Update 12 Breaking News

JJBoomer

I am quite excited. There is almost nothing i don't like coming with update 12. Idk if i'll engage in duels, but i like that it'll be there as an extra layer of activity.

The ONLY thing i oppose is the "lockboxes". Because that is, no matter how its sugar coated or "cosmetic only" is pure money grabbing. STO did this and it was awful. So i'm a little disappointed to see them do this and it does rather worry me about the financial state ZOS may be in if they need to resort to THAT.

Enodoc

Darlon wrote: »

when counting dungeons I get up to 28. (Counting Elden, wayrest etc twice, since they have 2 'chapters')

Yeah, but 12 of those already have monster sets, and 16 of them don't. The oddity is that they keep saying 17 when there are only 16 base Normal dungeons. Maybe, as someone already said, this means a new story for one of the base dungeons which doesn't have a Vet mode yet?

dem0n1k

Awesome news on a the dueling! No more riding all the way across Cyrodiil to the duel spot with an Alt you are not familiar with. Update 12 is lookin' sweeet!

Curragraigue

Enodoc wrote: »

Darlon wrote: »

when counting dungeons I get up to 28. (Counting Elden, wayrest etc twice, since they have 2 'chapters')

Yeah, but 12 of those already have monster sets, and 16 of them don't. The oddity is that they keep saying 17 when there are only 16 base Normal dungeons. Maybe, as someone already said, this means a new story for one of the base dungeons which doesn't have a Vet mode yet?

Arx Corinium so they have Vet Dungeon stories for the first three zones maybe

starkerealm

Curragraigue wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Darlon wrote: »

when counting dungeons I get up to 28. (Counting Elden, wayrest etc twice, since they have 2 'chapters')

Yeah, but 12 of those already have monster sets, and 16 of them don't. The oddity is that they keep saying 17 when there are only 16 base Normal dungeons. Maybe, as someone already said, this means a new story for one of the base dungeons which doesn't have a Vet mode yet?

Arx Corinium so they have Vet Dungeon stories for the first three zones maybe

If that was the case, you'd think they'd lead with that, though.

"Oh, hey, so, vet version of Arx Corinium!" Then go into the other stuff. Maybe someone can't count?

Curragraigue

starkerealm wrote: »

Curragraigue wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

Darlon wrote: »

when counting dungeons I get up to 28. (Counting Elden, wayrest etc twice, since they have 2 'chapters')

Yeah, but 12 of those already have monster sets, and 16 of them don't. The oddity is that they keep saying 17 when there are only 16 base Normal dungeons. Maybe, as someone already said, this means a new story for one of the base dungeons which doesn't have a Vet mode yet?

Arx Corinium so they have Vet Dungeon stories for the first three zones maybe

If that was the case, you'd think they'd lead with that, though.

"Oh, hey, so, vet version of Arx Corinium!" Then go into the other stuff. Maybe someone can't count?

True probably my wishful thinking. I guess they could be leaving a secret for hype closer to release

burglar

Isn't dueling going to affect the cyrodiil population in a negative way? Still no justice system, either? All I've been doing is dailies, hoping that they will improve or implement some interesting element to PvP, but no... its just more dungeons and PvE population stuff. Nerf PvE updates!!!

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I'm not going to be happy if there is no AP gained for winning duels. If not AP, there needs to be SOME tangible reward.

First off, who cares if you're happy or not. Second, why would one be rewarded for dueling? The essence of dueling is a reward in and of itself; being able to fight another player under controlled conditions that you get to specify.

Cryptical

Ffastyl wrote: »

OH MY TUSKING GOD, WEAPON ULTIMATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes, by malacath's razor tusk, there will be weapon ultimates.

IxskullzxI

juhasman wrote: »

IxskullzxI wrote: »

Weapon ults huh? I bet magicka gets shafted here too.

Destro staff ulti : Wall of elements have increased size by 1 meter for 15 seconds
2 handed ulti : Wrecking blow does not have cast time for 15 seconds

(just trolling)

Wouldn't surprise me lol. Hopefully they have a magicka morph for 1h/s, 2h, dual weild, etc. Would open up some more options.

Dracane

cazlonb16_ESO wrote: »

I hope they thought ahead for once and there'll be an auto decline option for duels.

You just know what will happen otherwise: Hordes of morons spamming you with duel invites while standing at the bank, pledge npcs, etc.

They said at some point, that duelling will be disabled in towns and that it will only be possible in the wilderness. I don't know, if this is still the case. But I think so.
Most people in big cities are cowardly pve noobs anyway. So challenging anyone there will only result in decline.

I am more concerned about the removal of gold keys. So I guess I can stop farming them now ?

luen79rwb17_ESO

Totally dissapointed with the gambling boxes... It's a terrible design and a bad sign... ESO getting closer to the F2P, "freemium" MMOS... Not good at all, not even if it's "only" cosmetic (for now...). Crown store sales would be alot higher if some things weren't so utterly overpriced to begin with, and boosting sales through gambling is only gonna hold back even more people... Not planning to spend not even 1 crown on this lame feature either.

