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Velidreth is OP
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Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol1 -
Sandman929✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerfStrider_Roshin wrote: »@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol
Sounds like you're not properly prepared to deal with RD.7 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Sandman929 wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol
Sounds like you're not properly prepared to deal with RD.
With 75 points into elemental defender on top of the previous resistances mentioned; it sounds like RD needs to get its damage adjusted.1 -
a1i3nz✭✭✭✭This is why I made my templar full blown cheddar now. Heavy Kags (for those insta rez after an insta kill), transmutation, malubeth. And still they'll talk smack when they can't gank you.Edited by a1i3nz on 9 September 2016 06:230 -
Armitas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerf
I saw the direct damage just didn't know or ever suspect that rapid strikes would be a dot. Will sorc pets like clanfear or the Morkuldin Summoned sword proc Selene's visage? Any chance spiked bone shield could proc it?Edited by Armitas on 9 September 2016 15:22Retired.
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olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerfCant say I like any kinds of "free" procc, really just takes away from skill. Stack enough proccs on a cancerous build and you really dont need to think at all, just mash a couple buttons and gg.
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Erock25✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerfStrider_Roshin wrote: »@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol
When you're blocking, maybe. What does "not in general" mean though? Are you saying that once it hit you for 3k but not in general. I've got about 67 points into hardy and 5 gold impen pieces just fyi and it hits me for 6k+.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol
When you're blocking, maybe. What does "not in general" mean though? Are you saying that once it hit you for 3k but not in general. I've got about 67 points into hardy and 5 gold impen pieces just fyi and it hits me for 6k+.
I wasn't blocking, and this was in my death recap. The only time I've seen it in my death recap actually. I've seen it plenty of times in Cyrodiil though, but the spores are pretty easy to avoid for the most part.0 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerf.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol
When you're blocking, maybe. What does "not in general" mean though? Are you saying that once it hit you for 3k but not in general. I've got about 67 points into hardy and 5 gold impen pieces just fyi and it hits me for 6k+.
I wasn't blocking, and this was in my death recap. The only time I've seen it in my death recap actually. I've seen it plenty of times in Cyrodiil though, but the spores are pretty easy to avoid for the most part.
For the most part it is literally impossable to avoid them because one of them spawns right on top of you.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol
When you're blocking, maybe. What does "not in general" mean though? Are you saying that once it hit you for 3k but not in general. I've got about 67 points into hardy and 5 gold impen pieces just fyi and it hits me for 6k+.
I wasn't blocking, and this was in my death recap. The only time I've seen it in my death recap actually. I've seen it plenty of times in Cyrodiil though, but the spores are pretty easy to avoid for the most part.
For the most part it is literally impossable to avoid them because one of them spawns right on top of you.
If they are immediately in your face at the time of activation, yes. However, PvP involves a lot of dodging, and distance fighting. During these moments, a proc'd velidreth is a waste of DPS. I play melee primarily, and I still avoid the majority of those spores.0 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerfStrider_Roshin wrote: ».Strider_Roshin wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol
When you're blocking, maybe. What does "not in general" mean though? Are you saying that once it hit you for 3k but not in general. I've got about 67 points into hardy and 5 gold impen pieces just fyi and it hits me for 6k+.
I wasn't blocking, and this was in my death recap. The only time I've seen it in my death recap actually. I've seen it plenty of times in Cyrodiil though, but the spores are pretty easy to avoid for the most part.
For the most part it is literally impossable to avoid them because one of them spawns right on top of you.
If they are immediately in your face at the time of activation, yes. However, PvP involves a lot of dodging, and distance fighting. During these moments, a proc'd velidreth is a waste of DPS. I play melee primarily, and I still avoid the majority of those spores.
This set is the best for a melee nb that does not use DoT's. You can control the spores proc very easily. If anyone uses DoTs like Caltrops or Poison Inj players are gonna waste the proc more often then not.Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on 9 September 2016 21:16PS4 NA DC0 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerfJust wanted to add my opinion on the set. I think the damage and cooldown should be cut in half. Its just too much burst.PS4 NA DC0 -
Erock25✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerfGreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: ».Strider_Roshin wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol
When you're blocking, maybe. What does "not in general" mean though? Are you saying that once it hit you for 3k but not in general. I've got about 67 points into hardy and 5 gold impen pieces just fyi and it hits me for 6k+.
