Orsinium - Where is the raid group play?

Nifty2g · October 2015

No, I am not against this new content it's a step in the right direction but in this update I would also like to see some new Trials and some new 4 Man VDSA Arenas.

Gern_Verkheart · October 2015

The raid groups already died when IC came out. Apparently ZOS doesn't want to do raids anymore, which makes me extremely sad and upset.

With all the new content being solo focused, there isn't even an incentive to be in a guild. Other than PvP and trading guilds. I thought the whole point of making a TES MMO was to play in the TES universe with friends? Now they are pretty much reducing this to a single player TES game that you can chat with other people on.

Docmandu · October 2015

OMG.. you people... sigh..

Next up.. cry post about the color yellow not being present as much as the color red in the next DLC...

AzraelKrieg · October 2015

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

Nifty2g · October 2015

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Docmandu · October 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Yes because ZOS should service your needs and only yours first.. ofcourse!

CP5 · October 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Craglorn already came out, so aside from 1-49, silver and gold, what is there for solo play?

Nifty2g · October 2015

CP5 wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Craglorn already came out, so aside from 1-49, silver and gold, what is there for solo play?

I have a question for you, do you really think the solo player who loves questing is going to be able to complete a solo arena? Of course not, again it's designed for the end game players (raiders) who want raiding content.

Artemiisia · October 2015

im looking forward to this update tremendously !!

gonna be so fun exploring a whole new world, listing to the story-line and picking flowers

AngryNord · October 2015

CP5 wrote: »

what is there for solo play?

Arena, Daggerfall, Battlespire, Redguard, Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim.

Lord Xanhorn · October 2015

CP5 wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Craglorn already came out, so aside from 1-49, silver and gold, what is there for solo play?

Sorry but this is a really sad post. Outside of 90% of the game, where's the solo play? Is this even a real question?

Tankqull · October 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

CP5 wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Craglorn already came out, so aside from 1-49, silver and gold, what is there for solo play?

I have a question for you, do you really think the solo player who loves questing is going to be able to complete a solo arena? Of course not, again it's designed for the end game players (raiders) who want raiding content.

before the end of november the arena will be watered down so far that even a monkey smashing his head on his now supported controler will be able to complete it.

Sausage · October 2015

This is for solo players. Step in line and wait your turn.

Nifty2g · October 2015

Sausage wrote: »

This is for solo players. Step in line and wait your turn.

Right because this game doesn't support solo players in the slightest there's no solo play at all

Raid group play: 2 trials you can beat in under 8 minutes and another one in 15 minutes.

Iluvrien · October 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Really? No new solo content since launch... and you think that it should be further delayed after Lower Craglorn, Upper Craglorn, Console release, IC and now Murkmire...

... I get that you want content, much as everyone else does,... but damn.

Sausage · October 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

This is for solo players. Step in line and wait your turn.

Right because this game doesn't support solo players in the slightest there's no solo play at all
Raid group play: 2 trials you can beat in under 8 minutes and another one in 15 minutes.

Soloers whined at the forum like raiders did. Thats what matters. Craglorn was for raiders/grouppers, IC for PVPers, Orsinium for soloers. Deal with it.

UrQuan · October 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

This is for solo players. Step in line and wait your turn.

Right because this game doesn't support solo players in the slightest there's no solo play at all
Raid group play: 2 trials you can beat in under 8 minutes and another one in 15 minutes.

There's currently no solo "endgame" content, while there has been group "endgame" content for a long time. Should there be more? Yeah, I don't think anyone would argue against that. But people have been asking for challenging solo content for almost 2 years now. It's time. More group "endgame" content will come.

Nifty2g · October 2015

Iluvrien wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Really? No new solo content since launch... and you think that it should be further delayed after Lower Craglorn, Upper Craglorn, Console release, IC and now Murkmire...

... I get that you want content, much as everyone else does,... but damn.

You're missing the point completely, don't even act like there isn't solo play, you're also confusing group play (4 man dungeons) with raid group play (12 mans). Also this isn't another discussion of who has to wait who should wait blah blah
Almost 99% of solo players won't even be able to complete a solo arena, until it becomes nerfed harder than anything else then sure.

Raid group play was completely and utterly destroyed with the release of Veteran Rank 16 when they refused to scale the content of Craglorn and I suspect will keep it that way to promote interest in their DLC.

I'm all for Orsinium, it's a great concept and I'll be doing the solo play but I just think there should be a new trial and 4 man / 8 man versions of this new arena. Seeing as it is their most popular PvE content in the game. Don't act like I'm against the update because what I've said is where is the raid group content.

asneakybanana · October 2015

I can't wait for the "solo arena too hard please nerf" qq threads when all the trash can soloers try and actually do the new content with all the endgame gear they don't have.

Elloa · October 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Not everyone will share this opinion with you. What about all the solo PVE casual players that most enjoy stories and that are probably 70 percent of the ESO player base and that were very angry when Imperial CIty was released cause it was "PVP" ??

Well, regardless, Zenimax have said several time that they would release their DLC when its released, not before it released, They get 3 teams working on DLC at once. Apparently its not the Trial DLC team that has developed their content the fasted.
What do you prefer, knowing that the trial is not ready now.

1. Have the DLC delayed and players recieve no DLC in november (so the next DLC would be the Trial DLC, not the solo DLC)
2. Have the Trial released but buggy and half finished?
3. Having Orsinium, then wait and get a proper Trial next time, when its ready?

