Sunshine's (Early Bright) Magicka Nightblade build - Blood Flow

TheBull

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR3GC15YVpE
This build was born in the Imperial City. It excels in 1vX Situation and is solid in duels. Enjoy!

Stats
64/0/0

Consumable
Max Magicka/Max Health

Gear
5 light - 1 heavy - 1 medium - Destruction Staff- Restoration Staff
5 piece Twilight's Embrace - impenetrable
2 piece Malubeth - impenetrable
3 Piece Arcane Willpower

Skills
1st Bar
Swallow Soul
Impale
Merciless Resolve
Entropy
Piercing Mark

2nd Bar
Refreshing Path
Rapid Regeneration
Healing Ward
Mass Hysteria
Dark Cloak

Great build bull. I'm trying out a variation of this. I missed what mundus stone you are using. Have you considered the ritual and then that would free you up to use kraganecs hope? Unless you are already using the ritual as part of this build...hope would give more spell damage and magicka regen.

Anyways, this build is sick. I pugged through white tower yesterday healing myself and doing hightest dps. I only have 250 cps so I can't sustain myself like you but it has boosted my survivabilty in pvp while maintaining high dps significantly. I can now stalemate a magicka sorc where before I would die to crystal frags spam. Stamina sorcs is much harder.

How do you deal with the stamina version of this build that I see popping up in pvp? I'm seeing a lot of never endless stamina drain builds using vigor to accomplish the same thing as you but I can't out resource them. Add wearwolf and two handers and these people seem to be unbeatable with very high burst and insane healing. They have endless stamina and heal themselves right back up. Maybe it's my low cp count but would like to know your thoughts.

Awesome man. Against stam sorcs I make sure I have my HoTs running. Before I do anything else I get them up then begin to put up buffs and debuffs. Now a days against any good players you have to time your burst. I've found that the constant pressure from heavy/funnels along with shades/cripple eventually wear them down to execute range.

Thanks to some duels with great magicka sorcs like Tempest I've learned that this build has the ability to turtle back up to full magicka with the resto staff if need be. I haven't been put in a situation where I had to do this with a stam sorc though.

edit- I'm running the Ritual.

LegacyDM

How do you handle Templars spamming toppling charge and puncturing sweeps? I can't heal fast enough and put out enough burst quick enough. The Templar spam in IC is getting ridiculous.

Master_Kas

If you're running destro/resto build , try slotting siphoning attacks morph. If you constantly weave light / small heavy attacks with funnel health/swallow soul you'll have crazy sustain for both magicka and stamina.

On my imperial magicka nb with 7/7 light swallow soul costs 714 magicka.
I get 972 magicka/stamina back per light attack, and on top of that I have 1.8k mana regen.

Very interesting build OP. Im toying with something similar just that I'm using:

4 seducer (3 armor, 1 destro, 1 resto)
4 martial knowledge (4 armor)
3x willpower (jewerly)

All gear is purple v14 sadly and I'm not the ideal choice for magicka build as I'm imperial but still works.

Also: efficent purge is a must for all the root/snare/piercing mark spam ^^

TheBull

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

How do you handle Templars spamming toppling charge and puncturing sweeps? I can't heal fast enough and put out enough burst quick enough. The Templar spam in IC is getting ridiculous.

Well built magicka templars can be a pain. The thing is you rarely see them. I run disease on my destro staff. For most magicka temps I meet that plus soul harvest is enough. This build out heals their sweep. For the rare well built magicka temp there is a good chance of things ending in a draw.

KenaPKK

TheBull wrote: »

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR3GC15YVpE
This build was born in the Imperial City. It excels in 1vX Situation and is solid in duels. Enjoy!

