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The StamKnight - DK Build Guide by SRIBES

  • Joey053
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    In the video u didnt use the engine guardian.
    So is this method(invigorating drain, batswarm) viable when u are fighting back? Or do u run out of stamina to quick?
  • SRIBES
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    Joey053 wrote: »
    In the video u didnt use the engine guardian.
    So is this method(invigorating drain, batswarm) viable when u are fighting back? Or do u run out of stamina to quick?

    The video was really just demonstrating the skill invigorating drain and how fun it is and that it could totally be added to my build.
  • NoRefunds
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    were you using ult cost reduction gear?
  • Isbilen
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    NoRefunds wrote: »
    were you using ult cost reduction gear?

    He wasn't. His ultimate took on average 21~ seconds from pressing R to the next activation.
    The ultimate gains used are:
    - 3 ultimate every second from the standard ultimate buff
    - 2 ultimate per second from Invigorating Drain (mine is only rank 1, maybe this scales higher as it levels)
    - 0,666666 ultimate per second from Minor Heroism
    - 0,5 ultimate per second from Mountain's Blessing (3 ultimate ever 6 seconds)
    - 15 ultimate every 6 seconds from Blood Spawn (6% chance to proc, so might take longer)

    That leaves the ultimate gain at 6.1666 per second without Blood Spawn procs. Bat Swarm costs 158 ultimate in stage 4 to cast, so that means you can have it ready in 25 seconds. Now add Blood Spawn in to the mix with the possibility of gaining 15 ultimate every 6 seconds, and you've got a pretty decent uptime on your swarm.
  • SRIBES
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    NoRefunds wrote: »
    were you using ult cost reduction gear?

    No.
  • SRIBES
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39ZxN_ykl7Q

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MRsrVP55joc

    Some PvP vids of my guild (we run tight groups with amazing players). It's not from my PoV but you can generally see what i'm doing. Most of the group DPS comes from my banners and steel tornados. Enjoy (:

    Edit: This is really just to show off how helpful my build is in groups with rapids, AoE's, Etc.
    Edited by SRIBES on 5 October 2015 17:52
  • Addictive10
    Do you put all your attributes in stamina?
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    Do you put all your attributes in stamina?

    Yes.
  • Addictive10
    Do you put all your attributes in stamina?

    Yes.

    Can I know whats your max health with food and drinks?
  • Jjitsuboy98
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    I've been trying your build with a mix of lucy's for a while now. I havent been pvping that long but man I get destroyed a lot. I win some but its really hard. I only have 100 CPs I hate to think that is major part of it. I us a lot of animation canceled ransack bashes for dps. 1hShield and Two hand. My gear is vr 15 Black Rose 5 Piece Heavy, 2 piece Heavy Night Silence, 3 Piece Weapon shield and amulet Agility and two cost reduction rings. I dont have vigor yet either I guess thats is a big deal I hear. I'm about a quarter of the way there to that Alliance Level.

    I thought about re rolling a stamina nightblade or Magicka Sorcerer they seem to be pretty user friendly for someone with not a lot of PVP experience (only a few months). Maybe you could give me some pointers sometime I see u guys roaming around sometime in the Imperial City. Dragonknight is def my favorite class but I suck with it right now.
  • SRIBES
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    Do you put all your attributes in stamina?

    Yes.

    Can I know whats your max health with food and drinks?

    Food = 25k
    Drink = 20k almost 21k

    I plan to use legendary food next update, which will give me max health and tri regen.
    http://i.imgur.com/y5wMxTF.jpg
  • SRIBES
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    I've been trying your build with a mix of lucy's for a while now. I havent been pvping that long but man I get destroyed a lot. I win some but its really hard. I only have 100 CPs I hate to think that is major part of it. I us a lot of animation canceled ransack bashes for dps. 1hShield and Two hand. My gear is vr 15 Black Rose 5 Piece Heavy, 2 piece Heavy Night Silence, 3 Piece Weapon shield and amulet Agility and two cost reduction rings. I dont have vigor yet either I guess thats is a big deal I hear. I'm about a quarter of the way there to that Alliance Level.

    I thought about re rolling a stamina nightblade or Magicka Sorcerer they seem to be pretty user friendly for someone with not a lot of PVP experience (only a few months). Maybe you could give me some pointers sometime I see u guys roaming around sometime in the Imperial City. Dragonknight is def my favorite class but I suck with it right now.

    1) CP is a part of it. It has discouraged several players from playing but hopefully with the cp next update it will be better for you.
    2) Your gear could be way better. I really think you should try the sets i'm using, I put out great damage and i'm still tanky. Ravager x5, Hundings x5, Engine x2. 5 heavy, 1 med, 1 light.
    3)Vigor is a game changer. Don't make a decision till you have it! :p
    DK is a awesome class and will get some buffs early 2016 (according to zos), don't give up yet. I do recommend you play with groups to get vigor and get used to your class and have fun. I also recommend you do some duels to get used to your class when you're done leveling.
  • FearDredd
    FearDredd
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    Hey man what is your thought on using medium armor maybe a setup with Armor master? Also, I like the use of ravager but my resource management has been kind of slacking. What can I do to help that, what about maybe crafting 5 Willows path?
  • Rohaus
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    I think the Black Rose 5 piece bonus is broken... I get the Weapon Damage from the 5th piece but the Constitution buff does not appear to be working... at least it does not show up properly within my regen...
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  • SRIBES
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    FearDredd wrote: »
    Hey man what is your thought on using medium armor maybe a setup with Armor master? Also, I like the use of ravager but my resource management has been kind of slacking. What can I do to help that, what about maybe crafting 5 Willows path?

