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geonsocal

Lokirules wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

Pretty sad cen_tex_vet_254 and cozmicwhale had to expooit to get the scrolls away from ad and give it to red pvp in this game is so flawed man

Lolll they gave scrolls to yellow and blue last night and several of my guildees have the video evidence of it

sadly, it's a part of the "game"...

ugh, that *** bugs the hell out of me too...

okay, I get it, you're bored, you're bothered - whatever...

why *** it up for everyone else though...

allstarplayergk

@Jake1576 @Lokirules here’s the video on how they’re doing it, and yeah they just did the same *** as last night CEN glitched cozmic through all of ADs walls again, took their Scrolls and now he just got crowned Emp smh, trash. https://youtu.be/0xCdGndd498

geonsocal

i don't consider myself naive...still, it's disappointing...

it's a good thing there are tools for capturing those actions...we're not the referees (go justice system ), so we're dependant on zos to intervene...

I don't know - if there's one thing this game can definitely do without: scroll stealing...that and lag, disconnects, pop balancing in cyro, being able to raise pop caps during pvp events, all this damn balancing every few months...

a guess as a regular pvper - number one would be game performance...it sucks not being able to depend on your skills or pots working...mildly annoying also is the stuck in combat bug that's returned with a vengeance...

great, just what my mag characters needed - a good half kilometer jog or so going in to a fight...

dotme

I played for about an hour in Cyrodiil last night, but I was just too salty to get into it. Decided to decorate my villa instead.

That place is huge.

Watching someone blatantly cheat without ramification is very demotivating. I'm probably too emotionally invested in an EP win. Those who've been playing since ESO dropped know our history in the 30-day and it hasn't been easy in past years.

To top it off, the active guild I play with on weeknights isn't really on the same page I am when it comes to goals and winning the campaign. I'm probably going to end up rolling solo again. Solo life isn't bad - I do a lot of scouting and help out in big fights when I can. It's just hard to drag myself into the game when I know that hours of pushing for a scroll can be undone by three or four cheaters in under 2 minutes. Who designs a game like that?

TequilaFire

Sad part is this will probably get moderated because of naming and shaming forum rules.
I hope that video got submitted, but have little hope they will do anything about it.

Takes-No-Prisoner

dotme wrote: »

I played for about an hour in Cyrodiil last night, but I was just too salty to get into it. Decided to decorate my villa instead.

That place is huge.

Watching someone blatantly cheat without ramification is very demotivating. I'm probably too emotionally invested in an EP win. Those who've been playing since ESO dropped know our history in the 30-day and it hasn't been easy in past years.

To top it off, the active guild I play with on weeknights isn't really on the same page I am when it comes to goals and winning the campaign. I'm probably going to end up rolling solo again. Solo life isn't bad - I do a lot of scouting and help out in big fights when I can. It's just hard to drag myself into the game when I know that hours of pushing for a scroll can be undone by three or four cheaters in under 2 minutes. Who designs a game like that?

I've had a couple of call outs I did on my EP toon. Despite the trolling another AD player was doing in Zone chat, groups of EP and randoms showed up to my call outs when keeps got hit/flagged.

Hurtfan

Busted!

I played a little last night and was wondering how they did this. Just heard a little about it in zone chat.

Jake1576

TequilaFire wrote: »

Sad part is this will probably get moderated because of naming and shaming forum rules.
I hope that video got submitted, but have little hope they will do anything about it.

I was the only one I think that name shamed them I was just so frustrated by what they are doing I didn't really think about it when I was writing the post I took their names out of it but ppl still quoted it so unfortunately it can still be seen on other's replies lol

Sanctum74

Hmm just noticed he's not on the leaderboards anymore. Not sure if he got banned or dropped emp so his buddy could get it who was the one letting him in the keeps to get the scrolls.

geonsocal

i sort of/kind of get the whole - "it's just a game, man" perspective...however, when the game involves a community - fair play is essential...

i would imagine it also makes a lot of financial sense to the host to ensure the environment they "manage" provides its consumers with as even a playing field as possible (mechanic, and, coding deficiencies aside)...

i'm sure people get away with a bunch of "shady" stuff on shor, sotha sil, and the midyear maps...i would hope though if you start engaging in some dicey behavior which is detrimental to the community as a whole - with all the eyes, ears (and cameras) in vivec, hopefully the host's action would be swift...

geonsocal

been back playing my four DC characters in vivec NA world...cyrodiil is just super empty during the time i play over there in EU land...it may be better suited for me to play there on the weekends...

i'm not sure how long this feeling will last..but, i just don't feel like coming out of the pact or dominion gates...

altogether now i have 9 DC characters between the two servers, so, i still have plenty of character variety...

if i really feel like playing one of my red or yellow toons, i'll probably just bring them into deathmatch...

had to turn zone chat off though when i go back on the NA server...man, i can ignore or laugh at plenty of stuff - the level of discourse though makes me immediately think of george:


i know it's not very politically correct, but the term "idiot child" came to mind last night reading some of that crap...it's amazing how a few can *** it up for so many...

definitely a lot of smart, cool folks out there playing - unfortunately, very few of them participate in zone chat...

geonsocal

@dotme i just noticed your psn (PS4Pro - NA Server - PSN: ASFDJ)...now i know who you are

actually, it's been a while, but, i do recognize your psn...

kylewwefan

Before getting carried away calling this cheating or something....the guy gets his character in position to be emp, but can’t get any of the faction together to participate in helping him make the final push for it.

So with the tools at our disposal given to us by the creator of this game. And a trusted good friend. Cause games are better with friends. 2 players are able to accomplish what a whole faction wouldn’t do in under an hour.

