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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

I really think overload needs a nerf. Big time.

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  • Infinite12
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    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.

    Lol. Anyone can use defensive stance...IF you run sword and board. Lol. Yes it's easier to dodge in 1v1's but that's NEVER where you see this. It's from sorcs that sit back or off to the sides in zergs that spam this stupid ability.
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    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.
    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.
    LOL, eclipse...
    You know is sucks, right? Even bad sorcs know how to CC break.
    "Anyone can use Defensive Stance." Players changing their entire build to counter 1 ultimate sounds really fair.
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  • Cinnamon_Spider
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    Infinite12 wrote: »
    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.

    Lol. Anyone can use defensive stance...IF you run sword and board. Lol. Yes it's easier to dodge in 1v1's but that's NEVER where you see this. It's from sorcs that sit back or off to the sides in zergs that spam this stupid ability.
    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.
    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.
    LOL, eclipse...
    You know is sucks, right? Even bad sorcs know how to CC break.
    "Anyone can use Defensive Stance." Players changing their entire build to counter 1 ultimate sounds really fair.
    You can choose not to use it, but it is a very powerful ability. I dropped resto staff and went destro/sword and board and use this against other sorcs all the time.
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    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Infinite12 wrote: »
    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.

    Lol. Anyone can use defensive stance...IF you run sword and board. Lol. Yes it's easier to dodge in 1v1's but that's NEVER where you see this. It's from sorcs that sit back or off to the sides in zergs that spam this stupid ability.
    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.
    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.
    LOL, eclipse...
    You know is sucks, right? Even bad sorcs know how to CC break.
    "Anyone can use Defensive Stance." Players changing their entire build to counter 1 ultimate sounds really fair.
    Apply same logic when fighting Nightblades. Counters, counters counters!

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    Edited by Lava_Croft on 25 January 2016 11:58
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    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.
    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.
    LOL, eclipse...
    You know is sucks, right? Even bad sorcs know how to CC break.
    "Anyone can use Defensive Stance." Players changing their entire build to counter 1 ultimate sounds really fair.

    You know defensive stance is used all the time by players to reflect all sorts? Including meteor and that another ultimate, so there is 2 ultimates is can counter,

    It's also useful when you see a sorc throw a frag at you or someone about to hit you with snipe, you it and then go immediately on the attack as there own hits them,

    When I'm on my DK I really love reflecting a meteor and as its landing dragon leap at the victim Erm I mean target :wink:
  • aLi3nZ
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    People still getting so mad at overload users while they spam their ambush and wrecking blow. So many elitist trying to tell people its broken and not to use it.
    Edited by aLi3nZ on 25 January 2016 14:00
  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Looks like your wish was granted
    Edited by IcyDeadPeople on 25 January 2016 19:17
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  • danno8
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    lol, mission accomplished OP.
  • Cinbri
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    That was riddiculus nerf of Overload :D
  • aLi3nZ
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    So what are the details of the nerf?
    I couldn't see anything in patch notes. So I guess stealth nerf ?
    Edited by aLi3nZ on 25 January 2016 21:08
  • Lucky28
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    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.

    Also stack evasion....
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  • IcyDeadPeople
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    Lucky28 wrote: »
    Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    The problem with overload is that the second someone pops a reflect you just nuked yourself to death. Any half descent dk will just flatten you out.
    DK can reflect. Templar can Eclipse. Stamina builds can roll dodge multiple Overloads. Anyone can use Defensive Stance.

    Also stack evasion....

    Sadly, that doesn't work anymore (used to run Spectre's Eye, Ash Cloud, Shuffle and Sparks).

    Or are you talking about minor and major?
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  • strikeback1247
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    aLi3nZ wrote: »
    So what are the details of the nerf?
    I couldn't see anything in patch notes. So I guess stealth nerf ?

    It got deleted from the game... Almost.
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  • Cody
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    imredneckson wrote: »
    Infinite12 wrote: »
    20-30k damage regukarly from this attack, from a class that's already op. Kinda ridiculous.

    Easy ways to counter overload
    DKs-reflective scales, shuffle, defensive stance, stack shields, roll dodge
    Templar- shuffle, defensive stance, eclipse, stack shields, roll dodge
    NB- cloak, shuffle, double take, defensive stance, stack shields, roll dodge
    Sorcs-shuffle, defensive stance, stack shields, roll dodge

    stop using a 20% dodge chance ability as a consistent counter. it is not. I do not think overload is OP, but an ability that grants 1/5 dodge chance is not going to counter it.
  • Xqluded
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    I agree with the OP, nerf overload. I'm tired of one shotting myself when a DK uses reflective scales on me!

    Sorry OP, Overload is just fine as it is. If they erf overload they have to nerf: [Insert Ultimate ability here]
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    Heindrich wrote: »
    NO. MORE. NERFS.

