Stealth + Proximity Detonation needs attention (screenshot proof)

Solariken

From one of the many *** nightblades that roam the sewers, I'd like to draw some attention to the nearly 10k Proximity Detonation ON A SINGLE TARGET.

THIS IS ON A SINGLE TARGET.

This kind of burst is absolutely ridiculous. Please stop this madness.

EDIT: I was also buffed with Quick Cloak. Prox Det would have been ~12k if I wasn't buffed...

https://dropbox.com/s/00kxh6lxkcu2chf/Untitled.png?dl=0

aLi3nZ

Every high level player seems to be running prox det and kicking all the lowbies ass (like me). It hits me for 10k+ also. This is the first time i have seen someone call for it to be nerfed though. I was wondering why I had heard news that it would be nerfed in an upcoming patch. Any more details on this up coming nerf? Where is the evidence of this and why is all the high levels saying this? I don't want it nerfed, i don't even really want it so hard to get. I just wanna unlock it so i can be one of the high levels kicking the lowbies ass.

btw where is the screenshot? I don't see any screenshot.

lolo_01b16_ESO

I recommend using impen gear and spending some cp on crit resist and hardy. I haven't been hit for more than 5-6k with proxy for a while, using impen medium armour and ~60 cp in hardy.

Knootewoot

So y'all need to nerf yo kids, nerf yo wife, and nerf yo husband cause they nerfin'everybody out here

Please no moah nerfs. We need fixes no nerfs.

Alcast

Proxi was designed as a Zergbuster and now it is used as Single Target dmg skill, gg.

Lore_lai

So explain to me why magicka classes shouldn't have access to hard-hitting skills like stam classes do? Hrmm?

olsborg

It was designed to be a zergbuster, but its now used as a ganktool vs singletargets, its silly.

Johngo0036

Steel tornado hits like a truck as does Wrecking blow....

Now magicka have a skill that hits like a truck and we shout NERF.

Really....

Would like to see you in Cyrodiil when a group of 10 players time their Proxies and all swamp you......

D0ntevenL1ft

Lore_lai wrote: »

So explain to me why magicka classes shouldn't have access to hard-hitting skills like stam classes do? Hrmm?

I wish stamina had a skill i can toss on and forget about for free dps while i cast other skills

Lore_lai

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Lore_lai wrote: »

So explain to me why magicka classes shouldn't have access to hard-hitting skills like stam classes do? Hrmm?

I wish stamina had a skill i can toss on and forget about for free dps while i cast other skills

"Free" DPS? You do know that it costs magicka to cast it yeah?

Just because it's delayed hit and you can time it with other skill doesn't mean it's free.
It even has a freakin red circle around it so you know exactly what the radius is. Not the same thing can be said about Wrecking Blow which is notoriously vague with its hitbox, especially when clipped with a heavy attack.

Not to mention WB cc can be so buggy. Oh wait - Proxi doesn't even have a CC.

Or should I mention those bow heavies?

It's funny though - stamina classes wanting moar damage.

Just spin2win, man, just spin2win. Now you have the axe bleed on top of the execute too

AJ_1988

It doesn't need a nerf. My dark flare hits for more. My proxy atm hits for close to 9k. Why?? Because I maximise spell power and magicka pool so I can do more damage.

Ambush, wrecking blow, steel tornado. Take your pic at stam skills they all can do more than proxy det IF you maximise stamina and weapon damage. Probably only time I'll say. "L2p"

Frawr

Proxy is an awful skill and has been from its inception.

It needs a damage scaling on it. More targets hit = bigger blast. Fewer = smaller.

solynar

All you have to do is time when it will go off. Block, fear, heal. Do something to interupt their burst. Then turn around and kill them.

AJ_1988

Frawr wrote: »

Proxy is an awful skill and has been from its inception.

It needs a damage scaling on it. More targets hit = bigger blast. Fewer = smaller.

I read somewhere from a dev that they are looking at making it like that. Less people less damage or something like that. They don't want it to be a single target skill

Docmandu

solynar wrote: »

All you have to do is time when it will go off. Block, fear, heal. Do something to interupt their burst. Then turn around and kill them.

Block, fear, heal.. yes because everybody plays NB... oh wait.. nevermind.. most actually do by now.

revonine

Unfortunately magic classes (except Sorc) rely on proxy det for comparable burst to stamina classes. We don't have a choice. It's the current crappy meta. It's still inferior to steel tornado in regards AOE.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for changing proxy into how it was intended to function it's gonna be interesting to see how magicka classes adjust. I'm hyped for my new zerg busting career lol.

AJ_1988

revonine wrote: »

Unfortunately magic classes (except Sorc) rely on proxy det for comparable burst to stamina classes. We don't have a choice. It's the current crappy meta. It's still inferior to steel tornado in regards AOE.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for changing proxy into how it was intended to function it's gonna be interesting to see how magicka classes adjust. I'm hyped for my new zerg busting career lol.

I'm also interested to see how it goes. Tho I can always substitute it for solar barrage and still do good dps. Instant cast and 20% extra damage

Jade1986

It should scale up in damage depending on the amount of targets it hits. 1 Target should do minimal damage.

It was designed as a zerg buster, let it be a zerg buster then.

solynar

Docmandu wrote: »

solynar wrote: »

All you have to do is time when it will go off. Block, fear, heal. Do something to interupt their burst. Then turn around and kill them.

Block, fear, heal.. yes because everybody plays NB... oh wait.. nevermind.. most actually do by now.

Pretty sure everyone can block or self heal/shield. "Do something to interupt their burst. " pretty much covers everybody else.

