PTS Patch Notes v2.4.0

StopDropAndBear

My wards! My precious antique wards! D'aw heck, look what ya done to'em.

ZOS_GinaBruno

Telel wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno

This one found something odd in the werewolf notes.

Call of the Pack: Redesigned this passive ability so it now reduces the cost of staying in Werewolf form by 10/20% for each transformed Werewolf in your group, including yourself, up to a maximum of 40/80% at Ranks I/II.

Currently there is no cost to stay in form as it's done a timer, and that time is increased by various means. So is this note incorrect or has there been a major revision of how the ultimate works?

The timer, in the case of werewolves, is the second Magicka bar that's underneath your main Magicka bar. For this change, the decrease is the decay rate for the Werewolf "resource" bar, if you will.

Tarrin

Cazic wrote: »

Why are DK abilities being changed from fire to poison damage?

For stamina based non dunmer DK?

bardx86

x5ofspadez wrote: »

RIP Magicka Sorc.
What made them think that changing wards from 20 to 6 seconds was a good idea? anyone?

stupid idea

NBrookus

Rylana wrote: »

x5ofspadez wrote: »

RIP Magicka Sorc.
What made them think that changing wards from 20 to 6 seconds was a good idea? anyone?

I wont suffer a bit, and I actually became stronger when slotting harness, and I already use negate liberally

In other words, every sorc who wasn't a shield stacker in PvP pretty much has to be one now. Guess it's time to pull out my Lich set to deal with the increased magicka costs of staying alive... or turn my sorc into a ganker.

Lots of meta-changing stuff here for tanks, sorcs and stam players overall.

Armitas

Heavy armor changes look really nice! Any thoughts of dealing with maul/mace penetration percentages as well?

Note: I did not realize from the patch notes that the block reduction was removed from heavy armor. That part is very much not nice.

Aliniel

Well, RiP Sorcs? Crappy pets stay crappy. Furthermore, the shield's been nerfed so the pets are gonna be crappier. The only good thing is Negate which is probably gonna be more useful now. Depends on the numbers though. When are you gonna put some love to Sorcs? You're making us more and more into healing/supporting then DPS class. We want some destructive powers, damn it ... I'm starting to think we need a complete rework at this point. Daedric summoning is Sheogorath's mad joke. Dark magic... well, nothing dark there. Thank Stendarr for Crystal frags. Storm calling's mediocre. We're FORCED to spam left mouse button for DPS-ing with Overload. When are we gonna become the wizards we always should've been?

Tarrin

I`m using Brawler (Cleave morth) + Reverse slice now. Thank you for this improvement. But increasing radius of Reverse Slice mb? Up to 7 meters.

Otherwise Bone shield + Steel tornado will be much better.

Cazic

Tarrin wrote: »

Cazic wrote: »

Why are DK abilities being changed from fire to poison damage?

For stamina based non dunmer DK?

Can you elaborate? How does having the abilities deal poison damage make them more appealing than fire?

Sharmony

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Uppercut: This ability and the Wrecking Blow morph no longer knockback and stun enemies hit.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Dizzying Swing will no longer apply the Minor Maim debuff to enemies hit; instead, it will add a knockback and stun to the ability.

sparafucilsarwb17_ESO

So many nerfs...really disappointing.

bhlegit

shields down to 6 seconds from 20

Torbschka

Cazic wrote: »

Tarrin wrote: »

Cazic wrote: »

Why are DK abilities being changed from fire to poison damage?

For stamina based non dunmer DK?

Can you elaborate? How does having the abilities deal poison damage make them more appealing than fire?

because u have + physical and poison damage in champion points as a stamina class. so now, ur dots as a stamina dk doing approx 25% more dmg (if u have 100 in mighty)

CP5

"The experience awarded by those quests has been increased, and they also award Alliance Points and an Ornate item which can be sold for gold."

Why not just raw gold? All having the item is taking my time to walk 2 steps to the side and sell the item. It is just a pointless step to take, and one I already take for 99% of pve quest rewards.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO

Yep so just switch from wrecking blow to dizzying swing prob averted

Fetaro

Sweet natch potes are sweet

Cinbri

I am officially like this patch.

Cazic

Torbschka wrote: »

Cazic wrote: »

Tarrin wrote: »

Cazic wrote: »

Why are DK abilities being changed from fire to poison damage?

For stamina based non dunmer DK?

