PTS Patch Notes v2.4.0

clinkorz

My ward...my precious ward

Sheey

Time to quit the game

Cazic

Joy_Division wrote: »

So ... I understand stamina was not appealing in Cyrodiil in the last patch...

Now, they are getting the same defense mechanic that that Sorcerers had: a shield that blocks everything that scaled off their main attribute ... and will still have an effective 20% miss chance and be able to dodge efficiently?

I'll trade my viscous death set for that.

Overall I like a lot of what I am reading, but this is questionable and I better not *EVER* hear one more whine about Jesus Beam with all that defense.

What's this stam defense mechanic that scales to our main attribute that you speak of?

Joy_Division

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Potency runestones no longer need to be harvested, with every tier of both polarities now available for purchase from any enchanting vendor, including Alliance Point enchanting vendors.

Does this mean you CAN'T harvest them anymore? Or just that they are now available for sale?

They cannot be harvested anymore; all Enchanting runestones now give Aspect and Essence. You can still get them by deconstructing glyphs, though, but the main way is to just buy what you need from a vendor.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
Is there any compelling reason that ZoS made it so that I, as an enchanter, have to buy the stuff I could previously freely harvest?

This seems to me an unnecessary change that unduly punishes crafters who would rather gather their mats rather than just buy them.

Maotti

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Potency runestones no longer need to be harvested, with every tier of both polarities now available for purchase from any enchanting vendor, including Alliance Point enchanting vendors.

Does this mean you CAN'T harvest them anymore? Or just that they are now available for sale?

They cannot be harvested anymore; all Enchanting runestones now give Aspect and Essence. You can still get them by deconstructing glyphs, though, but the main way is to just buy what you need from a vendor.

Whatever happened to "We want you to explore the world" and all that?

Imo this is a bad change.

Joy_Division

Cazic wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

So ... I understand stamina was not appealing in Cyrodiil in the last patch...

Now, they are getting the same defense mechanic that that Sorcerers had: a shield that blocks everything that scaled off their main attribute ... and will still have an effective 20% miss chance and be able to dodge efficiently?

I'll trade my viscous death set for that.

Overall I like a lot of what I am reading, but this is questionable and I better not *EVER* hear one more whine about Jesus Beam with all that defense.

What's this stam defense mechanic that scales to our main attribute that you speak of?

Bone Shield:

• This ability and its morphs now absorb all damage instead of just physical damage.
• This ability and its morphs will now scale their damage shield values based on your maximum stamina instead of your maximum health.

Beruge

What is concidered items for the crafting bags? All sorts of runes? provisinoring items? tempers? raw materials? refined materials? trait gems?

StopDropAndBear

I wish some of the Champion System passives had been looked at this time around, some of the unlocks are still awful (War Mount at 120 points spent in The Tower....possibly the most useless unlock someone could come up with)

Cazic

Joy_Division wrote: »

Cazic wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

So ... I understand stamina was not appealing in Cyrodiil in the last patch...

Now, they are getting the same defense mechanic that that Sorcerers had: a shield that blocks everything that scaled off their main attribute ... and will still have an effective 20% miss chance and be able to dodge efficiently?

I'll trade my viscous death set for that.

Overall I like a lot of what I am reading, but this is questionable and I better not *EVER* hear one more whine about Jesus Beam with all that defense.

What's this stam defense mechanic that scales to our main attribute that you speak of?

Bone Shield:

• This ability and its morphs now absorb all damage instead of just physical damage.
• This ability and its morphs will now scale their damage shield values based on your maximum stamina instead of your maximum health.

Thank you.

olivaresdonjuan

DKs doing poison damage now, I'm done, we had a good time ESO.

hrothbern

Epona222 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Potency runestones no longer need to be harvested, with every tier of both polarities now available for purchase from any enchanting vendor, including Alliance Point enchanting vendors.

Does this mean you CAN'T harvest them anymore? Or just that they are now available for sale?

They cannot be harvested anymore; all Enchanting runestones now give Aspect and Essence. You can still get them by deconstructing glyphs, though, but the main way is to just buy what you need from a vendor.

Sorry, but that's a rubbish change. I like to be able to harvest what I need.

The Vet 15-16 Potency stones can be bought for Tel Var stones, and these can be harvested in the upgraded IC.

