20k + radiant destruction? GTFO ZOS

Ei8hTy_SiX

A non-ultimate ability should never do more damage than an ultimate. This is a joke. Who is in charge of class balance? Fire them!
BTW, these last updates have murdered my Redguard Stam Sorcerer. I can't compete in PVP. If I come across any player with the slightest bit of competence I am dead. I can't continue to play a game that seems to only care about selling us crap.
I have played this game for too long without seeing any real progress in pvp class balance. You keep pushing out bug ridden patches and selling dlc's instead of fixing things that have been broken for over a year.
Why are gap closers still broken?
Why is the lag so bad?
Why do you have a pts, but then release a patch different than what was tested?
Why does... Nevermind. I know why. You don't care about the players. You already got my money. You keep asking for more. Check my account. I've spent over $500 on this game trusting that you guys would fix the things that need fixing. After a year of you demonstrating my trust was misplaced, I'm only left with questions and frustration.
It feels like you sold Bethesda on the idea of a pvp multiplayer elder scrolls game, only to bait and switch once you were allowed to make the game. It's very apparent that you care little to nothing about Cyrodiil because it makes you no money. The focus of your company is pushing out PVE content and selling crap. How do you expect to maintain with that? I'm done.

Kwivur

Dude, all you needed was 24k health..

Pallio

Or to realize that it is a UI display error, since most of that dmg happened post-mortem, ie. With 1k remaining health you take a 12k tick.

Mcwoods55

Ei8hTy_SiX wrote: »

A non-ultimate ability should never do more damage than an ultimate. This is a joke. Who is in charge of class balance? Fire them!
BTW, these last updates have murdered my Redguard Stam Sorcerer. I can't compete in PVP. If I come across any player with the slightest bit of competence I am dead. I can't continue to play a game that seems to only care about selling us crap.
I have played this game for too long without seeing any real progress in pvp class balance. You keep pushing out bug ridden patches and selling dlc's instead of fixing things that have been broken for over a year.
Why are gap closers still broken?
Why is the lag so bad?
Why do you have a pts, but then release a patch different than what was tested?
Why does... Nevermind. I know why. You don't care about the players. You already got my money. You keep asking for more. Check my account. I've spent over $500 on this game trusting that you guys would fix the things that need fixing. After a year of you demonstrating my trust was misplaced, I'm only left with questions and frustration.
It feels like you sold Bethesda on the idea of a pvp multiplayer elder scrolls game, only to bait and switch once you were allowed to make the game. It's very apparent that you care little to nothing about Cyrodiil because it makes you no money. The focus of your company is pushing out PVE content and selling crap. How do you expect to maintain with that? I'm done.

Radiant destruction is based off of current magicka and scales off of the targets current health. I have hit for 19K and I am vr8 with 475 cps..... It isn't always that high but its fun when it hits!

Thelon

Ei8hTy_SiX wrote: »

I'm done.

Zyle

What...? No one has said it yet?

















Can I have your stuff?

THEDKEXPERIENCE

Don't feel too bad ... my RO could have hit you for 25k no problem. Haha.

But ... as has been said, it's not really actually doing that. You basically get hit for 20k as a tick when you're already at like 10% health.

There are also roughly 146 ways to combat it that have been discussed on here hundreds of times already.

I'm one of the worst "offenders" of RO spamming, and I can tell you for a fact I use it less than 20% of the time because it's only useful in 2 situations.

A) Closing out a fight.
Spamming it over my guildmates shoulders while they form a Zerg meat wall in front of me.

Nothing much you can do about A other than to make sure you're not fighting a Templar while under 50% health but there is plenty you can do about B. Templars act as roving missle launchers. They can't move at all when spamming RO, can't heal, and paint a huge yellow line directly to themselves. You might get got from one but if you just focus on them 99% of Templar glass cannons just get melted.

Just not me because mist form rocks.

Ariades_swe

Ei8hTy_SiX wrote: »

A non-ultimate ability should never do more damage than an ultimate. This is a joke. Who is in charge of class balance? Fire them!
BTW, these last updates have murdered my Redguard Stam Sorcerer. I can't compete in PVP. If I come across any player with the slightest bit of competence I am dead. I can't continue to play a game that seems to only care about selling us crap.
I have played this game for too long without seeing any real progress in pvp class balance. You keep pushing out bug ridden patches and selling dlc's instead of fixing things that have been broken for over a year.
Why are gap closers still broken?
Why is the lag so bad?
Why do you have a pts, but then release a patch different than what was tested?
Why does... Nevermind. I know why. You don't care about the players. You already got my money. You keep asking for more. Check my account. I've spent over $500 on this game trusting that you guys would fix the things that need fixing. After a year of you demonstrating my trust was misplaced, I'm only left with questions and frustration.
It feels like you sold Bethesda on the idea of a pvp multiplayer elder scrolls game, only to bait and switch once you were allowed to make the game. It's very apparent that you care little to nothing about Cyrodiil because it makes you no money. The focus of your company is pushing out PVE content and selling crap. How do you expect to maintain with that? I'm done.

