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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/683901

Do you want free Respec with Dark Brotherhood?

  • LorDrek
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    Yes
    Yes, needed.
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  • phaneub17_ESO
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    Yes
    I love free respecs, it's those rare moments I put points into Alchemy and Provisions to mass craft in large bulk quantities then reset again for cheap in skills I will use.
  • Elsterchen
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    No
    Valen_Byte wrote: »
    But they wont. As long as there are respec scrolls in the crown store we will never again see free ones or even highly discounted. You know...Zo$

    You do not need to buy respec scrolls to respec your chars. You can use shrines.
  • Aetherderius
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    Didn't ZOS say they weren't doing free respecs anymore at the panel the other day?
  • Elsterchen
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    No
    Farorin wrote: »
    Respec is great, you get your SPs back, you get to try a new build, you get to try out some of the modified morphs or skills, all without paying out the arse.

    Anyone who doesn't want a respec is either lazy, or not very creative or not very adventurous.

    ... then go respec, no one is standing in your way to use the shrine every time you log in.

    :smile:
    Edited by Elsterchen on 27 April 2016 10:25
  • MornaBaine
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    Yes
    Nestor wrote: »
    It does not even have to be free. Just drop the price to 100 gold for a week or two and let people choose if they want to respec or not.

    Actually, I think they stated at one point that making them 0 cost is not something they can do. 100 Gold is effectively 0 cost anyway.

    This is exactly what should happen. Any time they introduce changes they should leave it up to the players whether or not they want to respec in response to those changes and make the cost to do so negligible.
    Edited by MornaBaine on 27 April 2016 10:27
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  • Elsterchen
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    No
    Crown-Attribute-Scroll.png
    IMO a re-spec scroll for each character is reasonable. Bind it to the character (this has been done with some trophies, so the mechanic already exists in game) so you can't sell it, bank it, or transfer it. But I see no reason to have it expire.

    It might be weeks before I get around to playing all 8 (or MORE after this update) of my toons, or I might not immediately notice that some of my skills have been nerfed to usability.

    The changes this time are more than 50 screens of information and a lot of the changes have implications that are not immediately apparent. It could take a few weeks -- or a couple of months -- to realize what all this will really do to the game. A lot of us are likely to need a second re-spec after we play for a while and learn how all this works now. One freebie is not too much to ask.

    Soooo, you do have the opportunity to respec your toons at the shrines. What do you need a free scroll for again?
  • Elsterchen
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    No
    Inklings wrote: »
    There is ZERO reason not to have an option for a free respec other then ZoS wants you to buy crown store respec scrolls. After having to spend around 140k gold to respec my 8 vr16s last update i thought about canceling my sub. I didn't cause i want to support the game. But then when they gave us the cake XP buff, that did nothing for me since i have way more then 501 cp and 8 maxed toons i finally unsubed.

    You cant be that greedy ZoS. You have to stop screwing over your most loyal players. Not giving free respecs to those of us with so many maxed level toons is a punishment.

    So, are you buying respec scrolls with gold? Amazing ! How did you do that?

    I use the shrines.
  • Brrrofski
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    Yes
    Make it 100 gold for a week or two.

    Let us try new stuff out.

    Especially for us console players that don't have access to PTS.
  • Massive_Stain
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    Yes
    Sure!
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  • Enodoc
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    Yes
    Free - Yes. Forced - No. Free and optional is the best way to go. As others have already said, this would best be done with a character-bound Respec Scroll sent in the mail.
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Yes
    Almost every skill and morph were not just changed but drastically changed. So I agree we need to be mailed 1 respec scroll per character. Bound to that character. If you dont want to use it then delete it.
  • idk
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    No
    Villious wrote: »
    Make it optional, and everyone is happy.

    It is always optional.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Yes
    Villious wrote: »
    Make it optional, and everyone is happy.

    It is always optional.

    No it isnt. Last time they made me redo all my characters even tho only one of them was affected by skill changes. I didnt have any choice. I logged in all my points were reset. It is not optional never has been. Thats why its called a "forced" respec.
  • TequilaFire
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    Yes
    16 characters 8 PC and 8 PS4 sure digs into my gold reserves for other things.
    I knew this was going to be a problem when the forum users PC and console whined it to death.
    Edited by TequilaFire on 27 April 2016 11:51
  • RazielSR
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    No
    DO NOT RESPEC MY SKILLS WITHOUT MY PERMISSION. Show some respect.

    Just give us a respec scroll or let us go to respec for free.
    Edited by RazielSR on 27 April 2016 11:49
  • eaton68_ESO
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    Yes
    Yes please. When THEY decide to change up skills, give me a reset. I'll pay when I decide to change them.
  • Inklings
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    Yes
    Elsterchen wrote: »
    Inklings wrote: »
    There is ZERO reason not to have an option for a free respec other then ZoS wants you to buy crown store respec scrolls. After having to spend around 140k gold to respec my 8 vr16s last update i thought about canceling my sub. I didn't cause i want to support the game. But then when they gave us the cake XP buff, that did nothing for me since i have way more then 501 cp and 8 maxed toons i finally unsubed.

    You cant be that greedy ZoS. You have to stop screwing over your most loyal players. Not giving free respecs to those of us with so many maxed level toons is a punishment.

    So, are you buying respec scrolls with gold? Amazing ! How did you do that?

    I use the shrines.