Cuyler · October 2015

Each DLC should include a pve zone (solo), pvp zone, trial/dungeons (group) and cosmetic goodies to go along every quarter. ZOS is just slowwwww

Edit: most other games have been pulling this off for years, but ZOS has us bickering at each other over solo/group/pvp content every other month because they can't seem to keep up with the rest of the gaming industry.

Nifty2g · October 2015

asneakybanana wrote: »

I can't wait for the "solo arena too hard please nerf" qq threads when all the trash can soloers try and actually do the new content with all the endgame gear they don't have.

QFT, this is for solo players only, no raid players.

AngryNord · October 2015

I swear I'll seriously never understand why people sign up for a MULTIPLAYER game and then starts demanding it gets changed to a singleplayer game ASAP Zulu

Sausage · October 2015

This is actually one thing what Ive said to devs numerous times, when they try to please everyone, they end up pleasing no-one, sometimes should be better to specialize in one area and do it well. I personally think after these, journey experience should be their first priority, if only 11% of PS4 has completed Chapter 6, something aint right. Cyrodil overhaul too, it just looks so cheap if compared to the rest of the game.

DisgracefulMind · October 2015

It's an MMO. WHY do you all scream for solo play? You can solo 90% of this game already.

Nifty2g · October 2015

Elloa wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

AzraelKrieg wrote: »

You wait for Murkmire Nifty. Plus it's been discussed time and time again that Orsinium was going to be solo content. No raids or trials was expected with this.

They should have released murkmire first then, the group play should be before the solo play so it doesn't tear what is left of all the raid guilds apart. Just my opinion, I really do like this solo arena but I'm just upset about the raiding group play

Not everyone will share this opinion with you. What about all the solo PVE casual players that most enjoy stories and that are probably 70 percent of the ESO player base and that were very angry when Imperial CIty was released cause it was "PVP" ??

Well, regardless, Zenimax have said several time that they would release their DLC when its released, not before it released, They get 3 teams working on DLC at once. Apparently its not the Trial DLC team that has developed their content the fasted.
What do you prefer, knowing that the trial is not ready now.

1. Have the DLC delayed and players recieve no DLC in november (so the next DLC would be the Trial DLC, not the solo DLC)
2. Have the Trial released but buggy and half finished?
3. Having Orsinium, then wait and get a proper Trial next time, when its ready?

READ THE POST, I'm asking WHERE is the new trial ALONG with this new content. It's a PvE zone why are you missing the largest part of PvE - RAIDING AS A GROUP. If anything, PvE is the most hardest to keep up to date once content is beaten it becomes old very quickly. Sure this update is to please solo players but why not include 4 man versions of the arena and throw in a trial somewhere? Pleases both parties.

Stickleback · October 2015

I'm extremely happy about the solo arena, and I hope it won't be as Hardcore as Nifty thinks.

I spend a lot of my time doing stuff on my own, and although I do join in the occasional dungeon/raidgroup (yes, still pop in the "old" ones now and then) I usually log on too late in the evening, when most people have finished their daily gold / silver, or I don't have the required "achievement" to link to join a PUG group.

This for me is perfect, I just pop in the arena and try and get a bit further than I did previously, tweak my gear/bar-setup a bit, and hopefully learn more about my chars more than I've done in the past 2 years since Beta. Lets hope my chars don't need to become hybrid to do it.

Are the solo arena's also any level?

kuscoe · October 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

I understand it's pretty cool how fast this was released after imperial city zos are doing a great job right now with everything, but Orsinium is meant to be for the PvE player, so many pve guilds have been holding out for this and there has been no new 12 man trials, no 24 man trials, no new 4 man arena (your most popular content), no new 8 man arena. I feel like this is going to split up a lot of the PvE player base with the solo arena, I do think it is an amazing concept but I reckon the raiding should've came before the solo arena this update.

Is there really no new raid group play? What happens to all the raid groups now?

Hold on a bit longer nifty

https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/3n4h23/news_orsinium_to_contain_a_solo_pve_arena/

Cously · October 2015

It is an ONLINE game. GTFO solo crap. Be nice, be helpful. Don't be a sick, don't be selfish. You will find plenty of people to play with. MMO.

kuscoe · October 2015

Cously wrote: »

It is an ONLINE game. GTFO solo crap. Be nice, be helpful. Don't be a sick, don't be selfish. You will find plenty of people to play with. MMO.

This post is missing coherence

Nifty2g · October 2015

Stickleback wrote: »

I'm extremely happy about the solo arena, and I hope it won't be as Hardcore as Nifty thinks.

I spend a lot of my time doing stuff on my own, and although I do join in the occasional dungeon/raidgroup (yes, still pop in the "old" ones now and then) I usually log on too late in the evening, when most people have finished their daily gold / silver, or I don't have the required "achievement" to link to join a PUG group.

This for me is perfect, I just pop in the arena and try and get a bit further than I did previously, tweak my gear/bar-setup a bit, and hopefully learn more about my chars more than I've done in the past 2 years since Beta. Lets hope my chars don't need to become hybrid to do it.

Are the solo arena's also any level?

Normal and Veteran versions that's all we know - like always it will be incredibly hard on PTS so players can get their I did it before the nerf achievements

@kuscoe I really hope so