Stats
64/0/0

Consumable
Max Magicka/Max Health

Gear
5 light - 1 heavy - 1 medium - Destruction Staff- Restoration Staff
5 piece Twilight's Embrace - impenetrable
2 piece Malubeth - impenetrable
3 Piece Arcane Willpower

Skills
1st Bar
Swallow Soul
Impale
Merciless Resolve
Entropy
Piercing Mark

2nd Bar
Refreshing Path
Rapid Regeneration
Healing Ward
Mass Hysteria
Dark Cloak

Great build bull. I'm trying out a variation of this. I missed what mundus stone you are using. Have you considered the ritual and then that would free you up to use kraganecs hope? Unless you are already using the ritual as part of this build...hope would give more spell damage and magicka regen.

Anyways, this build is sick. I pugged through white tower yesterday healing myself and doing hightest dps. I only have 250 cps so I can't sustain myself like you but it has boosted my survivabilty in pvp while maintaining high dps significantly. I can now stalemate a magicka sorc where before I would die to crystal frags spam. Stamina sorcs is much harder.

How do you deal with the stamina version of this build that I see popping up in pvp? I'm seeing a lot of never endless stamina drain builds using vigor to accomplish the same thing as you but I can't out resource them. Add wearwolf and two handers and these people seem to be unbeatable with very high burst and insane healing. They have endless stamina and heal themselves right back up. Maybe it's my low cp count but would like to know your thoughts.

edit- I'm running the Ritual.

Sadist >.<

So much healing. In your videos, you're literally standing inside entire enemy groups tanking them, not even breaking free most of the time when you're cced. I was going to ask how you get by with low stam regen, but now I see you don't even block or break free most of the time. You just heal tank.

Shaggygaming

Great build. I use a similar build when playing in a small group. People underestimate how much healing can be achieved for yourself and small group while still doing damage.

ToRelax

Do you know wich HoTs are stacking from different players?
Out of Funnel Health, Regeneration, Refreshing Path, that is.

TheBull

ToRelax wrote: »

Do you know wich HoTs are stacking from different players?
Out of Funnel Health, Regeneration, Refreshing Path, that is.

Funnel and I'm pretty sure paths do stacks. I'm not sure about rapids.

Ashamray

Build is pretty good, but damage is reflectable... Maybe Concealed weapon needed?

Jbugz97

@TheBull
great video + build
so no points in bastion CP ,for ward couldnt tell much on video but do you use healing ward much in this build. does quick recovery help much with healing ward.or blessing CP

i agree with you i feel like the extra attack from staff out beats the buff from duel wield thats why im still using staff.

ChefZero

Ashamray wrote: »

Build is pretty good, but damage is reflectable... Maybe Concealed weapon needed?

Definitely No! Concealed Weapon is very weak atm since it's dodgeable. This skill is to expensive for his setup. Also, there are just a few Magicka-DKs out there atm, cause most of them rerolled to Stamina.


@TheBull I recommend to use Blessing of Restoration or Cleanse instead of Healing Ward, cause it's sadly weak atm and you have 0 Points in Bastion.
Blessing of Restoration is cheaper, also great heal and additionel nice-to-have resistances.
Cleanse is nice against healdebuffs and it's worth it with your healthpool.

Ashamray

ChefZero wrote: »

Ashamray wrote: »

Build is pretty good, but damage is reflectable... Maybe Concealed weapon needed?

Definitely No! Concealed Weapon is very weak atm since it's dodgeable. This skill is to expensive for his setup. Also, there are just a few Magicka-DKs out there atm, cause most of them rerolled to Stamina.

There is no permadodge now.
I run with Defensive stance from S&B and it is very powerful against magic projectiles builds. Absolutely negates meteors, sorc's overload and NB's fully charged heavy attack with staff from Cloak.

Though... It's just a matter of taste. I hate when my spells are reflected )

ToRelax

Ashamray wrote: »

ChefZero wrote: »

Ashamray wrote: »

Build is pretty good, but damage is reflectable... Maybe Concealed weapon needed?

Definitely No! Concealed Weapon is very weak atm since it's dodgeable. This skill is to expensive for his setup. Also, there are just a few Magicka-DKs out there atm, cause most of them rerolled to Stamina.

