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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

The going Rate of Max Magicka on Sorcs

  • SemiD4rkness
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    54k+

    Props to @Dracane

    MVmmNa1.jpg

    i guess this are the kinde of mage i cant even scratch the shild

    #NERFSORCS

    It's not a pvp build. Recovery too low (although not as bad as I'd expect), not enough room on bars for useful skills.

    And that's the PvP version:

    hFCHmyU.jpg

    It's doable to run with that magicka recovery, but that just isn't the same playstyle at all, more a "pew pew BOOM you dead fight over 2.374 seconds".

    Also, more magicka = bigger shields = less recasts required

    Finally somebody who understands how to play sorc.
    Shieldbreaker must be a pain in the ass tho

    And before I forget it

    Buff Sorc
    Buff NB
    Nerf DK
    Nerf Templar

    bc mainstream n stuff

    Man buffing Dks is a dangerous *** haha specially stamina ones. They're such beasts right now.
  • Ganj
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
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    Props to @Dracane

    MVmmNa1.jpg

    i guess this are the kinde of mage i cant even scratch the shild

    #NERFSORCS

    Shield Breaker. Then he runs like a rabbit.
  • Ganj
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    Asmael wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    54k+

    Props to @Dracane

    MVmmNa1.jpg

    i guess this are the kinde of mage i cant even scratch the shild

    #NERFSORCS

    It's not a pvp build. Recovery too low (although not as bad as I'd expect), not enough room on bars for useful skills.

    And that's the PvP version:

    hFCHmyU.jpg

    It's doable to run with that magicka recovery, but that just isn't the same playstyle at all, more a "pew pew BOOM you dead fight over 2.374 seconds".

    Also, more magicka = bigger shields = less recasts required

    And again shield breaker bom bom this chick runs away like a rabbit.
  • revonine
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    For whatever reason Shieldbreaker is non existent on PS4 EU. So magicka Sorcs are tearing people up and tanking armies unchallenged.
  • Master_Kas
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    Ganj wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    54k+

    Props to @Dracane

    MVmmNa1.jpg

    i guess this are the kinde of mage i cant even scratch the shild

    #NERFSORCS

    It's not a pvp build. Recovery too low (although not as bad as I'd expect), not enough room on bars for useful skills.

    And that's the PvP version:

    hFCHmyU.jpg

    It's doable to run with that magicka recovery, but that just isn't the same playstyle at all, more a "pew pew BOOM you dead fight over 2.374 seconds".

    Also, more magicka = bigger shields = less recasts required

    And again shield breaker bom bom this chick runs away like a rabbit.

    Or she runs overload attacks with the morph which heals on crits of entropy. 11-12k crits if not more while you toss out 2k/sec. You'll want to avoid Those or fry xD
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  • Ganj
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Ganj wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    54k+

    Props to @Dracane

    MVmmNa1.jpg

    i guess this are the kinde of mage i cant even scratch the shild

    #NERFSORCS

    It's not a pvp build. Recovery too low (although not as bad as I'd expect), not enough room on bars for useful skills.

    And that's the PvP version:

    hFCHmyU.jpg

    It's doable to run with that magicka recovery, but that just isn't the same playstyle at all, more a "pew pew BOOM you dead fight over 2.374 seconds".

    Also, more magicka = bigger shields = less recasts required

    And again shield breaker bom bom this chick runs away like a rabbit.

    Or she runs overload attacks with the morph which heals on crits of entropy. 11-12k crits if not more while you toss out 2k/sec. You'll want to avoid Those or fry xD

    Not really. I see him in IC almost everyday. When ever i hit with just one basic attack with shield breaker he just flies to other district.

    Plus overload attacks easy to dodge for a nb anyway. Shuffle , dodge roll..
    Edited by Ganj on 25 December 2015 17:04
  • Valencer
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    35k (36k on shield bar) on an imperial (no max magicka racial) sorc running a sustain-ish build with 1750 mag regen,1000 stam regen and 24k health. Will probably switch to a different gear setup soon because the relatively lower damage makes it difficult to win outnumbered fights and sustain builds aren't that great anymore anyway.
  • Alcast
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    Derra wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    54k+

    Props to @Dracane

    MVmmNa1.jpg

    i guess this are the kinde of mage i cant even scratch the shild

    #NERFSORCS

    It's not a pvp build. Recovery too low (although not as bad as I'd expect), not enough room on bars for useful skills.

    And that's the PvP version:

    hFCHmyU.jpg

    It's doable to run with that magicka recovery, but that just isn't the same playstyle at all, more a "pew pew BOOM you dead fight over 2.374 seconds".