Ender1310

Nb's can cloak invigorate away. The issue with proxy is the skill I think. At least with wreck blow you have to be facing a forever dive rolling moving target proxy you could have you back to me and spam frag/ meteor/ curse. But the real players make it work I've seen spypherpk take like three to the face. I can't for the life of me but they do

Soris

So 9.7k detonation is super op but the 6.8k concealed weapon is not??!! One is a time bomb you place on yourself in every 6 secs, the other is highly spamable ability that can be used with animation cancelling for more damage.

Forestd16b14_ESO

Now who do you think is the high level player with magic det?

#SpidermanThread

Soneca798

Problem with proxy is that it's not doing what it was made to do, and judging how the last eso lives have been going, some sort of adjustment is probably coming to this skill. I don't think it should be nerfed, but when you design a skill to be an aoe zergbuster and it's almost exclusively being used as a single target burst you have a problem there.

eventide03b14a_ESO

Solariken wrote: »

From one of the many *** nightblades that roam the sewers, I'd like to draw some attention to the nearly 10k Proximity Detonation ON A SINGLE TARGET.

THIS IS ON A SINGLE TARGET.

This kind of burst is absolutely ridiculous. Please stop this madness.

EDIT: I was also buffed with Quick Cloak. Prox Det would have been ~12k if I wasn't buffed...

https://dropbox.com/s/00kxh6lxkcu2chf/Untitled.png?dl=0

I have been hit harder than that by other spells. So any spell over 9K needs a nerf?

eventide03b14a_ESO

Lore_lai wrote: »

D0ntevenL1ft wrote: »

Lore_lai wrote: »

So explain to me why magicka classes shouldn't have access to hard-hitting skills like stam classes do? Hrmm?

I wish stamina had a skill i can toss on and forget about for free dps while i cast other skills

"Free" DPS? You do know that it costs magicka to cast it yeah?

Just because it's delayed hit and you can time it with other skill doesn't mean it's free.
It even has a freakin red circle around it so you know exactly what the radius is. Not the same thing can be said about Wrecking Blow which is notoriously vague with its hitbox, especially when clipped with a heavy attack.

Not to mention WB cc can be so buggy. Oh wait - Proxi doesn't even have a CC.

Or should I mention those bow heavies?

It's funny though - stamina classes wanting moar damage.

Just spin2win, man, just spin2win. Now you have the axe bleed on top of the execute too

You can turtle up to avoid the damage you have plenty of time. It's so obvious when you have it on you. How do people that are paying attention die from this?

Soneca798

I'd just like to point out how much I love that at a certain point of every nerf thread I've seen people just stop talking about the skill the thread was made for and start pointing fingers at other "op" abilities they're mad at.

Kr3do

Its a massive red circle arround the enemy? Why dont you just block?

Dkill

Solariken wrote: »

From one of the many *** nightblades that roam the sewers, I'd like to draw some attention to the nearly 10k Proximity Detonation ON A SINGLE TARGET.

THIS IS ON A SINGLE TARGET.

This kind of burst is absolutely ridiculous. Please stop this madness.

EDIT: I was also buffed with Quick Cloak. Prox Det would have been ~12k if I wasn't buffed...

https://dropbox.com/s/00kxh6lxkcu2chf/Untitled.png?dl=0

Stop asking for Nerf and ask for a server fix, everytime Zos do increment or maintenance to try to nerf your request the server gets worst and they brake a different thing. SO STOP ASKING FOR NERF

Solariken

Dkill wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

From one of the many *** nightblades that roam the sewers, I'd like to draw some attention to the nearly 10k Proximity Detonation ON A SINGLE TARGET.

THIS IS ON A SINGLE TARGET.

This kind of burst is absolutely ridiculous. Please stop this madness.

EDIT: I was also buffed with Quick Cloak. Prox Det would have been ~12k if I wasn't buffed...

https://dropbox.com/s/00kxh6lxkcu2chf/Untitled.png?dl=0

Stop asking for Nerf and ask for a server fix, everytime Zos do increment or maintenance to try to nerf your request the server gets worst and they brake a different thing. SO STOP ASKING FOR NERF

This skill is completely busted. Being obliterated from stealth before you have time to react is not quality gameplay. It's garbage design. Stop defending this trash.

There is no "server fix" for stupid.

1Grumpy_dunmer1

Solariken wrote: »

Dkill wrote: »

Solariken wrote: »

From one of the many *** nightblades that roam the sewers, I'd like to draw some attention to the nearly 10k Proximity Detonation ON A SINGLE TARGET.

THIS IS ON A SINGLE TARGET.

This kind of burst is absolutely ridiculous. Please stop this madness.

EDIT: I was also buffed with Quick Cloak. Prox Det would have been ~12k if I wasn't buffed...

https://dropbox.com/s/00kxh6lxkcu2chf/Untitled.png?dl=0

Stop asking for Nerf and ask for a server fix, everytime Zos do increment or maintenance to try to nerf your request the server gets worst and they brake a different thing. SO STOP ASKING FOR NERF

This skill is completely busted. Being obliterated from stealth before you have time to react is not quality gameplay. It's garbage design. Stop defending this trash.

There is no "server fix" for stupid.

Camo hunter is worse

Solariken

Kr3do wrote: »

Its a massive red circle arround the enemy? Why dont you just block?

You serious? This happened in IC, and it was a skilled nightblade who specializes in 1-second kills. If you PvP at all, you know that the red circle appears when the ability is cast but does NOT move with the nightblade after he uses Cloak. So a NB with half a brain will cast it in the hallway, cloak, and run into your room and burst you for 3 times your health pool. Don't act like this is acceptable, because it's not.