That is not perfect for a lover of roaming and harvesting through the wilderness, like me.

But it is still self supporting.

Theshebz

Really? Ward nerf from 20 seconds to 6? Nerf down to 10 would have been 50% but then you go all the way go 6 seconds?!?! Yea well it looks like its time to cancel my eso+ and game shopping. Thanks for competely ruining a class.

ElderBugOffline

ElderBugOffline wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno please tell us what about weekly rewards for Sanctum? other trials, Veteran DSA?
it will still reward you with only MoL items?

guys any news about this?

Epona222

hrothbern wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Potency runestones no longer need to be harvested, with every tier of both polarities now available for purchase from any enchanting vendor, including Alliance Point enchanting vendors.

Does this mean you CAN'T harvest them anymore? Or just that they are now available for sale?

They cannot be harvested anymore; all Enchanting runestones now give Aspect and Essence. You can still get them by deconstructing glyphs, though, but the main way is to just buy what you need from a vendor.

Sorry, but that's a rubbish change. I like to be able to harvest what I need.

The Vet 15-16 Potency stones can be bought for Tel Var stones, and these can be harvested in the upgraded IC.

That is not perfect for a lover of roaming and harvesting through the wilderness, like me.

But it is still self supporting.

I don't particularly enjoy IC. I do like wandering through Wrothgar harvesting stuff at a leisurely pace.

Astanphaeus

Answered already, nvm.

Epona222

Astanphaeus wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Potency runestones no longer need to be harvested, with every tier of both polarities now available for purchase from any enchanting vendor, including Alliance Point enchanting vendors.

Does this mean you CAN'T harvest them anymore? Or just that they are now available for sale?

This is what I want to know. Potency harvesting is one of the easiest harvestings there is. I don't want to have to waste even 10g on a potency rune.

Gina responded saying they are no longer available for harvest This is a blow to people who like to 'live off the land' in-game, if that makes sense.

GoldenKitsune

Broke my heart with all the Magica nerfs. =.=

Cazic

olivaresdonjuan wrote: »

DKs doing poison damage now, I'm done, we had a good time ESO.

Seems pretty weird to me too. Don't really see how poison damage makes sense for dks.

Someone pointed out that the change is to allow those abilities damage to increase with putting champ points into Mighty (increases phys and poison dmg)... So in that respect it makes sense and is actually a buff for stam dks.

covenant_merchant

I know it's just been a couple of hours, but I'm surprised at how few sorcs are raging at those changes. I mean Dawnbreaker, come on! What the hell are sorcs supposed to use instead now in PVP? (keep in mind that all other ultis cost far more, and overload spam is just plain insulting).
Also, yes yes harness magicka absorbing all damage, kuddos on that. But with that reduced duration, you'll run out of resources before managing to shieldstack. Seriously, how on earth are you supposed to put out decent damage with the deto+dawnbreaker+curse combo being rendered virtually useless, and at the same time shieldstack for your life?

Astanphaeus

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

They cannot be harvested anymore; all Enchanting runestones now give Aspect and Essence. You can still get them by deconstructing glyphs, though, but the main way is to just buy what you need from a vendor.

How much are you charging us for these, although any amount is too much.

Pirhana7_ESO

olivaresdonjuan wrote: »

DKs doing poison damage now, I'm done, we had a good time ESO.

It only makes sense that there dots are based off their physical damage so their dots gains the same champion point damage bonuses. Yah, they will do a little more damage now, but its nothing to quit the game over.

Khaos_Bane

bitaken wrote: »

Well, I don't see anything about lowering the magicka cost of Hardened Ward.

While I am not happy about this change - I think you should reconsider going to 10 seconds and halving the magicka cost of the shield. Do you guys not want people on the Non CP campaign?

Agreed, if we are expected to maintain the ward so frequently there should be a drastic cost reduction.

Master_Kas

I play magica specs aswell but I must say the magicka user QQ is so good.

Astanphaeus

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

[*]Nirnhoned: This trait now increases the damage of the weapon.

Why would you do this? There is already a weapon damage enchant when there isn't a spell damage one. Who thought it was a good idea to get rid of one of the few magicka user traits to replace it with more weapon damage?