    Also, more magicka = bigger shields = less recasts required

    Finally somebody who understands how to play sorc.
    Shieldbreaker must be a pain in the ass tho

    And before I forget it

    Buff Sorc
    Buff NB
    Nerf DK
    Nerf Templar

    bc mainstream n stuff

    The problem is - playing with only 9 skills tops is boring as hell.

    the only question I care is: Is it effective or not? If it is, then use it, if not the ditch it, change, adapt, test, repeat.
    Edited by Alcast on 26 December 2015 00:11
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  • Hyssia
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    Running roughly 31k max magicka as a breton sorc. :^)
  • Septimus_Magna
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    37.5k in pvp without Inner Light and Bound Aegis, 43.2k in pve with Inner Light and Bound Aegis.
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  • Tankqull
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    54k+

    Props to @Dracane

    MVmmNa1.jpg

    i guess this are the kinde of mage i cant even scratch the shild

    #NERFSORCS

    It's not a pvp build. Recovery too low (although not as bad as I'd expect), not enough room on bars for useful skills.

    And that's the PvP version:

    hFCHmyU.jpg

    It's doable to run with that magicka recovery, but that just isn't the same playstyle at all, more a "pew pew BOOM you dead fight over 2.374 seconds".

    Also, more magicka = bigger shields = less recasts required

    Finally somebody who understands how to play sorc.
    Shieldbreaker must be a pain in the ass tho

    And before I forget it

    Buff Sorc
    Buff NB
    Nerf DK
    Nerf Templar

    bc mainstream n stuff

    The problem is - playing with only 9 skills tops is boring as hell.

    the only question I care is: Is it effective or not? If it is, then use it, if not the ditch it, change, adapt, test, repeat.

    its effective in pve - completly useless vs any semi competent player in pvp.
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  • pronkg
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    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse
  • revonine
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    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    Dat regen though, unless it's PvE
    Edited by revonine on 28 December 2015 11:13
  • olsborg
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    My sorc is atm:

    37k magicka, 2888 spelldmg(buffed with staff) and 2.2k magicka regen.

    Altho currently im playing my nb mostly.

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  • pronkg
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    revonine wrote: »
    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    Dat regen though :S

    Is more than enough :)

    Using either elemental drain/pots or overload to regen my magicka.

    I used to do with 870 regen, but for maelstrom arena I like to have a tad more just to be safe

    Edited by pronkg on 28 December 2015 11:15
  • pronkg
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    revonine wrote: »
    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    Dat regen though, unless it's PvE

    For pvp I run a totally different build though yes
  • Ezareth
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    Ganj wrote: »
    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Ganj wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Asmael wrote: »
    54k+

    Props to @Dracane

    MVmmNa1.jpg

    i guess this are the kinde of mage i cant even scratch the shild

    #NERFSORCS

    It's not a pvp build. Recovery too low (although not as bad as I'd expect), not enough room on bars for useful skills.

    And that's the PvP version:

    hFCHmyU.jpg

    It's doable to run with that magicka recovery, but that just isn't the same playstyle at all, more a "pew pew BOOM you dead fight over 2.374 seconds".

    Also, more magicka = bigger shields = less recasts required

    And again shield breaker bom bom this chick runs away like a rabbit.

    Or she runs overload attacks with the morph which heals on crits of entropy. 11-12k crits if not more while you toss out 2k/sec. You'll want to avoid Those or fry xD

    Not really. I see him in IC almost everyday. When ever i hit with just one basic attack with shield breaker he just flies to other district.

    Plus overload attacks easy to dodge for a nb anyway. Shuffle , dodge roll..

    Depending on your attacks sure. I 2-shot people constantly with my overload build. If you're using a bow with shield breaker as a NB you're dead. And if you want to play the dodge roll game there is heavy attacks and Velocious curse...kills them slower but just the same.

    The only two players who have given me any issues with shield breaker are two of the best duelers in the game and would give me almost as much trouble without it. Out of dozens of players running shield breaker the overwhelming majority of them die extremely easy because shield breaker is a crutch for skill.
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  • Alcast
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    revonine wrote: »
    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    Dat regen though, unless it's PvE

    You do not need regen if enemy is dead in 2s
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  • Derra
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    Alcast wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    Dat regen though, unless it's PvE

    You do not need regen if enemy is dead in 2s

    The only way you´ll achieve that is by ganking people with overload out of stealth.
    But any stamina gank build does that a million times better.