I wasn't blocking, and this was in my death recap. The only time I've seen it in my death recap actually. I've seen it plenty of times in Cyrodiil though, but the spores are pretty easy to avoid for the most part.
For the most part it is literally impossable to avoid them because one of them spawns right on top of you.
If they are immediately in your face at the time of activation, yes. However, PvP involves a lot of dodging, and distance fighting. During these moments, a proc'd velidreth is a waste of DPS. I play melee primarily, and I still avoid the majority of those spores.
This set is the best for a melee nb that does not use DoT's. You can control the spores proc very easily. If anyone uses DoTs like Hurricane or Poison Inj players are gonna waste the proc more often then not.
Don't have the set myself but veli seems to work just fine for fengrush with hurricane running.You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerfGreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: ».Strider_Roshin wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol
When you're blocking, maybe. What does "not in general" mean though? Are you saying that once it hit you for 3k but not in general. I've got about 67 points into hardy and 5 gold impen pieces just fyi and it hits me for 6k+.
I wasn't blocking, and this was in my death recap. The only time I've seen it in my death recap actually. I've seen it plenty of times in Cyrodiil though, but the spores are pretty easy to avoid for the most part.
For the most part it is literally impossable to avoid them because one of them spawns right on top of you.
If they are immediately in your face at the time of activation, yes. However, PvP involves a lot of dodging, and distance fighting. During these moments, a proc'd velidreth is a waste of DPS. I play melee primarily, and I still avoid the majority of those spores.
This set is the best for a melee nb that does not use DoT's. You can control the spores proc very easily. If anyone uses DoTs like Hurricane or Poison Inj players are gonna waste the proc more often then not.
Don't have the set myself but veli seems to work just fine for fengrush with hurricane running.
He poisitions accordingly.. maybe hurricane was a bad example (ill edit it out). Say if you had caltrops on a group of enemys, you could proc Velidrith at the wrong moment is all im getting at.
Its a set where you dont want to be doing any DoT damage. You always wanna make sure you get proc when you are hitting someone in melee range.Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on 9 September 2016 21:18PS4 NA DC0 -
Strider_Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »Just wanted to add my opinion on the set. I think the damage and cooldown should be cut in half. Its just too much burst.
I don't think it's that bad. I use it for PvE; other than that it collects dust.0 -
MalakithAlamahdi✭✭✭✭✭Hankrabbit wrote: »Yes it is completely overpowered especially combined with other proc-sets like viper, red mountain or widowmaker.
I tested the Viper-Velidreth-Widowmaker Combo and created a video. All of the kills are from 2 days of pvp. 50k Alliance Points per hour solo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQtRKdOiho4
Care to share your build? Still got a stamina NB i don't do anything with lol Ganking seems like something fun to try out.0 -
Destyran✭✭✭✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerfYes valkyn and nireneth have lower proc rates and kess damage but this is 20%!!!!!!!! And waaay more damage. I have seen some on one shot a kid with caltrops and lucky procs0
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Waffennacht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's kinda messed up. Engine guardian does nothing offensively, has no way of ending the battle yet has only a 10% proc rate. But this set can end the match and has a higher proc rate.
I want this set just cuz it gives builds that lack offense a way to kill. Not the biggest fan of the mad stacking dmg and proc sets.0 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerfWaffennacht wrote: »It's kinda messed up. Engine guardian does nothing offensively, has no way of ending the battle yet has only a 10% proc rate. But this set can end the match and has a higher proc rate.
I want this set just cuz it gives builds that lack offense a way to kill. Not the biggest fan of the mad stacking dmg and proc sets.
thie problem in this set is now because dodger going in max susin in medium armor for example, no weapon dmg etc, max stam regen etc and now...he lack with damage but have very great sustain, just like tank but with other way and now he is getting this set, can combine it with viper/red mountain and now...on max sustain without damage stacked he hiting by maybe 4k criticaly surprise attack, wait for set proc, 6k+ velidreth + 4-6k+ viper/red mountain if have it aslo.
high burst for someone without stack weapon damage....very good sustain build who normally shouldnt have to easy way to kill somone because of balance...sustain or dps.
now thanks these sets someone with max sustain is going to have also burst like ganger...just wait few seconds to proc sets together, sustain and very high burst at once.....where is *** balance?
maybe just buff more heavy armor tanks for balance, give more weapon /spell dmg buff in heavy armor to be like these medium armor wearers...
also light armor, more more resist to this pl0x, need more balance.
no any other build like this on stamina can have sustain like tank and burst like glass cannon in 1.....
