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geonsocal

was looking at the vivec leaderboards last night...

on vivec NA addie smash was sitting at around 16 mil...

over on EU the yellow emp there (for the life of me, I can't remember how to spell their name) has 22 million - no other player on the map has more than 10 million...

man, I can't wait to kill them...of course I'll have to use my siege, and get extremely lucky...but, that'll be a very good day when it happens...

Lokirules

TequilaFire wrote: »

I just wish I could find an EP guild that still plays that would stay committed to winning the campaign.
There are good players but guild leadership is so flaky and vendetta driven.

Tequila you and @dotme would both be welcomed in my guild if you wish I’m always looking for people and I don’t care if you prefer Zergs or solo

Hurtfan

After reading all the feedback on the shield nerf, unfortunately I'm done for a while. I only have time for 1 toon and I have no desire to play another class or "adapt". Adapting to me means, time to figure out what new gear sets I need and start grinding...again = PvE, which is okay, but I'm a PvPer.

I never say never (I just said it twice), so I may come back after a while but for now I'll just be lurking on the forums to pass the time at work.

Side note, playing other games has been refreshing and fun. Also looking forward to RDR2.

Hope everyone here is still having fun playing ESO (one of my all time favorite MMOs), but if you take a break and play some RDR2 or Black Ops 4, hit me up. My PSN name is stellarwinter.

kylewwefan

It does sound like it would be a good time to put the ESO down and pick up something else for awhile. But we do still have a week or so left of good playtime.

dotme

Hurtfan wrote: »

After reading all the feedback on the shield nerf, unfortunately I'm done for a while. I only have time for 1 toon and I have no desire to play another class or "adapt". Adapting to me means, time to figure out what new gear sets I need and start grinding...again = PvE, which is okay, but I'm a PvPer.

I never say never (I just said it twice), so I may come back after a while but for now I'll just be lurking on the forums to pass the time at work.

Side note, playing other games has been refreshing and fun. Also looking forward to RDR2.

Hope everyone here is still having fun playing ESO (one of my all time favorite MMOs), but if you take a break and play some RDR2 or Black Ops 4, hit me up. My PSN name is stellarwinter.

Hah we've run together on occasion (My PSN is in my signature). I may also step away for a bit. Worried about broken skills on my Stamblade (forum feedback) and like you, I'm not about to grind out a new character. I'll see what happens when the update drops but if they broke my main, I'm probably going to explore alternatives for a while (RDR2 being one of them).

This is my first MMO, but I don't understand the whole "Let's mess with everything" philosophy these quarterly updates bring. They fill me with dread. Not only do they break skills, but twice in the past year they totally broke PvP with infinite load screens and freezing. Sometimes they should just leave well enough alone.

@Lokirules Thanks for the offer - Some evenings I run solo because I have other things going on in the house and I don't group if I can't stay on crown but I may be in touch once I figure out which existing guild on my list of 5 is going to get dropped. Weekdays I'm pretty much a working stiff so I'm primetime only on ESO.

geonsocal

dotme wrote: »

This is my first MMO, but I don't understand the whole "Let's mess with everything" philosophy these quarterly updates bring. They fill me with dread. Not only do they break skills, but twice in the past year they totally broke PvP with infinite load screens and freezing. Sometimes they should just leave well enough alone.

this a thousand times over...

recently picked up spiderman, but, neither my godson nor i really got in to it...there's just something about having an adult peter parker that doesn't sit well with me...

i've read a few stories where he was older which were okay, but, haven't really been able to get in to the game too much...