    Tri pots and tri regen drinks will help a lot with sustain. Serpent mundus and engine guardian are both important as well. I'm going to update the guide soon for 1.8 in probably a week or two where I will go more in depth to what I will be running and have a solid lay out along with some screenshots. I used medium armor master and medium willows both on the 1.7 PTS and I liked it but I was losing to much damage and wasn't seeing a massive bump up in survivability or sustain and had a DPS loss at the same time.
  • Maschin
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    Hi there!

    Does the ravager set proc happen through the dk dots?
  • SRIBES
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    Maschin wrote: »
    Hi there!

    Does the ravager set proc happen through the dk dots?

    No it doesn't.
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    Rohaus wrote: »
    I think the Black Rose 5 piece bonus is broken... I get the Weapon Damage from the 5th piece but the Constitution buff does not appear to be working... at least it does not show up properly within my regen...

    It's not supposed to show up with your regen. Constitution passive has nothing to do with recovery. I stopped using black rose there are better options out there for sure.
  • Rohaus
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    Black Rose was a solid starter set for me. I ended up going with a 5 piece set of Hundings instead. Been enjoying that! However, I always get bored with setups and part of the fun for me is trying out new sets but boy does it get expensive especially if you make things gold etc.

    What I have done instead is try sets out at Vr14 as purple/epic. The next set I am working on to try out is 5 piece Master Armor. I plan on doing that as 5 piece medium. Increased Stam regen, Stam cost reduction.... Damage will be roughly the same but I will be able to be even more mobile and my defense should be the same... Block reduction will be the one thing I will be missing out on...
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  • SRIBES
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    Just did an edit and updated it to the CP placement for 1.8 and cut some of the things out I thought weren't really important. I put a couple of the new things i'll be doing in 1.8 in the thread and will go into more detail when 1.8 is closer to dropping but the gear and skills haven't changed except I want to run the maelstrom 2h next update.
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    Rohaus wrote: »
    @ChannelTribes

    Black Rose was a solid starter set for me. I ended up going with a 5 piece set of Hundings instead. Been enjoying that! However, I always get bored with setups and part of the fun for me is trying out new sets but boy does it get expensive especially if you make things gold etc.

    What I have done instead is try sets out at Vr14 as purple/epic. The next set I am working on to try out is 5 piece Master Armor. I plan on doing that as 5 piece medium. Increased Stam regen, Stam cost reduction.... Damage will be roughly the same but I will be able to be even more mobile and my defense should be the same... Block reduction will be the one thing I will be missing out on...

    All my gear is still in v14 for the most part so yeah it does get expensive, I tried that before 1.7 launched in the PTS for awhile because i've always been medium armor for the most part. It works for sure (: good luck!
  • dschreuder
    Can this build being used for PVE and if not what would you change?
  • ShawtyBlaze
    Why do you choose to wear heavy armor instead of medium armor as a stamina build?
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    dschreuder wrote: »
    Can this build being used for PVE and if not what would you change?

    It can't sadly. I haven't PvE'd in months but i'm sure someone like deltia has a good tank/dps dk build for pve.
  • Rakno87
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    Great Job SRIBES!
    DC Since Launch
    Sardul Singh - Unwavering Stam DK
  • SRIBES
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    Why do you choose to wear heavy armor instead of medium armor as a stamina build?

    I choose heavy instead of medium mainly for the block cost reduction. My friends are trying to convince me to go medium so i'm going to retry it in 1.8 when mats are easier to obtain. The original build I was creating was intended to be a perma block build and receive tons of stats while blocking. After they nerfed the old black rose that had a 20% chance to give the user 800 stamina I started going a more DPS approach but still wanted to be able to block a lot. So heavy armor allows me to do that but I still have plans to retry medium armor in the future. Medium is better in duels for sure.
  • Alanar
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    For your armor glyphs, are you using stamina instead of prismatic on the minor pieces because you want the extra stamina, or because the prismatic glyphs are so expensive? Would you switch everything to prismatic if you had the glyphs?
  • Hiero_Glyph
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    Alanar wrote: »
    For your armor glyphs, are you using stamina instead of prismatic on the minor pieces because you want the extra stamina, or because the prismatic glyphs are so expensive? Would you switch everything to prismatic if you had the glyphs?

    For prismatic glyphs you can always just use it on the big pieces (head, chest, legs) and use these as infused to get the most benefit. I don't think there is a point in doing everything prismatic since hybrid builds still struggle in the current meta. So for every 1k health/magicka you get, you still lose 1k stamina. At some point that lost stamina hurts more than the additional health/magicka helps.
  • jbcrocks
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    @ChannelTribes do you have a link where zos mentioned they'll buff dk's? :)
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  • ShawtyBlaze
    @ChannelTribes do you have a good stamina nightblade, I'd so can you message me about it I need help.
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