Update 12 Breaking News

BenLocoDete

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I'm not going to be happy if there is no AP gained for winning duels. If not AP, there needs to be SOME tangible reward.

The first thing that comes to my mind is people selling whatever "tangible reward" before the fight starts, like having a guildie/friend beat you purposely or another account so you can beat yourself until you're satisfied with your gains.

I'd guess the sole purpose of dueling is to fight and test yourself and your opponent, any other gains are to be minimal or symbolic i.e. achievements and ranks like 'yourname' "the duelist".

linoge63

As kinda of a noob carebear rogue player...the added CP level will help with handling PVE mobs. I hope they add special areas for those of you that have advanced abilities so that they dont make pve mobs more difficult for us with less skills.

Cheers

Glamdring

linoge63 wrote: »

As kinda of a noob carebear rogue player...the added CP level will help with handle PVE mobs. I hope they add special areas for those of you that have advanced abilities so that they dont make pve mobs more difficult for us with less skills.

Cheers

pve outside some trials and vetdungeons have been ridicolously nerfed to the ground. This game is so easy now its a joke

CJohnson81

Wolfshead wrote: »

Well atlest update 12 look alot better then update 11 are just hope we get some content as well in update 12 that is more then the 2 dungeon we got in update 11 ^^ and by new content i dont mean "reuse, revamp, update" dungeons

Remember that no one has mentioned a price tag for this. I think it's because it's a major FREE overhaul. Sure it's not a DLC, but there is tons of new playability coming. I see it as a really sweet deal. I don't think gift is the right word, but seriously, it's like a year's worth of work put into a jam packed update. I'm totally cool without a DLC for one fiscal quarter if it entails this number of QOL updates.

linoge63

Glamdring wrote: »

linoge63 wrote: »

As kinda of a noob carebear rogue player...the added CP level will help with handle PVE mobs. I hope they add special areas for those of you that have advanced abilities so that they dont make pve mobs more difficult for us with less skills.

Cheers

pve outside some trials and vetdungeons have been ridicolously nerfed to the ground. This game is so easy now its a joke

Those bloody trials ! ...argh.

Re the rest being a joke..umm...like i said for those of you with advanced abilities etc, i guess is, but if its upped in difficulty i will go from smilin to frowning

karakondzula

I bet they gonna break the game with dueling, and have a week long maintenance.

Carokube

Gonna start drawing out my PVE guild duel brackets right now...

jcaceresw

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I'm not going to be happy if there is no AP gained for winning duels. If not AP, there needs to be SOME tangible reward.

Agree on tangible rewards but no AP. That would be a easy way to level up your PVP rank considering dueling is to be done outside Cyrodiil.

jcaceresw

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

That's it ? That's a whole update ? Where's the new content ?

I believe giving each dungeon a normal and veteran quests and remaking craglorn are enough content for me.

Potenza

jcaceresw wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I'm not going to be happy if there is no AP gained for winning duels. If not AP, there needs to be SOME tangible reward.

Agree on tangible rewards but no AP. That would be a easy way to level up your PVP rank considering dueling is to be done outside Cyrodiil.

I think there should be no rewards at all for dueling. Too easy to abuse - two friends dueling to level up whatever reward is given.

potirondb16_ESO

j.murro2ub17_ESO wrote: »

jcaceresw wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I'm not going to be happy if there is no AP gained for winning duels. If not AP, there needs to be SOME tangible reward.

Agree on tangible rewards but no AP. That would be a easy way to level up your PVP rank considering dueling is to be done outside Cyrodiil.

I think there should be no rewards at all for dueling. Too easy to abuse - two friends dueling to level up whatever reward is given.

Kind of agree, if not it will end-up with a timer because some player can REALLY uses bug/exploit

moiraleafcull

code65536 wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

That's it ? That's a whole update ? Where's the new content ?