RDR2 looks absolutely amazing (as does the new assassin's creed), but, i think i'll pass for now...

there's a good chance i'll pick up fallout 76 in a month or so...i don't know, early reviews of the beta aren't very good...

i've been playing eso now for 3 years...much longer than any other game i've ever played - if you asked me if i see myself playing eso five years from now - i'd say probably not...

that just seems like a really long time with one game...

i think this patch is going to push away a lot of players, particularly those whom have been in the game since the beginning...

what dotme said pretty well sums up the feeling a lot of people have towards this game...after a while - it just grows old...

geonsocal

uh oh, best to stay off the front page for a while...

zos made some adjustments to weapon enchants (they proc now off of both weapons for dual wield users, and every weapon damage tick like bleeds, and ability attack - all with no cooldown)...

hopefully zos can get it fixed before it goes live on our platform...

although - I do just happen to have a dual wield magblade wearing sload's and torug's with oblivion enchants

the pet, shield, speed, evasion (I'm sure I'm missing other stuff) nerfs are not that great a thing, but, broken weapon enchants will definitely mess up pvp badly...

MalagenR

geonsocal wrote: »

was looking at the vivec leaderboards last night...

on vivec NA addie smash was sitting at around 16 mil...

over on EU the yellow emp there (for the life of me, I can't remember how to spell their name) has 22 million - no other player on the map has more than 10 million...

man, I can't wait to kill them...of course I'll have to use my siege, and get extremely lucky...but, that'll be a very good day when it happens...

AD really came together with Addie. Addie been doing a great job and so have all the other crowns.

TequilaFire

Yeah, great job Pvdooring when nobody else is on.
You really should be thanking all your EU brothers.

MalagenR

TequilaFire wrote: »

Yeah, great job Pvdooring when nobody else is on.
You really should be thanking all your EU brothers.

No butthurt allowed here. I play during primetime and EP been getting wrecked then too. As someone who plays on AD I can assure you it has to do with crowns rallying under the Empress of the Aldmeri Dominion. Queen Ayrenn is just a figurehead, Addie is Empress.

TequilaFire

Oh yeah?
I get up at 6:00AM and AD is poplocked map yellow all scrolls taken by nefarious means and no bars EP or DC.
GG if you like winning that way.
When EP gets on after getting home from work you guys get wrecked.
If there were region and alliance lock the tale would be quite different.
And Addie is nothing without Sanj's support.

kylewwefan

gotta give the guy credit on that. Don’t see anyone rallying to fight for our king.

Lokirules

MalagenR wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Yeah, great job Pvdooring when nobody else is on.
You really should be thanking all your EU brothers.

No butthurt allowed here. I play during primetime and EP been getting wrecked then too. As someone who plays on AD I can assure you it has to do with crowns rallying under the Empress of the Aldmeri Dominion. Queen Ayrenn is just a figurehead, Addie is Empress.

TequilaFire wrote: »

Oh yeah?
I get up at 6:00AM and AD is poplocked map yellow all scrolls taken by nefarious means and no bars EP or DC.
GG if you like winning that way.
When EP gets on after getting home from work you guys get wrecked.
If there were region and alliance lock the tale would be quite different.
And Addie is nothing without Sanj's support.

It’s not butthurt when it’s a 100 percent true I used to get on around 8 am mountain time and the map looks exactly like Tequila says there is no point playing at that time and what’s left is being behind by 1k plus points every day just because Ad abuses this crap Congrats on your guys Victory.

MalagenR

Lokirules wrote: »

MalagenR wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Yeah, great job Pvdooring when nobody else is on.
You really should be thanking all your EU brothers.

No butthurt allowed here. I play during primetime and EP been getting wrecked then too. As someone who plays on AD I can assure you it has to do with crowns rallying under the Empress of the Aldmeri Dominion. Queen Ayrenn is just a figurehead, Addie is Empress.

TequilaFire wrote: »

Oh yeah?
I get up at 6:00AM and AD is poplocked map yellow all scrolls taken by nefarious means and no bars EP or DC.
GG if you like winning that way.
When EP gets on after getting home from work you guys get wrecked.
If there were region and alliance lock the tale would be quite different.
And Addie is nothing without Sanj's support.

It’s not butthurt when it’s a 100 percent true I used to get on around 8 am mountain time and the map looks exactly like Tequila says there is no point playing at that time and what’s left is being behind by 1k plus points every day just because Ad abuses this crap Congrats on your guys Victory.