Zakor

Obsidian Shield: Reduced the duration of this ability and its morphs to 6 seconds from 20 seconds.

Why, just why? I can understand this change for the fragmented shield but what about the healer morph? It's kinda useless now:
close to no range, rebuff all 6 seconds (since you need the healing buff), high costs, low shield...

At least let Igneous Shield finally scale from max magicka instead of health. Damn, so disappointed...Dk-Heals were finally nice to play and now this.

sereneimp1337b14_ESO

Alot of this update sounds great. especially for my Stam blade alt. However the duration of shields I think is too much of a nerf. maybe 10 seconds for empoered ward/all shields but 6 seconds means sorcs will be lucky to get 2-3 casts off before having to reapply if you have the resources to do so. I am concerened about VMSA but I guess I wont know until I test it.

The vampire changes:

1. great choice on mist form, this was a much needed adjustment for the ability.
2. Glad to see we now have our magicka/stamina recovery back regardless of if vampire abilities are slotted.
3. I gotta say the changes to Dark Stalker is to my personal strong distaste. I dont like the idea of being forced to stay in stage 4 to benefit from a major passive of the skill line. I could understand not having it with stage 1 (As there is no penalty fire etc) but maybe have it active in stage 2-4 or at the very least 3 as well?


I was really hoping for some major positive changes to things. atleast thats how DB was being percieved by me. but instead it seems Magicka sorcs/shield users got a swift kick to the nuts. All feeds back regarding vampires and the changes that were wanted ( in the sense of a new ability or two) were completely ignored and instead this patch made mist form how it always should have been. and choosing to be in stage 4 to really benefit from the tree.

I hope some of these changes do not stick when live drops and at the very least are slightly altered so it doesnt seem like such a nerf to Vamps/magicka users and a complete buff to Stamblades.

/end feedback

Nichts

I have a questions about the patchnotes concerning 4 Player Dungeons:

Why did you decide to nerf CoA, ICP and WGT even further ?
- vCOA can be completed with 2 players. It is hard but a lot of fun.
- After the change of the second boss in vICP, you can easily complete this dungeon as well.

If the difficulty of the dungeons is decreased even further, there are no goals in this game anymore.

IMHO: A veteran dungeon should be exactly as it's name suggests. Please make them harder! There are so many more or less easy veteran dungeons, such as Elden Hollow, Spindle Clutch, Banished Cells, Fungal Grotto etc.

One solution is the introduction of a nightmare mode for some veteran dungeons.

Another one: With the new CP-System you could do the following:
Introduce a new option in the group window, where you can select a number of CPs that represent the difficulty.

160 = v16 = the veteran mode of a dungeon we know.
<160 = the veteran dungeon scaled down to v15, v14 etc. -> You can use it as a training dungeon to get used to boss mechanics.
>160 = increased difficulty.

Then you could even combine this with the dropchance of set-items. (Increase difficulty by 10% = Increase of Dropchance by 1%)

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PS: Yesterday I noticed a bug concerning the usage of "Inner Light" on one ability bar and the use of Crit-Increasing Potions.
Where can I report this bug ?

Ishrii

Hagebutte wrote: »

Focused Healing:

Renamed this passive ability to Sacred Ground.
This passive ability has gained a new effect. In addition to providing the Minor Mending buff, it now also reduces the Movement Speed of enemies by 15/30% whenever they stand in your Cleansing Ritual, Rune Focus, or Rite of Passage area of effects.

So the Major Mending buff is changed into Minor? That's kinda disappointing...

Must be a typeo -- I just logged into the PTS and it still says Major Mending.

david.haypreub18_ESO

Sharmony wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Uppercut: This ability and the Wrecking Blow morph no longer knockback and stun enemies hit.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Dizzying Swing will no longer apply the Minor Maim debuff to enemies hit; instead, it will add a knockback and stun to the ability.

Seriously.

You make WB overpowered for more than a year. Now that you've finally, finally responded to everyone who was telling you it was OP and finally nerfing it... only to make another skill OP in exactly the same way?

I give up.

SpAEkus

@ZOS_GinaBruno

1) Can we craft directly from the craft bag or do we have to move items to the bank or inventory first?

2) Does the Potency Rune change affect Enchanting Hirelings?