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The StamKnight - DK Build Guide by SRIBES

  • SRIBES
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    Vernius wrote: »
    Is there a final verdict for choosing between 5pc Armor Master and 5pc Black Rose?

    Up to you, I typically prefer black rose. I don't want to slam X set on the table and say you have to use this because there are so many options :p

    Black rose is better open world imo armor master better in duels
    Edited by SRIBES on 15 September 2015 13:50
  • leepalmer95
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    Vernius wrote: »
    Is there a final verdict for choosing between 5pc Armor Master and 5pc Black Rose?

    Up to you, I typically prefer black rose. I don't want to slam X set on the table and say you have to use this because there are so many options :p

    Black rose is better open world imo armor master better in duels

    Will this work without prismatic glyths with v15 armour?

    I'm wondering if i should run around with my sorc first to get stones before i decide to try my dk, he's magicka at the moment but going back to stamina.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • Ishammael
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    Vernius wrote: »
    Is there a final verdict for choosing between 5pc Armor Master and 5pc Black Rose?

    Up to you, I typically prefer black rose. I don't want to slam X set on the table and say you have to use this because there are so many options :p

    Black rose is better open world imo armor master better in duels

    Will this work without prismatic glyths with v15 armour?

    I'm wondering if i should run around with my sorc first to get stones before i decide to try my dk, he's magicka at the moment but going back to stamina.

    yes, try it at v15. It is an order of magnitude cheaper than the v16 version.
  • leepalmer95
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Vernius wrote: »
    Is there a final verdict for choosing between 5pc Armor Master and 5pc Black Rose?

    Up to you, I typically prefer black rose. I don't want to slam X set on the table and say you have to use this because there are so many options :p

    Black rose is better open world imo armor master better in duels

    Will this work without prismatic glyths with v15 armour?

    I'm wondering if i should run around with my sorc first to get stones before i decide to try my dk, he's magicka at the moment but going back to stamina.

    yes, try it at v15. It is an order of magnitude cheaper than the v16 version.

    You can get prismatic glyphs at v15?
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • SRIBES
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    Just updated the OP thread, looks way better now!
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Vernius wrote: »
    Is there a final verdict for choosing between 5pc Armor Master and 5pc Black Rose?

    Up to you, I typically prefer black rose. I don't want to slam X set on the table and say you have to use this because there are so many options :p

    Black rose is better open world imo armor master better in duels

    Will this work without prismatic glyths with v15 armour?

    I'm wondering if i should run around with my sorc first to get stones before i decide to try my dk, he's magicka at the moment but going back to stamina.

    yes, try it at v15. It is an order of magnitude cheaper than the v16 version.

    You can get prismatic glyphs at v15?

    I don't believe they come in V15.
    Edited by SRIBES on 15 September 2015 23:24
  • Isbilen
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    Just updated the OP thread, looks way better now!
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Vernius wrote: »
    Is there a final verdict for choosing between 5pc Armor Master and 5pc Black Rose?

    Up to you, I typically prefer black rose. I don't want to slam X set on the table and say you have to use this because there are so many options :p

    Black rose is better open world imo armor master better in duels

    Will this work without prismatic glyths with v15 armour?

    I'm wondering if i should run around with my sorc first to get stones before i decide to try my dk, he's magicka at the moment but going back to stamina.

    yes, try it at v15. It is an order of magnitude cheaper than the v16 version.

    You can get prismatic glyphs at v15?

    I don't believe they come in V15.

    They do. Rejera - Hakeijo - Kuta. I wouldn't reccomend wasting the gold on them at that level though now while Hakeijo is 70-80K gold each.
  • NoRefunds
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    Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

    If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

    Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

    It was good, the last fight the guy I was fighting got upset that I was using reverberating bash and talked to the officers of the guild to get the skill banned even though he had emp buffs and v16 gear as well as other advantages over me. It was a good duel though and I had fun (:

    Oh wow! Is there any videos of the tournament?

    here is the video of the final, without rev bash sribes had no chance to win but hes still been super hard to kill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJcmcpZlaMs
  • Addictive10
    NoRefunds wrote: »
    Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

    If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

    Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

    It was good, the last fight the guy I was fighting got upset that I was using reverberating bash and talked to the officers of the guild to get the skill banned even though he had emp buffs and v16 gear as well as other advantages over me. It was a good duel though and I had fun (:

    Oh wow! Is there any videos of the tournament?

    here is the video of the final, without rev bash sribes had no chance to win but hes still been super hard to kill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJcmcpZlaMs

    oh cool thanks =). Are you emp in the vid?
  • Ishammael
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Vernius wrote: »
    Is there a final verdict for choosing between 5pc Armor Master and 5pc Black Rose?