There is no permadodge now.
I run with Defensive stance from S&B and it is very powerful against magic projectiles builds. Absolutely negates meteors, sorc's overload and NB's fully charged heavy attack with staff from Cloak.

Though... It's just a matter of taste. I hate when my spells are reflected )

Yeah, Overload is pretty much hard countered by defensive posture. But against weaving with a staff it deoesn't help all that much, won't be able to reflect meteors most of the time then either.

Plus, since the scales nerf, a group of 3+ players weaving projectiles can wear down a DK by just spamming into their wings.

1Grumpy_dunmer1

TheBull wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR3GC15YVpE
This build was born in the Imperial City. It excels in 1vX Situation and is solid in duels. Enjoy!

Stats
64/0/0

Consumable
Max Magicka/Max Health

Gear
5 light - 1 heavy - 1 medium - Destruction Staff- Restoration Staff
5 piece Twilight's Embrace - impenetrable
2 piece Malubeth - impenetrable
3 Piece Arcane Willpower

Skills
1st Bar
Swallow Soul
Impale
Merciless Resolve
Entropy
Piercing Mark

2nd Bar
Refreshing Path
Rapid Regeneration
Healing Ward
Mass Hysteria
Dark Cloak

How's that refreshing path treating you?!

Wreuntzylla

Is this build dead without bugged refreshing path or did it work before bug?

Path is healing for about 800/sec atm.

TheBull

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Is this build dead without bugged refreshing path or did it work before bug?

Path is healing for about 800/sec atm.

Long before the bug. I was getting 750-800 every .5 secs. Now it's around 1500ish ever second.

Wreuntzylla

Your numbers sound like PvE numbers. But this is a PvP build?

TheBull

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Your numbers sound like PvE numbers. But this is a PvP build?

Yep

LegacyDM

whats your health? I find that having all the regen in the world doesn't mean anything if a pledge vet mobs or bosses one shots through healing ward and due to not having Enough health.

Same goes for pvp players cc locking and bursting down (e.g. CF knockdown followed by sorc dps rotation). I'm dead before I can break free and insane regen doesn't help.

TheBull

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

whats your health? I find that having all the regen in the world doesn't mean anything if a pledge vet mobs or bosses one shots through healing ward and due to not having Enough health.

Same goes for pvp players cc locking and bursting down (e.g. CF knockdown followed by sorc dps rotation). I'm dead before I can break free and insane regen doesn't help.

I have around 27k in this build.

a.skelton92

It WAS a "unique" build until you posted it on the forums. Now every sheep in a 100 mile radius will flock to it.

SneaK

TheBull wrote: »

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

How do you handle Templars spamming toppling charge and puncturing sweeps? I can't heal fast enough and put out enough burst quick enough. The Templar spam in IC is getting ridiculous.

Well built magicka templars can be a pain. The thing is you rarely see them. I run disease on my destro staff. For most magicka temps I meet that plus soul harvest is enough. This build out heals their sweep. For the rare well built magicka temp there is a good chance of things ending in a draw.

Feel like the Magicka Temp would be the hard counter for this build. Dark Flare will pull you from cloak and reduce your healing. Cripple and Fear would be a good counter to them though..

Very cool build.

TheBull

SneaK wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »

How do you handle Templars spamming toppling charge and puncturing sweeps? I can't heal fast enough and put out enough burst quick enough. The Templar spam in IC is getting ridiculous.

Well built magicka templars can be a pain. The thing is you rarely see them. I run disease on my destro staff. For most magicka temps I meet that plus soul harvest is enough. This build out heals their sweep. For the rare well built magicka temp there is a good chance of things ending in a draw.

Feel like the Magicka Temp would be the hard counter for this build. Dark Flare will pull you from cloak and reduce your healing. Cripple and Fear would be a good counter to them though..

Very cool build.

I don't worry too much about heal debuffs with this build. Even when hit I'm still well above normal healing.