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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Get that garbage outta here, report all cheats over and over all day every day

Dirty_Digs
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If you run into someone and they have better resistance, unlimited blocking, super high damage, crazy self heals, macro combos up that wazzu, never ending stats through wolverine like regeneration, the ability to dodge roll forever, ulti's that charge too fast, and everyone around them just dies one by one.....that player is cheating. Please report them until whatever they do is found out. It's nice that the players who wanted to go out with a bang are kicked...but what about all the players who tweak the system so that they are demi-gods on the battlefield but are not obviously cheating? It's sad how far they go to lie and hide there exploits even though any skilled player can easily tell they are not playing fair. I wonder how many honest players have left the game because they thought they were doing something wrong but in fact they were probably one of the best legit players. It gets really hard to play a game where you can spend uncounted hours to craft the best builds and gear just to be outclassed by a cheater. I'm so tired of classes and abilities that got the nerf because a few hacks couldn't just play a game and had to cheat it. This is an ego issue and players who want to 1vX players but know that it cant be done if they are up against maxed out, top gear champ capped opponents. I can take on a few players if they aren't that good and I can tell they don't have awesome builds I do it all the time, but simple math makes it almost impossible to take on 4 or 5 players who have the same stats and capabilities, especially in the open field. Extra points if 4 or 5 EP are dropping ulits and just wrecking a DC, but then the DC just macro's them down one at a time while blocking and healing all incoming damage....yeah right...get that garbage outta here. Those players are only earning the respect and awe of noobs who don't know any better, and it turns out that the emperor has no clothes.
  • Bramir
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    Dirty_Digs wrote: »
    If you run into someone and they have better resistance, unlimited blocking, super high damage, crazy self heals, macro combos up that wazzu, never ending stats through wolverine like regeneration, the ability to dodge roll forever, ulti's that charge too fast, and everyone around them just dies one by one.....that player is cheating. Please report them until whatever they do is found out. It's nice that the players who wanted to go out with a bang are kicked...but what about all the players who tweak the system so that they are demi-gods on the battlefield but are not obviously cheating? It's sad how far they go to lie and hide there exploits even though any skilled player can easily tell they are not playing fair. I wonder how many honest players have left the game because they thought they were doing something wrong but in fact they were probably one of the best legit players. It gets really hard to play a game where you can spend uncounted hours to craft the best builds and gear just to be outclassed by a cheater. I'm so tired of classes and abilities that got the nerf because a few hacks couldn't just play a game and had to cheat it. This is an ego issue and players who want to 1vX players but know that it cant be done if they are up against maxed out, top gear champ capped opponents. I can take on a few players if they aren't that good and I can tell they don't have awesome builds I do it all the time, but simple math makes it almost impossible to take on 4 or 5 players who have the same stats and capabilities, especially in the open field. Extra points if 4 or 5 EP are dropping ulits and just wrecking a DC, but then the DC just macro's them down one at a time while blocking and healing all incoming damage....yeah right...get that garbage outta here. Those players are only earning the respect and awe of noobs who don't know any better, and it turns out that the emperor has no clothes.

    I don't think it is actually that bad, but yeah, I can't get the possibility out of my mind that lots of players were using the cheats to give themselves less obvious bonuses. Apparently this has been around for awhile and nothing was done about it...
  • Reevster
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    The worst is the not knowing, i mean I die many many times and dont think twice, get back up again and head into the fray , but , sometimes if it dont feel right it just might not be, untill ZOS can tell us 100 percent they can block this CE then there is anyways going to be doubt on some of these guys, sadly.
  • GlassHalfFull
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    A while back in history, they invented a thing called paragraphs, you should try use using a few in your post.
    Curiosity is the cure for boredom, there is no cure for curiosity.
  • yodased
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    Dirty_Digs wrote: »

    If you run into someone (<- noclip players.)

    and they have:

    better resistance (<- no)

    unlimited blocking (<- depends, maybe.)

    super high damage (<- also depends)

    crazy self heals (<- templar, but also depends)

    macro combos up that wazzu (<- this is not cheating, its whack as ***, but not cheating)

    never ending stats through wolverine like regeneration (<- yeah this is cheating.)

    the ability to dodge roll forever ( <- yup)

    ulti's that charge too fast (<- unless S+b "of the dragon' then yup.)

    and everyone around them just dies one by one (<- depends, there are a lot of bad players out there.)

    that player is cheating. (<- in like 20% of your examples, maybe)

    Please report them until whatever they do is found out. <- sure, report if you think they are cheating.

    It's nice that the players who wanted to go out with a bang are kicked...but what about all the players who tweak the system so that they are demi-gods on the battlefield but are not obviously cheating?

    It's sad how far they go to lie and hide there exploits even though any skilled player can easily tell they are not playing fair. I wonder how many honest players have left the game because they thought they were doing something wrong but in fact they were probably one of the best legit players.