    Up to you, I typically prefer black rose. I don't want to slam X set on the table and say you have to use this because there are so many options :p

    Black rose is better open world imo armor master better in duels

    Will this work without prismatic glyths with v15 armour?

    I'm wondering if i should run around with my sorc first to get stones before i decide to try my dk, he's magicka at the moment but going back to stamina.

    yes, try it at v15. It is an order of magnitude cheaper than the v16 version.

    You can get prismatic glyphs at v15?

    yes, but I wouldn't waste money on it.
  • SRIBES
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    NoRefunds wrote: »
    Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

    If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

    Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

    It was good, the last fight the guy I was fighting got upset that I was using reverberating bash and talked to the officers of the guild to get the skill banned even though he had emp buffs and v16 gear as well as other advantages over me. It was a good duel though and I had fun (:

    Oh wow! Is there any videos of the tournament?

    here is the video of the final, without rev bash sribes had no chance to win but hes still been super hard to kill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJcmcpZlaMs

    Why would you say I had no chance to win, lol? I've been able to beat Sabre without reverb before on the PTS. I think that's kind of a silly thing to say that I had no chance. It was super hard because I couldn't use reverb I had no debuffs against him, while it seemed like he had so many against me. Perhaps when my build is done i'll be able to do more damage so I can put more pressure on sabre. Ransack tooltip is 5.1k atm should be breaking 7k or so when i'm done. It was a gf though, thanks for linking the vid.
    Edited by SRIBES on 16 September 2015 14:50
  • aco5712
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    why is rev bash being banned in 1v1s?
    Banned for Naming and Shaming exploiters. Great ideology ZOS.
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  • Ishammael
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    aco5712 wrote: »
    why is rev bash being banned in 1v1s?

    yeah i was wondering this, too.
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    why is rev bash being banned in 1v1s?

    yeah i was wondering this, too.

    same ^^
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • MrGrimey
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    A better statement would be, "Sabre had no chance to win until he get reverb banned"
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    aco5712 wrote: »
    why is rev bash being banned in 1v1s?

    Sypher claimed it was bugged on PTS after I dueled him a bunch with it and he said you can't CC break while you're sliding from reverb bash and I told them you can't CC break dragon leap while your in the air, it's how a lot of CC's work. No one would listen, so since I was using it sabre talked to saf (the officer hosting it, she didn't have anything to do with the ban of it) and she asked sypher if it should be allowed and sypher said no. So basically the rules changed on the last fight, because it's apparently bugged. I asked ZoS on the ask us anything thread if it was bugged, so if it is we will find out on ESO live if they answer it.
    Ishammael wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    why is rev bash being banned in 1v1s?

    yeah i was wondering this, too.

    same ^^
    Ishammael wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    why is rev bash being banned in 1v1s?

    yeah i was wondering this, too.

    Edited by SRIBES on 16 September 2015 15:29
  • SRIBES
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    MrGrimey wrote: »
    A better statement would be, "Sabre had no chance to win until he get reverb banned"

    Nah sabre ali is a really good player who's been playing ESO since launch like myself. If I was using it, it would end up being more fair and I would enjoy that duel a lot more. I think he could totally beat me if I was using reverb bash, but I could beat him just as easily. At that level of skill and build wise in duels, it's just a matter of who *** up first. I don't have anything to really put pressure on him without because my damage is so low from his shade reduction so I needed some kind of debuff, but I didn't get one. Oh well :p it's just a duel.
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    How would you set up your CP up based on 300 points?
  • NoRefunds
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    NoRefunds wrote: »
    Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

    If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

    Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

    It was good, the last fight the guy I was fighting got upset that I was using reverberating bash and talked to the officers of the guild to get the skill banned even though he had emp buffs and v16 gear as well as other advantages over me. It was a good duel though and I had fun (:

    Oh wow! Is there any videos of the tournament?

    here is the video of the final, without rev bash sribes had no chance to win but hes still been super hard to kill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJcmcpZlaMs

    Why would you say I had no chance to win, lol? I've been able to beat Sabre without reverb before on the PTS. I think that's kind of a silly thing to say that I had no chance. It was super hard because I couldn't use reverb I had no debuffs against him, while it seemed like he had so many against me. Perhaps when my build is done i'll be able to do more damage so I can put more pressure on sabre. Ransack tooltip is 5.1k atm should be breaking 7k or so when i'm done. It was a gf though, thanks for linking the vid.