What do you mean abuses? What is being abused? I'm confused, last night we ran scroll totally legit during primetime lol....Are you trying to pretend that EP and DC don't work together and do shady stuff to us, that this is a one way train?

dotme

Oh the salt... lol

I'll say AD rolled Vivec this campaign, especially the last 10 days or so. Last night was just ugly for EP. Logged on around 7pm Eastern and we were basically gated. The few EP players who were on insisted on getting farmed repeatedly at Arrius (That lasted over 2 hours by the way) instead of dropping decent-sized groups south to take BM, BB and Faragyl like they should have. I really think EP had the numbers by 9pm but zero organization.

After getting exploded by Addie for the 5th time in 30 minutes, I took the hint, dropped group and went and flagged some keeps/capped resources in the South. But what a mess.

I will say that I saw a lot or traditionally-blue players wearing yellow last night. That doesn't help morale much on the red team... EP has good leaders, but none were on last night it seemed. I can only imagine how bad things may get with RDR2 coming any day.

The only thing about these huge AD zergs is that you have to be a bit careful what you wish for. Over-zerg the map and you'll demoralize your opponents to the point that nobody logs on. An all-yellow map will get pretty boring pretty quickly.

TequilaFire

It's just a dumb game that allows such a population imbalance to happen in the first place.
And on top of that the game design gives the biggest population the most buffs and bonus because they run the map unchallenged.
And spare me the working with blues crap, there aren't any blues on to work with either.

Lokirules

MalagenR wrote: »

Lokirules wrote: »

MalagenR wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Yeah, great job Pvdooring when nobody else is on.
You really should be thanking all your EU brothers.

No butthurt allowed here. I play during primetime and EP been getting wrecked then too. As someone who plays on AD I can assure you it has to do with crowns rallying under the Empress of the Aldmeri Dominion. Queen Ayrenn is just a figurehead, Addie is Empress.

TequilaFire wrote: »

Oh yeah?
I get up at 6:00AM and AD is poplocked map yellow all scrolls taken by nefarious means and no bars EP or DC.
GG if you like winning that way.
When EP gets on after getting home from work you guys get wrecked.
If there were region and alliance lock the tale would be quite different.
And Addie is nothing without Sanj's support.

It’s not butthurt when it’s a 100 percent true I used to get on around 8 am mountain time and the map looks exactly like Tequila says there is no point playing at that time and what’s left is being behind by 1k plus points every day just because Ad abuses this crap Congrats on your guys Victory.

What do you mean abuses? What is being abused? I'm confused, last night we ran scroll totally legit during primetime lol....Are you trying to pretend that EP and DC don't work together and do shady stuff to us, that this is a one way train?

If Ep and Dc worked together than Ad would always be gated and let’s not forget Ads new friends Cosmic And Centex who gave you guys scrolls when you were behind and it is an abuse because your attacking a map with no resistance on it taking everything and then sitting on you gains against no resistance that just shows that ad is trash Ep gates you guys with 3 bars against 3 bars at night when we are actually on and not working. Let’s also not forget that during Midyear Ad loyalists jumped on Ep toons and ran scrolls to their true alliance or any of the other crap Ad does on a regular basis

NightAngel690

dotme wrote: »

Oh the salt... lol

I'll say AD rolled Vivec this campaign, especially the last 10 days or so. Last night was just ugly for EP. Logged on around 7pm Eastern and we were basically gated. The few EP players who were on insisted on getting farmed repeatedly at Arrius (That lasted over 2 hours by the way) instead of dropping decent-sized groups south to take BM, BB and Faragyl like they should have.

The only thing about these huge AD zergs is that you have to be a bit careful what you wish for. Over-zerg the map and you'll demoralize your opponents to the point that nobody logs on. An all-yellow map will get pretty boring pretty quickly.