I would honestly never have thaught about doing this. But after recently being an an under 50 empty 3:00 am server, you see this is how these things get done. It’s legit.

There quite literally is no one on the other side to flip them back over. We come up with our own objectives. I give the guy props for coming up with the ingenuity to pull it off.

You guys stand around acting all shocked and appalled over what’s taking place....could have taken any number of actions. But chose to watch and get schooled.

TequilaFire

But tactics like that are exactly why a faction won't push for a particular player.
That wasn't simple PvDoor night capping.

Hurtfan

Glitching to get inside doors is not injenuity, it happens all the time.

geonsocal

kylewwefan wrote: »

Before getting carried away calling this cheating or something....the guy gets his character in position to be emp, but can’t get any of the faction together to participate in helping him make the final push for it.

So with the tools at our disposal given to us by the creator of this game. And a trusted good friend. Cause games are better with friends. 2 players are able to accomplish what a whole faction wouldn’t do in under an hour.

I would honestly never have thought about doing this. But after recently being an an under 50 empty 3:00 am server, you see this is how these things get done. It’s legit.

There quite literally is no one on the other side to flip them back over. We come up with our own objectives. I give the guy props for coming up with the ingenuity to pull it off.

You guys stand around acting all shocked and appalled over what’s taking place....could have taken any number of actions. But chose to watch and get schooled.

that's a pretty generous and open minded take on the situation...definitely a bit of a blue tint on the perspective

dotme

kylewwefan wrote: »

I give the guy props for coming up with the ingenuity to pull it off.

Intentionally bypassing mechanics is an exploit. Plain and simple.

To summarize, if you are using abilities such as gap closers to do things that are not within the realm of intended design and/or bypassing core game mechanics, such as entering keeps without downing doors and/or walls and getting under the environment (ground, water, etc.), you are exploiting.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/278031/cyrodiil-cheating-exploiting-you/p1

Abysswarrior45

Lol... who cares? Score doesn't matter and both those players are bad. Why didn't anyone burst Cosmic if it was so aggravating?

Abysswarrior45

I'm unbanned fyi. Hurt people's feelings apparently.

Syrusthevirus187

Yeah why didn't the zerg earthgore him to death

allstarplayergk

@Abysswarrior45 I sat at Farragut nuking cosmic and grim for almost 2 hours until EP pushed out and they just went and did it at every scroll keep, And did it all last night. They would go wherever I wasn’t because yes, they are not good players and couldn’t accomplish it uncontested. I did do something about it, the only thing you can do, followed CEN until I caught exactly how they were exploiting. @kylewwefan I get it, I see the avatar, but ep spent years gated by ad and dc Zergs, and no one ever felt the need to break the game to make thier alliance relevant on the map, gap closing into keeps us not clever, it’s been in the game since launch, and has since been marked as a banable exploit, and why no one does it anymore(taking Scrolls via this exploit is not new)

kylewwefan

I’ve ran around with CenTex before. He’s a good dude.

TequilaFire

Never mind, decided to exercise the wisdom of years.

kylewwefan

I see your point. But which Gooch? Grandpa gooch is cool. But when GrandSon gooch is on. Oooh. Hate that guy.

Edit. I’ve never been on the same side as that guy. He will always remain infamous amongst loyal covenant warriors

TequilaFire

You beat my edit! lol

Takes-No-Prisoner

kylewwefan wrote: »

I’ve ran around with CenTex before. He’s a good dude.

That's why I don't understand why he's griefing people. Did he sell his account?

kylewwefan

I dont know? Maybe just doing something for the sake of doing something. Fairly certain both of them guys have had emp somewhere sometime. Covenant is like 10k points behind. Just not even relevant in Cyrodil. Feels bad man. Go do something else.

dotme

kylewwefan wrote: »

I dont know? Maybe just doing something for the sake of doing something. Fairly certain both of them guys have had emp somewhere sometime. Covenant is like 10k points behind. Just not even relevant in Cyrodil. Feels bad man. Go do something else.

Can't get on board with the behavior, but I can understand the frustration if that's what was behind it. EP lost a campaign to AD earlier this year by 17K points.

I don't know what's happened with DC. They have some great players, but instead of taking map they just tower farm or PvDoor back keeps. I recall for a while that DC was dominating in Shor, but a balanced campaign is more fun for everyone. We had some earlier this year that were so close for all 3 factions right down to the final day. Those were exciting.

So I hope DC numbers and focus comes back, I really do.

Lokirules

dotme wrote: »

kylewwefan wrote: »

I dont know? Maybe just doing something for the sake of doing something. Fairly certain both of them guys have had emp somewhere sometime. Covenant is like 10k points behind. Just not even relevant in Cyrodil. Feels bad man. Go do something else.

Can't get on board with the behavior, but I can understand the frustration if that's what was behind it. EP lost a campaign to AD earlier this year by 17K points.

I don't know what's happened with DC. They have some great players, but instead of taking map they just tower farm or PvDoor back keeps. I recall for a while that DC was dominating in Shor, but a balanced campaign is more fun for everyone. We had some earlier this year that were so close for all 3 factions right down to the final day. Those were exciting.

So I hope DC numbers and focus comes back, I really do.

Dc gave up on the campaign on the second day it’s really bad for them from what I hear

Lokirules

Abysswarrior45 wrote: »

Lol... who cares? Score doesn't matter and both those players are bad. Why didn't anyone burst Cosmic if it was so aggravating?

Who cares about score? I do and so do the close to 1000 plus people in my 3 pvp guilds and most of the players I have met via pugging. The thing people have to realize is that while the score doesn’t matter to you it matters to others. You can play how you want but so can I.