Can you elaborate? How does having the abilities deal poison damage make them more appealing than fire?

because u have + physical and poison damage in champion points as a stamina class. so now, ur dots as a stamina dk doing approx 25% more dmg (if u have 100 in mighty)

Ah k that makes sense. I'm a dunmer stam DK and have built around the dunmer fire damage bonus a bit. Just hoping this doesn't gimp my build too much.

Epona222

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Potency runestones no longer need to be harvested, with every tier of both polarities now available for purchase from any enchanting vendor, including Alliance Point enchanting vendors.

Does this mean you CAN'T harvest them anymore? Or just that they are now available for sale?

They cannot be harvested anymore; all Enchanting runestones now give Aspect and Essence. You can still get them by deconstructing glyphs, though, but the main way is to just buy what you need from a vendor.

Sorry, but that's a rubbish change. I like to be able to harvest what I need.

Rex-Umbra

Long read, very interesting. Dusting off the stamina characters again but wish more for my hybrid.

Preyfar

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yep so just switch from wrecking blow to dizzying swing prob averted

The knockback wasn't the issue, it was the knockback + 20% power buff that made Wrecking Blow the monster it is/was.

Nestor

Epona222 wrote: »

Sorry, but that's a rubbish change. I like to be able to harvest what I need.

Especially based on how they price things in the game. Potencies have always been the rare thing in Enchanting, but this just drives up the cost of enchanting for those who are farming as they go along.

phreatophile

So, even more nerfing of Vampires. That Dark Stalker only stage 4 Nerf is nasty.

But hey, at least there is an actual reason to use a vampire ability, spam mist form 12 times and you can change your stage, since stage 2 will be the stage to be in with minimal penalties and regeneration increases. Cost reduction still won't matter because the actives are still underwhelming.

Tarrin

Epona222 wrote: »

Sorry, but that's a rubbish change. I like to be able to harvest what I need.

It`s for money withdraw. Not bad change.

covenant_merchant

What the hell is up with all the nerfs to magicka sorc?
Both morphs of dawnbreaker dealing physical damage.. Well sorcs have lost the best ulti in PVP. Guess overload time it is.
Also what's up with the shields' duration?
God, I honestly dread those changes.

Preyfar

Side note: I really love the fact it shows my pets and mounts on login now! Although, for whatever reason, all of my characters show as skeletons...

Joy_Division

So ... I understand stamina was not appealing in Cyrodiil in the last patch...

Now, they are getting the same defense mechanic that that Sorcerers had: a shield that blocks everything that scaled off their main attribute ... and will still have an effective 20% miss chance and be able to dodge efficiently?

I'll trade my viscous death set for that.

Overall I like a lot of what I am reading, but this is questionable and I better not *EVER* hear one more whine about Jesus Beam with all that defense.

Enodoc

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

NEW FEATURES / UPDATES / BIG CHANGES
Base Game Patch
Veteran Rank Removal

• Old Veteran Rank [...] monsters will now display Champion Points.
  • For monsters, the number of Champion Points describes the monster’s strength.

Disappointed by this. This takes absolutely zero steps towards removing the implied linearity that Veteran Ranks caused. People will feel compelled to go through areas with 10 CP monsters before areas with 60 CP monsters solely because of the numbers, just as they do now with VR1 to VR6. All enemies should be displaying Level 50, and nothing more, to promote the idea that every endgame activity is equal (be that Cadwell, Craglorn, Dungeons, Trials, or Cyrodiil).

• Monsters will now scale up faster in difficulty through veteran zones.
• Silver and Gold zones have been releveled to account for the increased speed at which you gain Champion Points.

If everything has been rescaled, hopefully this will go some way towards reducing that linearity. I doubt it has though...

Enchanting Improvements

• All harvestable runestones will now provide at least one Essence and Aspect runestone per harvest.
• Potency runestones no longer need to be harvested, with every tier of both polarities now available for purchase from any enchanting vendor, including Alliance Point enchanting vendors.

Does this mean there will no longer be separate "Potency", "Essence", and "Aspect" runestone nodes? Can Potency runes still be harvested, or are they vendor only?

Edit: Answered.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Potency runestones no longer need to be harvested, with every tier of both polarities now available for purchase from any enchanting vendor, including Alliance Point enchanting vendors.

Does this mean you CAN'T harvest them anymore? Or just that they are now available for sale?

They cannot be harvested anymore; all Enchanting runestones now give Aspect and Essence. You can still get them by deconstructing glyphs, though, but the main way is to just buy what you need from a vendor.