On the other hand, I'm very excited for One Tamriel, Craglorn redesign, new undaunted stuff (love that guild!) and weapon ultis! Gj on all this ZOS!

Dracane

Cinbri wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

And OMG @ Craglorn. So I can finally finish the story after 2 years now where you no longer require 4 players ahaha relieved.

No, it means after 2 years we could group up and finish it together.

No. So far, the last quest required 4 players to have the same progress in the quest line.
That was so stupid. that many people never finished it. Now I no longer have to group and can finally finish it myself and be done with it already. Why group for things that don't require a group O.o that's beyond me.

disintegr8

*** hum, I assume group finder will still be broken.....
... stupid American slang filter completely ruined a perferctly normal saying, I'll try hoe hum then..

llSRRll

Soundwave wrote: »

Dazza1968 wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I'm not going to be happy if there is no AP gained for winning duels. If not AP, there needs to be SOME tangible reward.

I think dueling should be purely for bragging rights and not for AP gains, just my 2 cents worth.

Should do 1v1 arena bases on cp, have a que system, with leader board. Or even a fight club, where others can come watch the blood bath. I love sitting back and watching others duel it while sitting deep in the bush.

It would be cool if they made it in the Thizzrini Arena in Reapers March, I liked that quest line.

Enodoc

Dracane wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

And OMG @ Craglorn. So I can finally finish the story after 2 years now where you no longer require 4 players ahaha relieved.

No, it means after 2 years we could group up and finish it together.

No. So far, the last quest required 4 players to have the same progress in the quest line.

That requirement has been gone since Update 5. You've always needed 4 players, but since November 2014 they could be any 4 players, whether they have the quest or not.

Dracane

Enodoc wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Cinbri wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

And OMG @ Craglorn. So I can finally finish the story after 2 years now where you no longer require 4 players ahaha relieved.

No, it means after 2 years we could group up and finish it together.

No. So far, the last quest required 4 players to have the same progress in the quest line.

That requirement has been gone since Update 5. You've always needed 4 players, but since November 2014 they could be any 4 players, whether they have the quest or not.

Has it really been so long since I last played Craglorn ?
However. 1 player is still better than being in need for 4 players ^^

Chori

Update 12 please bring DX12 Support!

Paulington

I was at the tavern and wanted to weigh in quickly.

Yes, it is SEVENTEEN new monster sets. Every single dungeon now has a normal and veteran version.

You can do three Undaunted pledges per day which means (if you do the hard mode for each) six keys every single day and six helms. However, the chests you open are SEPARATE. Basically if you want a Molag Kena shoulder, you only open the "DLC" chest with your keys and only DLC monster shoulders drop out of that chest. This allows you to focus on the particular set you want a bit more.

There are 30 new sets that drop in the main zones, three per zone. They have repurposed/redesigned some existing sets and added them too but it is 30 new + a few repurposed old stuff. The starter zone of each Alliance (such as Bleakrock/Bal Foyen) only drop ONE set and that set has max health/stam/magicka bonuses plus ONLY drops in training trait to help players move forward in their gameplay.

Duelling can be done ANYWHERE in the overworld, yes that includes the middle of Mournhold. There is more info (some of it very juicy, I promise) being revealed at PAX by Wheeler. . Duelling includes all Cyrodiil restrictions i.e. you still gain the battle spirit debuff when duelling.

Some sets have been moved, such as Viper set drops in Fungal Grotto instead.

Lastly (that I can think of) U12 comes to PTS in the first or second week of September for an October release.

Any more questions feel free to ask, will try to remember it all!

pecheckler

but are they going to fix the group finder?

Sotha_Sil

Paulington wrote: »

I was at the tavern and wanted to weigh in quickly.

Yes, it is SEVENTEEN new monster sets. Every single dungeon now has a normal and veteran version.

You can do three Undaunted pledges per day which means (if you do the hard mode for each) six keys every single day and six helms. However, the chests you open are SEPARATE. Basically if you want a Molag Kena shoulder, you only open the "DLC" chest with your keys and only DLC monster shoulders drop out of that chest. This allows you to focus on the particular set you want a bit more.

There are 30 new sets that drop in the main zones, three per zone. They have repurposed/redesigned some existing sets and added them too but it is 30 new + a few repurposed old stuff. The starter zone of each Alliance (such as Bleakrock/Bal Foyen) only drop ONE set and that set has max health/stam/magicka bonuses plus ONLY drops in training trait to help players move forward in their gameplay.

Duelling can be done ANYWHERE in the overworld, yes that includes the middle of Mournhold. There is more info (some of it very juicy, I promise) being revealed at PAX by Wheeler. . Duelling includes all Cyrodiil restrictions i.e. you still gain the battle spirit debuff when duelling.

Some sets have been moved, such as Viper set drops in Fungal Grotto instead.

Lastly (that I can think of) U12 comes to PTS in the first or second week of September for an October release.

Any more questions feel free to ask, will try to remember it all!