    It gets really hard to play a game where you can spend uncounted hours to craft the best builds and gear just to be outclassed by a cheater. I'm so tired of classes and abilities that got the nerf because a few hacks couldn't just play a game and had to cheat it.

    This is an ego issue and players who want to 1vX players but know that it cant be done if they are up against maxed out, top gear champ capped opponents.

    I can take on a few players if they aren't that good and I can tell they don't have awesome builds I do it all the time, but simple math makes it almost impossible to take on 4 or 5 players who have the same stats and capabilities, especially in the open field.

    Extra points if 4 or 5 EP are dropping ulits and just wrecking a DC, but then the DC just macro's them down one at a time while blocking and healing all incoming damage....yeah right...get that garbage outta here. Those players are only earning the respect and awe of noobs who don't know any better, and it turns out that the emperor has no clothes.

    This took a strange turn to anger pity? I'm confused.

    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Dirty_Digs
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    A while back in history, they invented a thing called paragraphs, you should try use using a few in your post.

    hehe sorry

  • Dirty_Digs
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    yodased- This took a strange turn to anger pity? I'm confused

    this is really just digressing from the point
    Edited by Dirty_Digs on 3 June 2016 15:54
  • yodased
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    It's not a troll, your post just didn't make sense.

    It was a rambling of thoughts in a run on sentence that turned into some kind of tirade against 1vX and 'macroing' DC?

    You are only being a harbinger of issues for the development/support team by informing people that people are 'cheating' because they beat you.

    The concept that there are better players than you may be foreign, but not everyone is cheating that beats you.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Dirty_Digs
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    lol ok man


  • Dirty_Digs
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    cheaters are all over this game, and you're gonna argue with me? Sounds like a cheat is on my page
  • Reevster
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    yodased wrote: »
    It's not a troll, your post just didn't make sense.

    It was a rambling of thoughts in a run on sentence that turned into some kind of tirade against 1vX and 'macroing' DC?

    You are only being a harbinger of issues for the development/support team by informing people that people are 'cheating' because they beat you.

    The concept that there are better players than you may be foreign, but not everyone is cheating that beats you.

    That line just cant be used anymore, because we now know "THERE IS A CE/HACK" so the OP has every right to vent about some of these so called "Good Players"

  • Dirty_Digs
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    I made a list, if a player has all that in one package it should be obvious, if you want to argue that it's normal for that to happen the your....well you just don't know enough about this game to bring any arguments
    Edited by Dirty_Digs on 3 June 2016 16:00
  • yodased
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    I am not arguing with you.

    I am not disagreeing that cheating happens currently nor denying it was RAMPANT before the "eso hack weekend"

    Simply stating that the witch hunt isn't going to help anything and what you claimed to be 'hacking' more than likely isn't.

    You can try to turn this on me if you want, but you may want to do some research first.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Dirty_Digs
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    I;ve been telling players about cheat for about the last year, and someone always want to deny it. Even when they get caught flat out and get banned I still get uninformed trolls like you who want to put in some stupid comment about how there are no cheats
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    so admit to the hacks and get on board to help out or get off my post
  • yodased
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    Dirty_Digs wrote: »
    I;ve been telling players about cheat for about the last year, and someone always want to deny it. Even when they get caught flat out and get banned I still get uninformed trolls like you who want to put in some stupid comment about how there are no cheats

    What the actual hell are you talking about now?
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Dirty_Digs
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    You accused me of whining because I was beat, never the case and I wish you would help bring the hacks and cheats to light instead of being a troll
  • yodased
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    uhm dude do you actually read this forum other than your own posts?
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Dirty_Digs
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    Forget it, no one else post to this, it's a lost cause. I'm done trying to educate the masses, sure my spelling and grammar can be off but I'm dead accurate about cheaters all over this game. If it's so hard to group together to purge cheaters then I give up
  • Abob
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    I don't think anyone cheats, there's no need for doing so, the game doesn't require any sort of strategy or skill. Most fights between good players depend on RNG and usually end up cause of some sort of bug (will block work this time? Is my hp desynced again? Will shuffle dodge the next 5 attacks? Is that char really where my screen shows me or is it just lag?).

    Resources are unlimited, especially in this new patch.

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  • Pomaikai
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    Where have you been Abob? Have you not been reading the forums lately?
  • Dirty_Digs
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    Please I don't want to start going backwards on this again. Yes, the game is loaded with cheats. Yes all those players that go around challenging emperors to duels and post it on you tube are cheating, and yes, they deny it and want players to envy and worship them.

    In order to move forward we have to post over and over and over about these cheats in order inform everyone. I don't care if there is another forum about it, it's not at the top of today's post so it needs to be re-addressed until it becomes clear.


  • Dirty_Digs
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    I don't think many really understand the consequences of this.