LOL, this is the biggest overhaul of the base game since... ever, and you ask, "That's it?"

mmm...one might argue getting rid of Vet levels was...
One Tamriel seems relatively mundane in comparison to the impact of CPs/Vet level removal given re-gearing/respecing.

alexkdd99

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

Also gamble boxes. Update 12 is adding those to the crown store, because when they promised us, "no lockboxes," what they really meant was, "until we get bored."

what they really meant was until we need to make more money I have no problem with that, that's what they are in business to do, hate to say it people spend ridiculous amounts of money on these things, just another avenue for revenue, and how long ago did they say no lockboxes, was that before the game went buy to play ? Paul Sage maybe, anything said before the payment model change is out the window, I am still expecting them to announce at pax this is also the free to play patch, no longer need to buy the client which is dirt cheap now.

With dueling the forums are going to be lit up with so many new nerf threads, going to be the popcorn event of the year,,LOL

I was going to buy eso through the xbox live store in order not to have to keep up with my disc. I quickly changed my mind when I saw that it was still $59.

So while I can go buy the physical copy at gamestop for very little the digital still cost full amount which is a little ridiculous imo. I was willing to re-buy the game for up to 30$ just for a little convenience but definitely not for the full release price.

Not sure what the cost are on other platforms but I would assume that they are the same for ps4 if not for all platforms.

snakester320

LeifErickson wrote: »

I am so sick of cp. If the cp cap keeps increasing like this, pve content is going to be stupid easy and pvp duels will never end.

my argument with the cp is why keep increasing it.. its a good idea the game can never end as such just keep grinding just keep grinding.. get to 1000cp or 10000 cp and a new player is who just hits 50 is going to say lmfao 1000cp or 10000 to grind yeah right!! Are that actively trying to *** off new players!! im only 218cp and yeah so what i dont mind the grind BUT if i started playing say few days ago got to 50 and then had 100Ocp or more to grind to !!

RoyJade

snakester320 wrote: »

my argument with the cp is why keep increasing it.. its a good idea the game can never end as such just keep grinding just keep grinding.. get to 1000cp or 10000 cp and a new player is who just hits 50 is going to say lmfao 1000cp or 10000 to grind yeah right!! Are that actively trying to *** off new players!! im only 218cp and yeah so what i dont mind the grind BUT if i started playing say few days ago got to 50 and then had 100Ocp or more to grind to !!

I think you forget a point : each cp don't need the same xp, the less cp you have the less xp you need for the next one. And the xp needed in order to get all cp before cap is the same each time they give us more cp.
You need actually exactly the same amount of xp in order to grind the 531 first cp than you need for the first 501 one before SotH patch ; and you'll still need the same amount with OT patch for 561 cp. Nothing change for you, excepted a faster progression (since cp still give the same bonus whenever the cap is).

Dubhliam

Also, the maximum possible CP is 3600.

NewbieOKS

https://youtu.be/d0WiKKyekV4

mitchtheelder

Bravo ZOS. Didnt think I will ever say this lol :-)

JudahXBL

LeifErickson wrote: »

I am so sick of cp. If the cp cap keeps increasing like this, pve content is going to be stupid easy and pvp duels will never end.

This is why I play exclusively on Azura's Star. I honestly wouldn't even mind if they made CPs 50% less effective on PVP, like they did with healing.

RandalMarrs

JudahXBL wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I am so sick of cp. If the cp cap keeps increasing like this, pve content is going to be stupid easy and pvp duels will never end.

This is why I play exclusively on Azura's Star. I honestly wouldn't even mind if they made CPs 50% less effective on PVP, like they did with healing.

The funny thing is, as much as people complain about cp, when I go to the no cp campaign it is usually quite vacant.

STEVIL

snakester320 wrote: »

LeifErickson wrote: »

I am so sick of cp. If the cp cap keeps increasing like this, pve content is going to be stupid easy and pvp duels will never end.

my argument with the cp is why keep increasing it.. its a good idea the game can never end as such just keep grinding just keep grinding.. get to 1000cp or 10000 cp and a new player is who just hits 50 is going to say lmfao 1000cp or 10000 to grind yeah right!! Are that actively trying to *** off new players!! im only 218cp and yeah so what i dont mind the grind BUT if i started playing say few days ago got to 50 and then had 100Ocp or more to grind to !!