    Sorc is about setting up a burst which is (sadly) telegraphed on the opponent.
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  • Ezareth
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    Derra wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    revonine wrote: »
    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    Dat regen though, unless it's PvE

    You do not need regen if enemy is dead in 2s

    The only way you´ll achieve that is by ganking people with overload out of stealth.
    But any stamina gank build does that a million times better.

    Sorc is about setting up a burst which is (sadly) telegraphed on the opponent.

    When I die it isn't because I run out of magicka...unless it's because I'm fleeing a horde of zergers and the successive bolt escape penalty runs me dry. In that case regen won't help. When I die it's because I run out of stamina to break free, get instagibbed by a crit-charge train or am bugged and can't break free with enough stamina to do so. This is 95%+ of my deaths in PvP.

    The days of the long drawn out battles are over for sorcs. It's now the age of the glass cannon. Max shield size and kill as many of the horde until they take you down with them. Rinse repeat.
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  • hammayolettuce
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    45k magicka
    24k health
    15k stamina

    2400 sp dmg

    1600 regen

    Tri food unbuffed regen and sp dmg.

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    Buff Sorc
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  • Jsmalls
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    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    What do you run to keep that much spell damage while still having at least over 1000 regen, anytime I have that high of spell power my regen is around 650.
  • Derra
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    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    What do you run to keep that much spell damage while still having at least over 1000 regen, anytime I have that high of spell power my regen is around 650.

    As Altmer sorcerer with 100cp into magica recovery it´s pretty much impossible to drop below 870 magica reg. Add the potion buff and you´re at 1100 to 1200.
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  • Ezareth
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    45k magicka
    24k health
    15k stamina

    2400 sp dmg

    1600 regen

    Tri food unbuffed regen and sp dmg.

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    Is the 45K magicka on a sword/board bar?

    Need more spell damage! I need to try tri-stat food again to see if the extra stamina is worth the loss of health and magicka.
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  • hammayolettuce
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    45k magicka
    24k health
    15k stamina

    2400 sp dmg

    1600 regen

    Tri food unbuffed regen and sp dmg.

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    Is the 45K magicka on a sword/board bar?

    Need more spell damage! I need to try tri-stat food again to see if the extra stamina is worth the loss of health and magicka.

    It's using destro resto .. More spell damage would be nice but it's already fairly easy to kill people with the damage as it is. I'm sure dropping a bit of max mag for more spell damage bonuses wouldn't hurt but I only use hardened ward so I tend to try to push its size the most I can.

    I love the tri stat food with the undaunted passive.

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  • pronkg
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    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    What do you run to keep that much spell damage while still having at least over 1000 regen, anytime I have that high of spell power my regen is around 650.

    Its with with either molag kena or succesion proc.

    Can get higher if I trade regen glyphs for magicka youll get over 4k spd

    On average it will be around 3500. Which is more then enough ofcourse
  • Jsmalls
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    pronkg wrote: »
    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    What do you run to keep that much spell damage while still having at least over 1000 regen, anytime I have that high of spell power my regen is around 650.

    Its with with either molag kena or succesion proc.

    Can get higher if I trade regen glyphs for magicka youll get over 4k spd

    On average it will be around 3500. Which is more then enough ofcourse

    From what I heard succession doesn't boost your spell damage entirely just on one element, Kena would do the trick for sure. Unfortunately I'm 50 gold keys in and still no shoulders...

    But yeah I'm a Breton so I stack into magician instead, boosting that 650 with %s into Magicka recovery feels like beating a dead dog.
    Edited by Jsmalls on 29 December 2015 19:48
  • pronkg
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    pronkg wrote: »
    pronkg wrote: »
    Running 43k max magicka
    3.9k spell damage duals
    1100 regen
    63% crit

    This is fully buffed ofcourse

    What do you run to keep that much spell damage while still having at least over 1000 regen, anytime I have that high of spell power my regen is around 650.

    Its with with either molag kena or succesion proc.

    Can get higher if I trade regen glyphs for magicka youll get over 4k spd

    On average it will be around 3500. Which is more then enough ofcourse

    From what I heard succession doesn't boost your spell damage entirely just on one element, Kena would do the trick for sure. Unfortunately I'm 50 gold keys in and still no shoulders...

    But yeah I'm a Breton so I stack into magician instead, boosting that 650 with %s into Magicka recovery feels like beating a dead dog.

    Jup but with kena succesion and jullianos you can get a 1000 extra spelldamage on meteor or overload for exemple getting to Nearly 5k if you want

    Anyway.theres your answer.

    Hit like a truck and good sustain is easymode for all content includinf vMA :)
    Edited by pronkg on 29 December 2015 20:22
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