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this must be a joke...

  • NBrookus
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    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    You just got Lacerate, Berserker Strike and Rapid Fire for high DPS ultimates.
  • QuebraRegra
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    I think if they just went with the Oblivion model for aiming and skill usage this game would be skill based. Being required to predict where your opponent will be for skills is a hell of a lot more of a challenge.

    factor in server lag and you'd have a big fat mess. Hell, even games that purport to be skill based shooters have laughable issues with network/server latency, etc. when trying to "hit" another player (read BATTLEFAIL), and ESO is certainly not one.
  • Sandman929
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    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Why would anyone want that? Are stamina builds envious of a telegraphed ultimate that can be blocked and ignored?
  • Minalan
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    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    An easily blockable ultimate with an obvious two or three second telegraph?

    Yes please, give stamina a meteor. That would be the first nerf they've received in three patches.
  • thankyourat
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Why would anyone want that? Are stamina builds envious of a telegraphed ultimate that can be blocked and ignored?

    Lol meteor is kind of op though because it hits like a truck. I'm pretty sure it's the hardest hitting ultimate in the game. If it didn't have that telegraph it would be way too strong
  • Waffennacht
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Why would anyone want that? Are stamina builds envious of a telegraphed ultimate that can be blocked and ignored?

    Lol meteor is kind of op though because it hits like a truck. I'm pretty sure it's the hardest hitting ultimate in the game. If it didn't have that telegraph it would be way too strong

    ... No... just... not correct

    Compare it to SS, DboS, Incap, Leap, even a single blast from Overload
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  • Sandman929
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Why would anyone want that? Are stamina builds envious of a telegraphed ultimate that can be blocked and ignored?

    Lol meteor is kind of op though because it hits like a truck. I'm pretty sure it's the hardest hitting ultimate in the game. If it didn't have that telegraph it would be way too strong

    ... No... just... not correct

    Compare it to SS, DboS, Incap, Leap, even a single blast from Overload

    Yeah...the best thing about Meteor is the knockback. I can't remember the last time the initial impact was troubling for me.
  • thankyourat
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Why would anyone want that? Are stamina builds envious of a telegraphed ultimate that can be blocked and ignored?

    Lol meteor is kind of op though because it hits like a truck. I'm pretty sure it's the hardest hitting ultimate in the game. If it didn't have that telegraph it would be way too strong

    ... No... just... not correct

    Compare it to SS, DboS, Incap, Leap, even a single blast from Overload

    I've hit people for almost 20k ice commets on my magblade I've never seen any other abilities hit that hard. Even on tanks i usually hit them for 8k to 10k. dbos can't compete in terms of damage. What makes dbos op is it still hits hard but it's instant and not telegraphed. So even though the damage is less it's a better ability for PvP. SS is a channel and it's single target I'm not a big fan of it, leap is just as telegraphed as meteor but doesn't hit as hard. Lol incap can get ridiculous though but that's not because of the ultimate that's because of stamblades damage stacking. That's why if you think about it no one complains about soul harvest even though incap and soul harvest have the same base damage.
  • Khyras
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    PvP in this game looks like neglected cesspool to me, with devs who have no clue what they are doing.
  • zuto40
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    If fighters guild ult is made magic and stam then mages guild should be made magic and stam, its only fair, before i get some *** who says but stams op and magic isnt thats not fair, why is making more things unfair a solution, making things fair 1 small step at a time is the solution, since zos when they take big steps generally mess it up
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  • a1i3nz
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    Lmao yeah pretty much every skill is OP in some form or fashion now. Game requires no skill, just pushing the right buttons.

    I wouldn't be surprised if next patch they made ransack do 20k damage then we'd get a S&B DPS METTTTAAAA
    Edited by a1i3nz on 13 October 2016 10:11
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Sure, I'll just block it.
  • thankyourat
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    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Sure, I'll just block it.

    you can't block it if they cc you first. Does no one know how to use meteor around here lol
  • Sandman929
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    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Sure, I'll just block it.

    you can't block it if they cc you first. Does no one know how to use meteor around here lol

    I also know how to CC break and make Immovable pots.
  • Waffennacht
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Sure, I'll just block it.

    you can't block it if they cc you first. Does no one know how to use meteor around here lol

    I also know how to CC break and make Immovable pots.

    Or run reactive, there are so many ways to counter meteor
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  • bowmanz607
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    Lmao yeah pretty much every skill is OP in some form or fashion now. Game requires no skill, just pushing the right buttons.

    I wouldn't be surprised if next patch they made ransack do 20k damage then we'd get a S&B DPS METTTTAAAA

    With new tremor set, it will be s+b meta lol. I don't even have a min maxed setuo yet. Just a thrown together viper/tremor set with no impen and still wrecking face. Wait till I add red mountain to the mix with Impen gear.
  • thankyourat
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Sure, I'll just block it.

    you can't block it if they cc you first. Does no one know how to use meteor around here lol

    I also know how to CC break and make Immovable pots.

    Well you cant break cc before you take damage if you time it right. And immovable pots will counter every ultimate that has a knock down. That's not a meteor exclusive counter.
  • thankyourat
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Sure, I'll just block it.

    you can't block it if they cc you first. Does no one know how to use meteor around here lol

    I also know how to CC break and make Immovable pots.

    Or run reactive, there are so many ways to counter meteor

    Reactive is a counter to everything it's op. Before you cast any ultimate you are going to cc your opponent first so you don't waste it. If you don't cc them they are just going to block it. There are just as many counters to meteor as any other ultimate. I'm not saying meteor is without its counters, but it's a pretty good ultimate and it's just as easy to counter most of the other ultimates as well
    Edited by thankyourat on 13 October 2016 18:35
  • thankyourat
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Sure, I'll just block it.

    you can't block it if they cc you first. Does no one know how to use meteor around here lol

    I also know how to CC break and make Immovable pots.