Lets see

Current cp is 531
Looks like it will go to 561.
If they keep at pace of 30 per quarter or 120 per year they woll reach 999ish range in FOUR YEARS.

FOUR YEARS ago game didnt exist.
TWO years ago iirc vet levels didnt exist, much less cp which then joined and replaced them.

So, given the second 500 cp wont buy as much as the first 500 due to diminishing returns and intelligent prioritization... i gotta say... any top 25 worries list i have about what the game will have problems with in another FOUR YEARS doesnt include worries about the second 500 pts of increase of the cp cap.

As for anybdiscussion of dofficuty of open, casual, repeatsble solo ease...i want to see how OneT impacts that before getting fretful.

SHADOW2KK

juhasman wrote: »

Chori wrote: »

Update 12 please bring DX12 Support!

And DX 9 again

Lol wut?

Seriously?, DX 9 is absolutely fossilised, even DX 11 has been out for ages too.

Anyone who still uses win xp and crap dx9 should seriously upgrade their rigs, why should everyone else have to suffer cos some gamers cant get a half decent relatively modern rig.

Keep up with the times or fall behind.

ku5h

Just imagine how many "Wanna duel me bro...?" forum warriors we'r gonna get when this hits live,
Can't wait..

p.s. Love the implementation of duels.

PrinceBoru

ZOS should take cue from Ubisoft.
The Division dlc is delayed until core game is fixed.
What a concept!

Drakoleon

Everything looks and sounds very promising with this update. I don't care about 1vs1 tho cause if i want to play PVP o go to Cyrolag.......
Btw what worries me the most are the technical issues lag bugs exploits etc. Any news there? Didn't see anything about that, am i missing something ?

Doctordarkspawn

moiraleafcull wrote: »

code65536 wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

That's it ? That's a whole update ? Where's the new content ?

LOL, this is the biggest overhaul of the base game since... ever, and you ask, "That's it?"

mmm...one might argue getting rid of Vet levels was...
One Tamriel seems relatively mundane in comparison to the impact of CPs/Vet level removal given re-gearing/respecing.

The removal of vet levels was cerimony only.

They had become so hollow and meaningless a barrier that when they were removed it was more the removal of formality. We get everything we had with them with less unnecessary grinding, it didn't revolutionize the game it just streamlined it. This will change how trade is done, how grouping is done, how dailies are done. The barriers between factional economies, independent trade, grouping, are removed and the pledge systems will be overhauled. The ammount this changes, mostly because of how the playerbase will react to more opportunity, is far greater. There is no question.

Doctordarkspawn

PrinceBoru wrote: »

ZOS should take cue from Ubisoft.
The Division dlc is delayed until core game is fixed.
What a concept!

The division had far less wrong with it.

Silver_Strider

While OT sounds like it will introduce a lot of content (even if a lot seem like just revamping old content) and while I'm all for the majority of it (f*** off with your lottery bag) I'm going in with my Tin foil hat firmly on because I can already see all the glitches, bugs, etc. that are to be expected with ZOS

"Battle Spirit still affecting me after dueling. Game breaking bug, video attached"

"*Insert X Dungeon here* is broken. "

"Dueling in cities has to stop"

I could go on about the number of topics that'll start up after OT is released. I'd better stock up on popcorn cause that is going to be fun.

altemriel

LeifErickson wrote: »

I am so sick of cp. If the cp cap keeps increasing like this, pve content is going to be stupid easy and pvp duels will never end.

wait no, from Update 12, all the content will scale to your level, so it will not be easy, but right at your level, as far as I know

altemriel

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

That's it ? That's a whole update ? Where's the new content ?

check this out:
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2016/08/23/gamescom-2016-recap-update-12-and-one-tamriel

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/821/feature/11088/Elder-Scrolls-Online-Dungeon-Improvements-Making-Content-Accessible-to-All.html