I feel ya. My nb is worthless post TG. Stealth is broken. Survivability and damage sucks for nbs (both magicka and stamina) while we have dks chainrooting while tanking zergs, templars one shottiing with stamina jabs or rd. And dont get me started on sorcs that either crystal frag you to death in 3 secs or wb spam you dead.
Why should the least survivable class (nb) do pitiful damage compared to all wb,jabs,cf spamming noobs out there?

Psychotius

Bethesda is a Zenimax company, so I don't think they had to sell them anything since they own them, but moving on...

That 20k radiant is also over time, not one large burst. It was also only allowed to reach that much damage because you were being damaged by one or more other players at the same time. It is powerful, but considering you are a stam sorc you should be able to crit rush or streak the templar and interrupt them. I play a stam sorc as well as my primary pvp toon, still just as viable as ever, and I love seeing someone radiant me. Makes them an instant target for getting rekt.

Also, can I have your stuff?

myrrrorb14_ESO

I sympathize with having to change gear / abilities / champion points / attributes / skill rotation on an ongoing basis. I feel the frustration in your post coming through very clearly.

You will be sorely missed. Good luck on your next endeavor.

btw 20k radiant isn't that bad. That's either a critical tick when you are <10%, a normal tick when you are <2%, or just the death recap which puts the entire channel into one lump sum.

My crystal Frag crits for 24k and my ice comet does 70k I believe.

myrrrorb14_ESO

Zyle wrote: »

What...? No one has said it yet?

















Can I have your stuff?

There's a bunch of holes in his stuff. You don't want it, it will get you killed.

BlackEar

I... I just feel like we are in a really good place right now, ya know?

Bdawwg

Yeah most of that damage is spilled over once your character has died. It's not like you were sitting at 19k health and died with just radiant. You're telling half a story if not less and asking for nerfs

Mcwoods55

It only helps you in PVE so move onward!

Pallio

On the death recap do those number add up to you actual HP, or the more obvious, do you have 25k HP and the recap tells you about the 40k dmg you took?

myrrrorb14_ESO

Death recap doesn't lie! I really did take 140k from Molag Kena!

DocFrost72

Sounds like a l2p issue.

Sorry, sorry, had to say it once. More seriously, that 20k was when you had low health, where any ability would finish you off. You would have seen something similar if hit with:

Executioner
Killer's blade
Poison injection (5-6k ticks in cyro)
Mage's wrath/fury
A stiff breeze (another joke, sorry.)

Point is, if the ability did, in a single tick, 20k to open and was a channel you'd be right, but when it does 20k over prolly 2 ticks at execute range, it's not really an issue with the *move*.

strikeback1247

Ahh here's my daily shot of salt... Hmmm FeelsGoodMan

I'll be back tomorrow for my next fix

Pallio

L2math, if you have 25k health and Death Recap breaks down the 75k damage that killed you.......most of that was post-mortem. .. 10k poison inject tick and 15k RO tick on your last 1% health............

Pallio

Also VD same concept, visual display errors.....

Minno

When I die to VD, its because I'm CC with no stam.

Pallio

Referring to the other thread where in. 1v1 person had VD on recap, dev explained the visual error and the math of post-mortem damage etc.

Baconlad

Well I'm not gonna lie. RO is the Only ranged attack I have against stamina builds. Dark flare gets dodges ten times out of eleven. And jabs is way too easy to got out of by just dodge rolling through me. So... if ur a stamina build going against a magic Templar, we all use it from full health cause its all we have, you as anstam build haveretty much won the fight 1v1.

KILLu4aCORONA

Ariades_swe wrote: »

I feel ya. My nb is worthless post TG. Stealth is broken. Survivability and damage sucks for nbs (both magicka and stamina) while we have dks chainrooting while tanking zergs, templars one shottiing with stamina jabs or rd. And dont get me started on sorcs that either crystal frag you to death in 3 secs or wb spam you dead.
Why should the least survivable class (nb) do pitiful damage compared to all wb,jabs,cf spamming noobs out there?