They roll the map because everyone is too busy with the event. Also, unlike AD, ep players actually have lives. Unlike some people *cough cough addie cough cough* We don’t get up at 6am just to roll the map and gate everyone. there’s no point in winning a dead campaign. When we say, “we roll the map” we legit roll the map against a pop locked factions. We will face you down and win 90% of the time. But yes. Congrats on proving that “the real AD” cannot face Ep. I wish I was op enough to pvdoor empty keeps.

MalagenR

Oh god man - the tears are universal, it's like some of you noobs have never played MMO's before, I've witnessed this amount of crying in every MMO since MMO's were created 20 years ago, you just cry and cry and cry.

Take your losses like the men you pretend to be. Just because you're losing a campaign doesn't mean your world is over. Any crown you have that quits / cries when it gets tough isn't really a leader, more like an overlord leading a group of zerglings. So stuff those tears into w/e bag is necessary so you can bring it during the next campaign.

Or you can cry all day about a girl who has no life face rolling your faction at 6 AM. Whichever one makes you sound like a bigger boy in your head okay?

Lokirules

MalagenR wrote: »

Oh god man - the tears are universal, it's like some of you noobs have never played MMO's before, I've witnessed this amount of crying in every MMO since MMO's were created 20 years ago, you just cry and cry and cry.

Take your losses like the men you pretend to be. Just because you're losing a campaign doesn't mean your world is over. Any crown you have that quits / cries when it gets tough isn't really a leader, more like an overlord leading a group of zerglings. So stuff those tears into w/e bag is necessary so you can bring it during the next campaign.

Or you can cry all day about a girl who has no life face rolling your faction at 6 AM. Whichever one makes you sound like a bigger boy in your head okay?

Lol play another faction then tell me how hard it is on Ad no ones was crying just pointing out how Ad is slowly killing Pvp Pc is healthy because all factions have won. Who wins on PS4 oh that’s right it’s Ad

Sanctum74

It's funny how nobody had a problem when EP was zerging down AD the first half of the campaign, but now that AD is winning it's cheating, abusing, Europeans, or whatever conspiracy theories you all got.

It shouldn't be a surprise by now, it's the same every campaign. Whoever is winning people play that faction and btw Cosmik and Centex were not helping AD, they were taking our scrolls. Not sure how that's considered helpful.

Lokirules

Sanctum74 wrote: »

It's funny how nobody had a problem when EP was zerging down AD the first half of the campaign, but now that AD is winning it's cheating, abusing, Europeans, or whatever conspiracy theories you all got.

It shouldn't be a surprise by now, it's the same every campaign. Whoever is winning people play that faction and btw Cosmik and Centex were not helping AD, they were taking our scrolls. Not sure how that's considered helpful.

We are complaining because Vivec is starting to lose its population because everyone would rather be on Ad winning. Dc and Ep continue to lose players while Ads never stop growing it’s actually getting to the point where Vivec is coming close to a farm server which is something I don’t want to happen if I want a farm server Ill go chase blue out of Shor. And Centex ran your scrolls which Ep had taken to Ad and then did the same to Blues

AMeanOne

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geonsocal

if only zos could truly build a pvp game worthy of its passionate participants...

you all rock

sooooooo, originally i wanted to insert a "juicy" gif - cuz, the last bit of conversations have been pretty feisty...because, well - losing sucks, and, watching the same folks always win is tiresome...

AD is quickly becoming the new england patriots of cyrodiil...they are just winning too darn much, too darn often

turns out though - most "juicy" gifs involve barely clad females - while not unpleasant to view - not really suited for this particular thread...

so, cuz i'm really really hungry - i'll leave this:


mmmmmmmmmm, look at that bacon on the burger...


so hungry...

Lokirules

geonsocal wrote: »

if only zos could truly build a pvp game worthy of its passionate participants...

you all rock

sooooooo, originally i wanted to insert a "juicy" gif - cuz, the last bit of conversations have been pretty feisty...because, well - losing sucks, and, watching the same folks always win is tiresome...