EDIT: for this balance we need sets like veli, viper or red mountain also on magica builds, on light armor and on heavy armor because now it is sickEdited by Edziu on 10 September 2016 19:220 -
Bryanonymous✭✭✭✭✭People have weird ideas about the word balance in this game. Pretty much anything could be added and you'd have people claiming it is balanced. Nothin in the game is balanced. They purposely make an imbalance so they can continue to run a grind treadmill. It's pretty obvious.2
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Lexxypwns✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerfStrider_Roshin wrote: »Sandman929 wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »@Strider_Roshin you have it but decided to lie and say it only hits for 3k? I do not understand.
It hits me for a little over 3k. Not in general. I do have 82 points into hardy, 20 into resistance, with 6 gold inpen pieces though. Maybe you're just not properly prepared to deal with it like I am. Oh, and I'm also a Nord lol
Sounds like you're not properly prepared to deal with RD.
With 75 points into elemental defender on top of the previous resistances mentioned; it sounds like RD needs to get its damage adjusted.
Sounds like you need more points in thick skinned, RD is a DoT. This is a l2p issue for sure1 -
Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerf
you can also add to this viper or/and together red mountain of, 5x on armor and 3x jewerly and 2x dual
my velidreth tooltip is 12k, viper 8k, red mountain around 10k, now add this all with all will proc together, just enough is additional viper for this combo
EDIT: and it wasn't just any random noob with no cp btwEdited by Edziu on 11 September 2016 02:470 -
Erock25✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerf
you can also add to this viper or/and together red mountain of, 5x on armor and 3x jewerly and 2x dual
my velidreth tooltip is 12k, viper 8k, red mountain around 10k, now add this all with all will proc together, just enough is additional viper for this combo
EDIT: and it wasn't just any random noob with no cp btw
@Edziu what affects viper/veli tool tip? I thought that was part of the issue, that with low weapon power and offensive stats, these procs still hit hard. What are they actually scaling on?You earned the 500 LOLs badge.
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Edziu✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerf
you can also add to this viper or/and together red mountain of, 5x on armor and 3x jewerly and 2x dual
my velidreth tooltip is 12k, viper 8k, red mountain around 10k, now add this all with all will proc together, just enough is additional viper for this combo
EDIT: and it wasn't just any random noob with no cp btw
@Edziu what affects viper/veli tool tip? I thought that was part of the issue, that with low weapon power and offensive stats, these procs still hit hard. What are they actually scaling on?
and tested this tooltip, this dont changin with weapon dmg buffs, with wearing hunding or other set without wepaon power....for me tooltip is nonstop same for set, rest is changing in combat, so as now I see I have mistaken some with red mountain, this isnt better daamge than viper
but now.....
almost 13k tooltip on veli with 10k crit hit on pvp while 6.5k crit with surpsie attack, so then viper and red mountain should also hit for 6-7k with these tooltips if it will strike with crit or mayve 3-4k with noncrit....is this then not to op burst when it proc all in around 2-3 seconds?0 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes it's dumb and needs nerf
you can also add to this viper or/and together red mountain of, 5x on armor and 3x jewerly and 2x dual
my velidreth tooltip is 12k, viper 8k, red mountain around 10k, now add this all with all will proc together, just enough is additional viper for this combo
EDIT: and it wasn't just any random noob with no cp btw
@Edziu what affects viper/veli tool tip? I thought that was part of the issue, that with low weapon power and offensive stats, these procs still hit hard. What are they actually scaling on?
and tested this tooltip, this dont changin with weapon dmg buffs, with wearing hunding or other set without wepaon power....for me tooltip is nonstop same for set, rest is changing in combat, so as now I see I have mistaken some with red mountain, this isnt better daamge than viper but now.....
almost 13k tooltip on veli with 10k crit hit on pvp while 6.5k crit with surpsie attack, so then viper and red mountain should also hit for 6-7k with these tooltips if it will strike with crit or mayve 3-4k with noncrit....is this then not to op burst when it proc all in around 2-3 seconds?
From my experience, yes, that's too high.
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