    What are u trying to get at? If u can't see how spending 140K every 60 days cause of massive changes that you have no control over as a bad thing then I don't know what to tell ya.
  • heyewe
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    I love the idea of a respec scroll, bound to character for a limited time.
    That'd be a nice gesture, considering the changes. However, if there's been nasty condemnation about Zenimax giving that for free in the past because folks weren't ready to come online and see wiped out skill point trees?...they most likely said 'cool...it was a pain to do anyway..let them do it themselves'
    Maybe they would consider respec scrolls being on sale after the update? Or maybe even throw them in some chests and urns every once in a while?
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Inklings wrote: »
    Elsterchen wrote: »
    Inklings wrote: »
    There is ZERO reason not to have an option for a free respec other then ZoS wants you to buy crown store respec scrolls. After having to spend around 140k gold to respec my 8 vr16s last update i thought about canceling my sub. I didn't cause i want to support the game. But then when they gave us the cake XP buff, that did nothing for me since i have way more then 501 cp and 8 maxed toons i finally unsubed.

    You cant be that greedy ZoS. You have to stop screwing over your most loyal players. Not giving free respecs to those of us with so many maxed level toons is a punishment.

    So, are you buying respec scrolls with gold? Amazing ! How did you do that?

    I use the shrines.

    What are u trying to get at? If u can't see how spending 140K every 60 days cause of massive changes that you have no control over as a bad thing then I don't know what to tell ya.

    Every 60 days? really? Why would you do that?
  • Inklings
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    Inklings wrote: »
    Elsterchen wrote: »
    Inklings wrote: »
    There is ZERO reason not to have an option for a free respec other then ZoS wants you to buy crown store respec scrolls. After having to spend around 140k gold to respec my 8 vr16s last update i thought about canceling my sub. I didn't cause i want to support the game. But then when they gave us the cake XP buff, that did nothing for me since i have way more then 501 cp and 8 maxed toons i finally unsubed.

    You cant be that greedy ZoS. You have to stop screwing over your most loyal players. Not giving free respecs to those of us with so many maxed level toons is a punishment.

    So, are you buying respec scrolls with gold? Amazing ! How did you do that?

    I use the shrines.

    What are u trying to get at? If u can't see how spending 140K every 60 days cause of massive changes that you have no control over as a bad thing then I don't know what to tell ya.

    Every 60 days? really? Why would you do that?

    Cause we just had a major update about 2 months ago. So this is going to be almost 300k gold i spent on respects in almost two months time.
  • STEVIL
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    Looks like we are seeing this "huge majority" that forgets what skills they use every six months and freaks out when they are reset is not online today. Or it was all just an excuse.

    So many changes we need.
    • All Champion Points reset.
    • All Skill Points reset.


    If anyone forgets what morphs do what I will offer my game time up to explain every morph to you. Just PM me on here. I'm sure others will do as well. Just let us respec.

    I think if you try and practice you will be able to be more condescending.

    I had 8 chars, almost all vet ranks last time they wiped skills. Of course i knew the ones i had played recently well, but the others i had not touched for maybe months.

    The ability to review each char as is before i wipe skills is a must imo.

    If respec worked like cp do, your current values show and you can subtract/add that would be fine.

    But magically wipe, nah.

    Every since i do screen caps for all chars before major updates.
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  • Inklings
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    Yes
    Just a heads up to new players. When this game first released and we got our first update a few months later, ZoS lowered the shrine cost for a few days so we had really cheep respecs. They are able to do this, there is a way to make those who dont want a free respec happy, and those who like myself that will have to spend 300k in the last 60 so days on respecs a lot more affordable and friendly. So again, the only reason they are not doing what they have done in the past, is that we now have respec scrolls in the crownstore, and they want us to buy them. Its nothing more then greed on their part and we need to call them out on it.

    Do the right thing ZoS, you have done it in the past with cheep respecs, stop trying to nickle and dime your player base!
  • W0lf_z13
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    Yes
    an optional one would be great, or at least for a limited time have the gold amount lowered drastically.... not all of us have a TON of gold.... last dlc it ran me over 30k gold to respec for my 8 toons
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    No
    Just to p**** off people who were so rude and entitled when ZOS used to give free respecs.
  • Armitas
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    I think there should be an option to respec with every major update. Key word being option though.
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  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    I just don't really care.

    None of the changes to Skills or the Champion constellations affect any of my builds, so I'm not worried about having to reassign any points for anything.

    So I'm really "meh" about it.

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  • waterfairy
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    If you can't afford a respec... your doing somthing wrong.

    ZOS is making some big changes that will cost me thousands across 8 characters, they should temporarily reduce the price or make it free when they alter the game in such a way.
  • Deceptive_Yoshi
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    Give us a notification saying "Your skills have been changed drastically in this update would you like to review the patch notes and decide if you want a free respec?", then give us a limited time use respec scroll as suggested by dsalter.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Yes
    Inklings wrote: »
    Inklings wrote: »
    Elsterchen wrote: »
    Inklings wrote: »
    There is ZERO reason not to have an option for a free respec other then ZoS wants you to buy crown store respec scrolls. After having to spend around 140k gold to respec my 8 vr16s last update i thought about canceling my sub. I didn't cause i want to support the game. But then when they gave us the cake XP buff, that did nothing for me since i have way more then 501 cp and 8 maxed toons i finally unsubed.

    You cant be that greedy ZoS. You have to stop screwing over your most loyal players. Not giving free respecs to those of us with so many maxed level toons is a punishment.

    So, are you buying respec scrolls with gold? Amazing ! How did you do that?

    I use the shrines.

    What are u trying to get at? If u can't see how spending 140K every 60 days cause of massive changes that you have no control over as a bad thing then I don't know what to tell ya.

    Every 60 days? really? Why would you do that?

    Cause we just had a major update about 2 months ago. So this is going to be almost 300k gold i spent on respects in almost two months time.

    By the time this comes out it will have been over 90 days. Or are you saying you have to change before the new patch.
    Edited by jamesharv2005ub17_ESO on 27 April 2016 14:02
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