AD is quickly becoming the new england patriots of cyrodiil...they are just winning too darn much for too darn often

turns out though - most "juicy" gifs involve barely clad females - while not unpleasant to view - not really suited for this particular thread...

so, cuz i'm really really hungry - i'll leave this:


mmmmmmmmmm, look at that bacon on the burger...


so hungry...

I’m pretty much done with my saltyness I just get sick of the crap some Ad players peddle out on the Salt page and in our zone chat. @Sanctum74 is a good player and I can guess that so is @MalagenR I just want campaigns where everyone has a chance of winning rather than it being one sided and Midyear was fun because of that.

Sanctum74

Lokirules wrote: »

Sanctum74 wrote: »

It's funny how nobody had a problem when EP was zerging down AD the first half of the campaign, but now that AD is winning it's cheating, abusing, Europeans, or whatever conspiracy theories you all got.

It shouldn't be a surprise by now, it's the same every campaign. Whoever is winning people play that faction and btw Cosmik and Centex were not helping AD, they were taking our scrolls. Not sure how that's considered helpful.

We are complaining because Vivec is starting to lose its population because everyone would rather be on Ad winning. Dc and Ep continue to lose players while Ads never stop growing it’s actually getting to the point where Vivec is coming close to a farm server which is something I don’t want to happen if I want a farm server Ill go chase blue out of Shor. And Centex ran your scrolls which Ep had taken to Ad and then did the same to Blues

I agree the situation sucks, but it's definitely not an Ad or Addie problem causing it. The game performance and cheese sets have chased away most of the population and the few that are left switch back and forth between factions depending on who's winning at the time. Past few campaigns EP had a big lead at the beginning because people switched to EP and zerged the map. I didn't see any of you complaining then when EP had 3 bars and AD only had 1-2 during prime time.

My point is if you're going to blame anyone then blame Zos for allowing it. Until there is some sort of faction lock, penalty, or population balance mechanism in place then this will continue to happen. It's a shame, but Cyrodiil will never be as great as it once was.

geonsocal

hmmmm, I still remember 2016 when DC won about a dozen or so campaigns in a row and was absolutely crushing EP and AD...

there have always been lopsided campaigns...

it feels like the true exception is when we get a 30 day campaign which is competitive (especially amongst all 3 factions)...

and you know what - those are absolutely awesome and a total blast to play in...

parity in score and population is the true nirvana for cyrodii...

I'm not sure though how you can code that into the campaign...

kylewwefan

geonsocal wrote: »

hmmmm, I still remember 2016 when DC won about a dozen or so campaigns in a row and was absolutely crushing EP and AD...

there have always been lopsided campaigns...

it feels like the true exception is when we get a 30 day campaign which is competitive (especially amongst all 3 factions)...

and you know what - those are absolutely awesome and a total blast to play in...

parity in score and population is the true nirvana for cyrodii...

I'm not sure though how you can code that into the campaign...

I remember that. I want it to go back to that. Winning feels good. Lol! Now I pop into Cyrodil. Look at the map. Say to myself, well I’ll try to do something.

Get thwarted rather after blowing half hour there.

Can’t find a group.

Go do something else.

dotme

TequilaFire wrote: »

It's just a dumb game that allows such a population imbalance to happen in the first place.
And on top of that the game design gives the biggest population the most buffs and bonus because they run the map unchallenged.

Exactly this. When one faction has a queue, another can barely muster two bars, and the third has one bar, it really isn't as much fun for any faction, even the pop-locked one.

When events happen, new games drop etc and Vivec isn't full on all 3 sides, it's likely that the team with the highest numbers overall will win. It is odd that the more you roll, the stronger you get, and the harder it is for the low-pop factions to retake at least their segment of the map. Underdog bonuses of campaign points and more AP is nice and all, but when your stats are lower due to keep and scroll buffs, it's an uphill struggle.

My point is, when Midyear Mahem was in full swing and all sides fielded a full team every night with queues for everyone, Vivec was a ton of fun. Once you have 3 bars vs 2 bars vs 1 bar, it simply isn't.

Takes-No-Prisoner

This is why I have not been on much.