamSorc. They are like made for that ***

I'm going to try this general idea on a Blazing Shield Templar; Orgnums, Plague Doctor and Troll King. A Templar can buff quite a few people's health regen if they drop below 60% and are within the fairly generous radius of Extended Ritual. And 4K health regen under a shield that's exploding might be interesting.

I already tried it. Shield damage was poor. As a dedicated tank for a group that isn't expect to do damage and also buffs everyone, it would work well. Field tested, I could tank a lot of damage, but hardly killed anyone. Granted I didn't gold it out or have good helm traits.

Switched to a magic oriented templar build, and without the khajit passives and quite so many CPs in health recovery, regen was 2400 (vamp) during the proc. Played with Willpower/Torugs, Syrabane, Vicious Death, etc. Damage was lackluster with a mag recovery in the 1100s. I did not try it in Cyro; it didn't seem worth the tradeoffs.

I thought of trying Troll King/Orgnums on my mDK with Silks of the Sun, but feel it would either be missing sufficient regen or damage or both. I may try just Troll King as a way to buff up those mDK heals.

I'm not sure how shield damage would be poor, Orgnums has 2 Max Health buffs, Plague Doctor has 2 plus the huge 5 piece Health bonus, on an Imperial with Structured Entropy and Undaunted passives that should be good for at about 65k health in Cyrodiil and near 70k with Warhorn active.

It was a test build so I didn't pay for a race change; this was on a Breton so no max health passives. ~55k health in Cyro.

As a Breton, 55k is respectable, but yeah that will be some "meh" shield pops. So offensively I understand now. How was your survivability with your general build philosophy, the proc'd high health regen?

It seems like it'd be a good group utility buffing the health regen, and Troll King procs just by healing an ally under 60%, Extended Ritual is a very large radius heal. Running this setup along side a dedicated burst healing Templar could be strong, so I've gotta try.

duuude9192b14_ESO

@Alucardo Thanks for watching. I love me some cat puns. xD I'll do my best to get some build footage up quickly.

@Cathexis Well come on back! Health recovery is in a great place right now

@RyuHyabusa427 Yes this would work on a stam dk, just tweak it as needed. Copy/paste won't be perfect without some adaptation.

Brrrofski wrote: »

I know you won't answer questions like "will this work with black rose" but what about race? Really want to try this on a Stam sorc which is redguard. How does that 20% from orc/khajit work? Before or after sets?

Second question, do you need ogrim scales on both bars? Could I run 3 on the body then just have it on one bar (vigor bar) to proc it then swap to dps bar and get the benefits of it.

No problem, yes you can run this with redguard. You'll still hit over the 3k mark of health recovery which is not bad. You will miss out on some crit, which is really good for stam sorc. Last, yes, you need orgnum's on both swaps, as it will de-proc when you swap to the bar without it. As @raasdal pointed out. Thanks for the assist raasdal.

CapuchinSeven wrote: »

I'd considered a build like this but then remembered I don't have full traits in my heavy armour so couldn't make Orgum's for sometime. Might have to get it made.

One thing you might consider is Vampire for the low health damage resist?

@CapuchinSeven Vampire is out of the question now unfortunately. Your health recovery tanks in vampirism stages 2-4, and you only get the mitigation bonus in the late stages. You could of course, feed and stay in stage 1 to take advantage of mist form on other classes. But you have to stay on top of your feedings regularly, as every mist form would increase your vamp stage timer cooldown by 30 minutes. Very tedious.

Brutusmax1mus wrote: »

Orgnums only buffs base health regen. Surely you would be better off buying with bee keeper right?

Negative, what you've stated is not how orgnum's works, it buffs your current health regen at the time it is active. It also does this retroactively, meaning if it procs before troll king, it will still re-evaluate the new health recovery numbers when troll king procs and buff that as well. I've tested both and I get a much higher max health regen running orgnum's, WITH the added benefit of extra health, which is nice for keeping a higher 60% margin for our procs. Hope this helps.