BOOO bad change. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that make Potency runestones the only crafting material that cannot be harvested? That's a very inconsistent setup. You shouldn't be forced to buy or deconstruct to obtain crafting materials.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

NEW FEATURES / UPDATES / BIG CHANGES
DLC Game Packs
Changes to Imperial City

• You will now lose 50% of your Tel Var Stones for both a PvE or PvP death. Previously, you would lose 10% of your Stones for a PvE death, and 80% for a PvP death.

I like the fact that the loss values have been consolidated to the same number. I think 50% is too low, though. Somewhere between 60-70% (eg, 67%) would be more reasonable.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

AVAILABLE TEMPLATES

• All crafting lines except Provisioner will be maxed out. This will be addressed in a future PTS patch.
• You will have full knowledge of all Equipment Traits, including Nirnhoned.
• You will receive a new item, “The Ultimate Crafting Crate”. This crate contains:
  • 10x of “The Alchemist’s Crate”
  • 10x “The Crafter’s Materials Crate”
  • 1x “Crafter’s Limitless Library”
  • 1x “The Traveled Crafter’s Crate”
• Their contents are as follows:
  • “The Alchemist’s Crate” contains 200x of every kind of Water, every kind of Alchemy Reagent, and every kind of Oil (used in poisoncrafting). This includes the new Reagents introduced with Poisoncrafting, as well.
  • “The Crafter’s Materials Crate” contains 200x of every kind of Refined Material, of every level, for Clothiers, Blacksmiths, and Woodworkers. It also contains 200x of each kind of improvement material.
  • “The Crafter’s Limitless Library” contains the full Style Book for every Style that your character does not know. This allows you to pick and choose which styles you’d like to learn, or you can just read all the books and learn everything.
  • “The Traveled Crafter’s Crate” contains 200x of every Trait item (including both Nirncrux variants), ever refined Style Item currently available, and 200x Crown Mimic Stones.

Great to see all this template stuff! I hope the wayshrine access to every zone has been maintained.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

KNOWN ISSUES
Combat & Gameplay
Exploration & Itemization
Imperial City

• The Tel Var Stone bonus is currently being applied while in the Imperial Sewers, which is not intended.

Please reconsider "fixing" that. This sounds like a good thing to me, as it provides more incentive to capture the districts.

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

FIXES & IMPROVEMENTS, ORSINIUM DLC GAME PACK
Quests & Zones
General

• The Merchant and Friendship Gates will now take you to Bangkorai and Stormhaven, respectively, and there is a new cart in Orsinium to return you to your alliance’s main city.
  • Carts to Orsinium in Vulkhel Guard, Davon's Watch, and Daggerfall will bring you to the Merchant's Gate until you complete the quest "Invitation to Orsinium."
  • Doing so will then teleport you to the cart in Orsinium.

How will this work if you are an EP or AD player who has not yet reached Level 50 or completed the main quest? They do not have access to Bangkorai or Stormhaven, as they have not unlocked Cadwell's zones, so where will the gates take them?

Epona222

Nestor wrote: »

Epona222 wrote: »

Sorry, but that's a rubbish change. I like to be able to harvest what I need.

Especially based on how they price things in the game. Potencies have always been the rare thing in Enchanting, but this just drives up the cost of enchanting for those who are farming as they go along.

I want to feel like an adventurer and/or crafter in the game, not a shopper. I worry even more that this could be the thin end of the wedge, what mats will be next for 'vendor only' treatment? If I need potency runes, I should have the option of putting in the time and effort to get them at 0 gold cost, same as I do with every other crafting mat that I need.

MissBizz

Epona222 wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

MissBizz wrote: »

Potency runestones no longer need to be harvested, with every tier of both polarities now available for purchase from any enchanting vendor, including Alliance Point enchanting vendors.

Does this mean you CAN'T harvest them anymore? Or just that they are now available for sale?

They cannot be harvested anymore; all Enchanting runestones now give Aspect and Essence. You can still get them by deconstructing glyphs, though, but the main way is to just buy what you need from a vendor.

Sorry, but that's a rubbish change. I like to be able to harvest what I need.

I agree @Epona222 I'm always super broke (don't ask what I spend my gold on, because I have no idea either) so I actively avoid buying ANYTHING from vendors. I don't buy mats from players unless I'm in a real need (which has happened.... twice?)