This guy again? You seriously need to l2p if you think nightblades are the inferior class post TG.

Destyran

Breh you probs dont even have that much health QQ more.

Destyran

KILLu4aCORONA wrote: »

Ariades_swe wrote: »

I feel ya. My nb is worthless post TG. Stealth is broken. Survivability and damage sucks for nbs (both magicka and stamina) while we have dks chainrooting while tanking zergs, templars one shottiing with stamina jabs or rd. And dont get me started on sorcs that either crystal frag you to death in 3 secs or wb spam you dead.
Why should the least survivable class (nb) do pitiful damage compared to all wb,jabs,cf spamming noobs out there?

This guy again? You seriously need to l2p if you think nightblades are the inferior class post TG.

Lol these kind of lies are what made nb op this update!!

Van_0S

Ei8hTy_SiX wrote: »

A non-ultimate ability should never do more damage than an ultimate. This is a joke. Who is in charge of class balance? Fire them!
BTW, these last updates have murdered my Redguard Stam Sorcerer. I can't compete in PVP. If I come across any player with the slightest bit of competence I am dead. I can't continue to play a game that seems to only care about selling us crap.
I have played this game for too long without seeing any real progress in pvp class balance. You keep pushing out bug ridden patches and selling dlc's instead of fixing things that have been broken for over a year.
Why are gap closers still broken?
Why is the lag so bad?
Why do you have a pts, but then release a patch different than what was tested?
Why does... Nevermind. I know why. You don't care about the players. You already got my money. You keep asking for more. Check my account. I've spent over $500 on this game trusting that you guys would fix the things that need fixing. After a year of you demonstrating my trust was misplaced, I'm only left with questions and frustration.
It feels like you sold Bethesda on the idea of a pvp multiplayer elder scrolls game, only to bait and switch once you were allowed to make the game. It's very apparent that you care little to nothing about Cyrodiil because it makes you no money. The focus of your company is pushing out PVE content and selling crap. How do you expect to maintain with that? I'm done.

Well, Rich Lambert said in the recent ESO live that RD is an excute and it should hit hard like other excutes even crystal frags a non execute ability hits like a truck.
So, I agree with rich and i don't see any problems there.

Now, about your red guard stam sorc.
You will be able to lvl up a new character more easily due to veteran rank removable. So, no worries there....

Aerem

I die from radiant all the time, but if you think that's bad... my buffed up dark flare tooltip is 23.4k, and that is without it being empowered.... so I can absolutely 2 shot people tapping it twice. It is ridiculous.

Ariades_swe

Aerem wrote: »

I die from radiant all the time, but if you think that's bad... my buffed up dark flare tooltip is 23.4k, and that is without it being empowered.... so I can absolutely 2 shot people tapping it twice. It is ridiculous.

Thats nothing. My dark flare tooltip is 38 k.
You need a better build.

failkiwib16_ESO

Ariades_swe wrote: »

I feel ya. My nb is worthless post TG. Stealth is broken. Survivability and damage sucks for nbs (both magicka and stamina) while we have dks chainrooting while tanking zergs, templars one shottiing with stamina jabs or rd. And dont get me started on sorcs that either crystal frag you to death in 3 secs or wb spam you dead.
Why should the least survivable class (nb) do pitiful damage compared to all wb,jabs,cf spamming noobs out there?

Ariades_swe wrote: »

Aerem wrote: »

I die from radiant all the time, but if you think that's bad... my buffed up dark flare tooltip is 23.4k, and that is without it being empowered.... so I can absolutely 2 shot people tapping it twice. It is ridiculous.

Thats nothing. My dark flare tooltip is 38 k.
You need a better build.

Are you just trolling or are you serious? O.o

Alcast

Psychotius wrote: »

Bethesda is a Zenimax company, so I don't think they had to sell them anything since they own them, but moving on...

That 20k radiant is also over time, not one large burst. It was also only allowed to reach that much damage because you were being damaged by one or more other players at the same time. It is powerful, but considering you are a stam sorc you should be able to crit rush or streak the templar and interrupt them. I play a stam sorc as well as my primary pvp toon, still just as viable as ever, and I love seeing someone radiant me. Makes them an instant target for getting rekt.

Also, can I have your stuff?

You can get 23k Jbeam ticks. On low health only tho in PVP. You prolly could get 30k ticks if you are lucky and fully buffed by grp buffs.