    I know too many players that would still be around, and still paying money, to play this game if they felt the had a fair shake. I could speculate that friends have abandoned guilds thinking that there buds were just bad players. I've seen players even switch factions to play with the hackers because they are mesmerized by how skilled they appeared to be. I have friends that have left honest fun time groups just so they can hack and ap farm.

    No one wants to play a game where they are, by default, a peasant in the realm of gods.

    If you don't really see an issue that's fine, your opinion is cool but what about the countless other players who really do care? Are we just gonna ignore the players that want an level playing field or are we gonna pander to the trolls and cheats that want to ruin everyone's fun for selfish gain?

    What's gonna happen when the only way to reach the top is too juice...or is it already too late. For all the honest and skilled players out there that have stuck to there guns and play like a bad *ss, I salute you.
  • Reevster
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    Dirty_Digs wrote: »
    I don't think many really understand the consequences of this.

    I know too many players that would still be around, and still paying money, to play this game if they felt the had a fair shake. I could speculate that friends have abandoned guilds thinking that there buds were just bad players. I've seen players even switch factions to play with the hackers because they are mesmerized by how skilled they appeared to be. I have friends that have left honest fun time groups just so they can hack and ap farm.

    No one wants to play a game where they are, by default, a peasant in the realm of gods.

    If you don't really see an issue that's fine, your opinion is cool but what about the countless other players who really do care? Are we just gonna ignore the players that want an level playing field or are we gonna pander to the trolls and cheats that want to ruin everyone's fun for selfish gain?

    What's gonna happen when the only way to reach the top is too juice...or is it already too late. For all the honest and skilled players out there that have stuck to there guns and play like a bad *ss, I salute you.

    Sorry but i have say, you know people who were hacking and "didnt" report it?

    You know the saying, if you knew and did nothing your just as bad as those who did it.

    Not trying to be a """"" here just pointing it out.
    Edited by Reevster on 3 June 2016 18:16
  • Moglijuana
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    Looks like someone has been farmed one too many times :D
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  • Dirty_Digs
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    Does this look like a joke? Of course I reported them every time I see them cheat, and no I didn't get farmed, your ignorance is showing, put a hat on.

  • Lokey0024
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    This is basically an attempt to garner mob mentaliy?

    Had to deal with this personally (ig not rl) when i used the quick chat on console to try to warn people in the sewers some AD where on the way and stay close. The emote says "stay close together" and these fearmongers thought i meant stack up on each other. So by the time i get the headset hooked up and running i got this guy going on a personal insult tirade and is either to stupid or to proud to admit he didnt understand what i meant and calls me "AD lap dog" amongst other, less then appropriate names.


    Moral- people suck... But real moral, just because you think some thing is off doesnt make it so. If your the type not to make ill informed, snap judgments, then i salute you and am here to tell you that you're the minority, sadly. Don't take the ridicule personally from most, they have had to deal with the majority ALOT, and are jaded.
  • Abob
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    Pomaikai wrote: »
    Where have you been Abob? Have you not been reading the forums lately?

    I'm in 2 dueling guilds and I can beat those guys that post videos on youtube. They are not cheating.
  • klink012
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    Dirty_Digs wrote: »
    I don't think many really understand the consequences of this.

    I know too many players that would still be around, and still paying money, to play this game if they felt the had a fair shake. I could speculate that friends have abandoned guilds thinking that there buds were just bad players. I've seen players even switch factions to play with the hackers because they are mesmerized by how skilled they appeared to be. I have friends that have left honest fun time groups just so they can hack and ap farm.

    No one wants to play a game where they are, by default, a peasant in the realm of gods.

    If you don't really see an issue that's fine, your opinion is cool but what about the countless other players who really do care? Are we just gonna ignore the players that want an level playing field or are we gonna pander to the trolls and cheats that want to ruin everyone's fun for selfish gain?

    What's gonna happen when the only way to reach the top is too juice...or is it already too late. For all the honest and skilled players out there that have stuck to there guns and play like a bad *ss, I salute you.

    100% agree with you man. Cheating and Booster has been a part of this game since the beginning. It's sickening!
  • acw37162
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    I'm personally a huge fan BLIZZARDS Overwatch Cheating philosophy.

    If we find you cheating in any way, shape, or form Perma Ban.

    They dumped thousands of accounts recently, I guarantee it's a more effective then three days.

    You pop off seventeen ultimates in row, good account.
  • Pomaikai
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    Abob wrote: »
    Pomaikai wrote: »
    Where have you been Abob? Have you not been reading the forums lately?

    I'm in 2 dueling guilds and I can beat those guys that post videos on youtube. They are not cheating.

    That's not what this thread and the issues we're discussing here are about. This is about Ayers using cheat programs to gain an advantage. Again, please read the forums to understand what all has been going on.

    And congratulations on being good.
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