    Or run reactive, there are so many ways to counter meteor

    Reactive is a counter to everything it's op. Before you cast any ultimate you are going to cc your opponent first so you don't waste it. If you don't cc them they are just going to block it. There are just as many counters to meteor as any other ultimate.
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    Sandman929 wrote: »
    zuto40 wrote: »
    Hexys wrote: »
    Give us magicka dawnbreaker then. :smile:

    Give us stamina meteor

    Sure, I'll just block it.

    you can't block it if they cc you first. Does no one know how to use meteor around here lol

    I also know how to CC break and make Immovable pots.

    Or run reactive, there are so many ways to counter meteor

    Reactive is a counter to everything it's op. Before you cast any ultimate you are going to cc your opponent first so you don't waste it. If you don't cc them they are just going to block it. There are just as many counters to meteor as any other ultimate. I'm not saying meteor is without its counters but it's a pretty good ultimate and it's just as easy to counter most of the other ultimates as well.
    Edited by thankyourat on 13 October 2016 18:33
  • Astanphaeus
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    OP is a stamblade... knowing this makes me unsurprised that they are complaining about SA.
  • Johngo0036
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    gadrïïr - Maybe this guy was wearing this set,

    Oblivion's Foe

    (2 items) Adds 129 Health Recovery

    (3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery

    (4 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery

    (5 items) Increases the damage of your Soul Trap abilities by 100%.
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    Johngo0036 wrote: »
    gadrïïr - Maybe this guy was wearing this set,

    Oblivion's Foe

    (2 items) Adds 129 Health Recovery

    (3 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery

    (4 items) Adds 129 Magicka Recovery

    (5 items) Increases the damage of your Soul Trap abilities by 100%.

    That set only buffs the soul trap skill amd its morfs. It does not apply to the ult.
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  • TipsyDrow
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    Lmao yeah pretty much every skill is OP in some form or fashion now. Game requires no skill, just pushing the right buttons.

    I wouldn't be surprised if next patch they made ransack do 20k damage then we'd get a S&B DPS METTTTAAAA

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  • Kryptonite_Kent
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    Wait, wait, wait... you're crying that 1 magic ultimate is a little OP? Cry me a river bro, you know how easy it is to kill magicka users? We are literally forced to stack some stamina, which nerfs our damage, just to be able to MAYBE break 2 stuns.... meanwhile every stamfart out there has a billion stuns or spams DS until they run you out of block, which we also cant do much of, and BINGO they won the stun lottery!! EXECUTE SPAM FTW on the guy who cant fight back!! Meanwhile you clowns can spam dodge roll, stun break a million times, block all day... all with 0 impact on your damage because its your main stat... but please tell us more about your hardships against a crap casted dot ultimate that can be los'd and broken or just blocked/shielded with your massive pile of stamina.
    Edited by Kryptonite_Kent on 17 October 2016 08:10
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    Wrobel wants to make health more valuable in the game.

    Step 1....
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    Wrobel wants to make health more valuable in the game.

    Step 1....
    Make some changes so that people can easily theorycraft builds with 200k HP and then change all health based shields to scale off Stamina.
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    Wait, wait, wait... you're crying that 1 magic ultimate is a little OP? Cry me a river bro, you know how easy it is to kill magicka users? We are literally forced to stack some stamina, which nerfs our damage, just to be able to MAYBE break 2 stuns.... meanwhile every stamfart out there has a billion stuns or spams DS until they run you out of block, which we also cant do much of, and BINGO they won the stun lottery!! EXECUTE SPAM FTW on the guy who cant fight back!! Meanwhile you clowns can spam dodge roll, stun break a million times, block all day... all with 0 impact on your damage because its your main stat... but please tell us more about your hardships against a crap casted dot ultimate that can be los'd and broken or just blocked/shielded with your massive pile of stamina.

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  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Just one correction ... my Soul Assault hits for 70k, not 40k.

    GIVE EM THE BEAMS!!!
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    Just one correction ... my Soul Assault hits for 70k, not 40k.

    GIVE EM THE BEAMS!!!

    Over 3 or 4secs? Let's just say the 3 sec one. So 35k PvP or 12k per sec (rounding up) Let's say modest armor so... 15% reduction so 10k per sec. If they block 5k per sec

    Still decent
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  • Elara_Northwind
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    I don't use soul assault atm, I have better ultimates, but like other people have said, stamina is stupid and has been for a long time, 30k is nothing, right? :lol: I have almost got my beautiful orc maiden stamtard to vet, and I HATE playing stamina, but when I do I cannot wait to see the difference first hand between magicka and stamina, not so that I can be powerful without reason, but so that I can be powerful and tell everyone who justifies imbalance with imbalances from the past, that this imbalance is epically worse! :smiley:

    I thought that games were meant to progress and find balance, not substitute one imabalance for another and then make that worse with sets that are stupid!! I have a friend who is a stam lover, he plays stam sorc and stam DK, and grats to him, he always has, and is not only doing it because its strong now, but my templar is trying out rattlecage atm, and he was trying out some set, I don't remember the name, but it was the same, gave the physical damage buff all times, but it also gave major expedition, really? just one more set we compared that favoured stam! Whoever makes these sets is obviously a stamtard :lol: It is ridiculous. The magicka DK's who ruled the world of Tamriel at the start of the game cannot even compare to this, its moronic.
    Edited by Elara_Northwind on 20 October 2016 23:02
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