Thank you. I have a question : As far as I understand from everything else that has been said everywhere, there will be no DLC on this update which means that we can say goodbye to a new zone until next year ? #Vvardenfell/ClockworkCity/Murkmire

Jaronking

Sotha_Sil wrote: »

Paulington wrote: »

I was at the tavern and wanted to weigh in quickly.

Yes, it is SEVENTEEN new monster sets. Every single dungeon now has a normal and veteran version.

You can do three Undaunted pledges per day which means (if you do the hard mode for each) six keys every single day and six helms. However, the chests you open are SEPARATE. Basically if you want a Molag Kena shoulder, you only open the "DLC" chest with your keys and only DLC monster shoulders drop out of that chest. This allows you to focus on the particular set you want a bit more.

There are 30 new sets that drop in the main zones, three per zone. They have repurposed/redesigned some existing sets and added them too but it is 30 new + a few repurposed old stuff. The starter zone of each Alliance (such as Bleakrock/Bal Foyen) only drop ONE set and that set has max health/stam/magicka bonuses plus ONLY drops in training trait to help players move forward in their gameplay.

Duelling can be done ANYWHERE in the overworld, yes that includes the middle of Mournhold. There is more info (some of it very juicy, I promise) being revealed at PAX by Wheeler. . Duelling includes all Cyrodiil restrictions i.e. you still gain the battle spirit debuff when duelling.

Some sets have been moved, such as Viper set drops in Fungal Grotto instead.

Lastly (that I can think of) U12 comes to PTS in the first or second week of September for an October release.

Any more questions feel free to ask, will try to remember it all!

Thank you. I have a question : As far as I understand from everything else that has been said everywhere, there will be no DLC on this update which means that we can say goodbye to a new zone until next year ?

What do you mean their is new content new vet dungeons and dueling that's new content while yes we are not getting new zones we are given much more in regards to things to do in the game.From the sounds of this update 13 is adding more stuff than all the other updates combine.

Jaronking

Paulington wrote: »

I was at the tavern and wanted to weigh in quickly.

Yes, it is SEVENTEEN new monster sets. Every single dungeon now has a normal and veteran version.

You can do three Undaunted pledges per day which means (if you do the hard mode for each) six keys every single day and six helms. However, the chests you open are SEPARATE. Basically if you want a Molag Kena shoulder, you only open the "DLC" chest with your keys and only DLC monster shoulders drop out of that chest. This allows you to focus on the particular set you want a bit more.

There are 30 new sets that drop in the main zones, three per zone. They have repurposed/redesigned some existing sets and added them too but it is 30 new + a few repurposed old stuff. The starter zone of each Alliance (such as Bleakrock/Bal Foyen) only drop ONE set and that set has max health/stam/magicka bonuses plus ONLY drops in training trait to help players move forward in their gameplay.

Duelling can be done ANYWHERE in the overworld, yes that includes the middle of Mournhold. There is more info (some of it very juicy, I promise) being revealed at PAX by Wheeler. . Duelling includes all Cyrodiil restrictions i.e. you still gain the battle spirit debuff when duelling.

Some sets have been moved, such as Viper set drops in Fungal Grotto instead.

Lastly (that I can think of) U12 comes to PTS in the first or second week of September for an October release.

Any more questions feel free to ask, will try to remember it all!

Will those 30 sets be able to drop in impen or are they removed from their.I know with update 12 impen will be added to dungeons sets so am not sure about open world sets.

TX12001rwb17_ESO

Payday_Massacre wrote: »

Emma_Overload wrote: »

I'm not going to be happy if there is no AP gained for winning duels. If not AP, there needs to be SOME tangible reward.

Yeah, would be interesting if you could make an AP wager prior to the duel commencing. It shouldn't be up to the devs to reward the victors. Should be up to the users, who plan on using the function, to provide the reward...imo.

And I can just picture how people will exploit that, friends will just wager all their AP and help each other become emperor.

E-Zekiel

Cinbri wrote: »

Wow, I hope it will be possible to duel without CP system in PvE.

This. A million times, this.

NBrookus

juhasman wrote: »

And if You'll consider 17 new monster sets and 3 sets on each of 17 PvE non DLC maps scaled to Your lv when You loot them that gives 68 new game end sets to testing. Lot of theorycrafting and diversity. Update 12 will be no payment required also.

Are we sure these are 68 new armor sets? Or are they upscaling the sets that already dropped in those zones, like Soulshine or Way of the Air?

Iduyenn

OMG THe Dungeon in coldharbor will get a vet mode too?????

DocFrost72

olsborg wrote: »

Is the undaunted daily quest soloable?? Someone?

With a good build and a steady hand all the silver pledges are soloable right now. Save direfrost, cause pressure plates.

The Uninvited

Iduyenn wrote: »

OMG THe Dungeon in coldharbor will get a vet mode too?????

Yes. And even better... It won't cost you any rupees at all.

Cinbri

@Paulington
does dueling inside faction will be possible?
I bet Akatosh Armor will be finally reworked?
I starving about PvP leaks.

RoyJade

For those who are afraid of emp farming if we gain AP with duel : we won't be in a campaign, so we won't gain AP for the leaderboard even if we gain some AP