    Literally no good PvP sorcs use Overload except to access 3rd utility bar.



    Literally every templar main would give up at least 1 of the templar ultimates for access to a third bar only.

    Btw anyone who slots overload and doesnt use that kind of damage and mana return to their advantage is not a good sorc...

    Thanks for trying to look leet for the rest of us tho.
  • Dkill
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    Infinite12 wrote: »
    20-30k damage regukarly from this attack, from a class that's already op. Kinda ridiculous.

    Another asking for Nerf wowowowoww a game braker Overload lol LERN HOW TO PLAY
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    tplink3r1 wrote: »
    "Anyone can use Defensive Stance." Players changing their entire build to counter 1 ultimate sounds really fair.

    Is your dodge roll broken?

    Sword and Board carries benefits above and beyond Defensive Stance FYI....
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    It has alot of counter play, and it's really easy to deal with. For PvE it's kind of ridicolous but I think it's good as it is.
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    Really easy to deal with in any kind of small scale combat, stupidly OP in the current 'let's hide in zerg and spam these 10k attacks' meta. Just like Snipe.
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    To be fair i do think the cost needs increasing, 15 ult for a 13k hit in pvp. Some ult that cost 100 don't do that much dmg or give access to a 3rd ability bar and good mana return.

    Double or triple the cost per cast. If people are going to spam 13k LA then make so they can't spam 14 13000+ dmg LA for the cost of a meteor.
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    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    To be fair i do think the cost needs increasing, 15 ult for a 13k hit in pvp. Some ult that cost 100 don't do that much dmg or give access to a 3rd ability bar and good mana return.

    Double or triple the cost per cast. If people are going to spam 13k LA then make so they can't spam 14 13000+ dmg LA for the cost of a meteor.

    Except that's even worse for PvE than a smaller ultimate pool.
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    actually they should change overload to work like soul harvest and rework the sorc base abilities to make them viable in pve.
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  • Infinite12
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    And also the people who keep talking about how it's easy to dodge, keep in mind that while in pvp in this game the majority of the time the animations and beams are broken and you won't see the overloads coming.
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    To be fair i do think the cost needs increasing, 15 ult for a 13k hit in pvp. Some ult that cost 100 don't do that much dmg or give access to a 3rd ability bar and good mana return.

    Double or triple the cost per cast. If people are going to spam 13k LA then make so they can't spam 14 13000+ dmg LA for the cost of a meteor.

    Except that's even worse for PvE than a smaller ultimate pool.

    Well at the moment sorc can burst down an entire boss with just their ult, they shouldn't be able to do that.

    Normal dps rotation + ult (if cost increases) will still make them do slightly more than most other classes.
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    Infinite12 wrote: »
    And also the people who keep talking about how it's easy to dodge, keep in mind that while in pvp in this game the majority of the time the animations and beams are broken and you won't see the overloads coming.
    Then shouldn't the call be to fix the game rather than to nerf a skill?
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    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    To be fair i do think the cost needs increasing, 15 ult for a 13k hit in pvp. Some ult that cost 100 don't do that much dmg or give access to a 3rd ability bar and good mana return.

    Double or triple the cost per cast. If people are going to spam 13k LA then make so they can't spam 14 13000+ dmg LA for the cost of a meteor.

    Except that's even worse for PvE than a smaller ultimate pool.

    Well at the moment sorc can burst down an entire boss with just their ult, they shouldn't be able to do that.

    Normal dps rotation + ult (if cost increases) will still make them do slightly more than most other classes.

    Then why on earth would you increase ultimate cost instead of decreasing the pool?
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    Xqluded wrote: »
    I agree with the OP, nerf overload. I'm tired of one shotting myself when a DK uses reflective scales on me!

    Sorry OP, Overload is just fine as it is. If they erf overload they have to nerf: [Insert Ultimate ability here]

    Lol
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    ToRelax wrote: »
    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    ToRelax wrote: »
    leepalmer95 wrote: »
    To be fair i do think the cost needs increasing, 15 ult for a 13k hit in pvp. Some ult that cost 100 don't do that much dmg or give access to a 3rd ability bar and good mana return.

    Double or triple the cost per cast. If people are going to spam 13k LA then make so they can't spam 14 13000+ dmg LA for the cost of a meteor.

    Except that's even worse for PvE than a smaller ultimate pool.

    Well at the moment sorc can burst down an entire boss with just their ult, they shouldn't be able to do that.

    Normal dps rotation + ult (if cost increases) will still make them do slightly more than most other classes.

    Then why on earth would you increase ultimate cost instead of decreasing the pool?

    Because Ult generate quite quickly, if they want to spam 5x 13K attack then they'll have to save for it, not just save 100 ult.

    Other classes have ult's costing 250+ that do way less dmg and are less useful.
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