    On the pts the black rose set is bugged, thats why you were impossible to kill and dealing insane dmg there, on live with the shades debuff and without an healing debuff you had no chance to outdamage his healing, personally i dont agree with the ban to rev bash because its a skill in the game and there are other skills with similar cc effects, like petrify and the templar aoe stun, the stun animation is kinda broken for sure tho, most of the times when i use it i see the enemy teleporting from a place to another lol
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    NoRefunds wrote: »
    NoRefunds wrote: »
    Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

    If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

    Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

    It was good, the last fight the guy I was fighting got upset that I was using reverberating bash and talked to the officers of the guild to get the skill banned even though he had emp buffs and v16 gear as well as other advantages over me. It was a good duel though and I had fun (:

    Oh wow! Is there any videos of the tournament?

    here is the video of the final, without rev bash sribes had no chance to win but hes still been super hard to kill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJcmcpZlaMs

    Why would you say I had no chance to win, lol? I've been able to beat Sabre without reverb before on the PTS. I think that's kind of a silly thing to say that I had no chance. It was super hard because I couldn't use reverb I had no debuffs against him, while it seemed like he had so many against me. Perhaps when my build is done i'll be able to do more damage so I can put more pressure on sabre. Ransack tooltip is 5.1k atm should be breaking 7k or so when i'm done. It was a gf though, thanks for linking the vid.

    On the pts the black rose set is bugged, thats why you were impossible to kill and dealing insane dmg there, on live with the shades debuff and without an healing debuff you had no chance to outdamage his healing, personally i dont agree with the ban to rev bash because its a skill in the game and there are other skills with similar cc effects, like petrify and the templar aoe stun, the stun animation is kinda broken for sure tho, most of the times when i use it i see the enemy teleporting from a place to another lol

    I didn't use black rose in duels on PTS, I used armor master ask sypher lol.

    Edit: open world I did use black rose but due to it being bugged 1v1 I took it off when I found out it wasn't a UI bugged for all of the fights with sypher (besides two of them) I was using armor master and against pretty much everyone else I also used armor master.
    Edited by SRIBES on 16 September 2015 17:01
  • SRIBES
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    WebBull wrote: »
    How would you set up your CP up based on 300 points?

    I swap my CP around a lot, depends on what I feel like i'm lacking or needing but rn i'm putting 75 into block cost reduc 10 into crit resist and then 10 into element resist and 5 into magic resist for red tree. Blue tree I go 10 into blade expert 70 into mighty and dump the rest into armor pen and crit dmg. Green tree is 50/50 regen cost reduc atm. It's not the best CP assortment atm but it works fine for me and i'm sure I could improve on what I have right now.
  • Ishammael
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    NoRefunds wrote: »
    NoRefunds wrote: »
    Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

    If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

    Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

    It was good, the last fight the guy I was fighting got upset that I was using reverberating bash and talked to the officers of the guild to get the skill banned even though he had emp buffs and v16 gear as well as other advantages over me. It was a good duel though and I had fun (:

    Oh wow! Is there any videos of the tournament?

    here is the video of the final, without rev bash sribes had no chance to win but hes still been super hard to kill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJcmcpZlaMs

    Why would you say I had no chance to win, lol? I've been able to beat Sabre without reverb before on the PTS. I think that's kind of a silly thing to say that I had no chance. It was super hard because I couldn't use reverb I had no debuffs against him, while it seemed like he had so many against me. Perhaps when my build is done i'll be able to do more damage so I can put more pressure on sabre. Ransack tooltip is 5.1k atm should be breaking 7k or so when i'm done. It was a gf though, thanks for linking the vid.

    On the pts the black rose set is bugged, thats why you were impossible to kill and dealing insane dmg there, on live with the shades debuff and without an healing debuff you had no chance to outdamage his healing, personally i dont agree with the ban to rev bash because its a skill in the game and there are other skills with similar cc effects, like petrify and the templar aoe stun, the stun animation is kinda broken for sure tho, most of the times when i use it i see the enemy teleporting from a place to another lol

    I didn't use black rose in duels on PTS, I used armor master ask sypher lol.

    Edit: open world I did use black rose but due to it being bugged 1v1 I took it off when I found out it wasn't a UI bugged for all of the fights with sypher (besides two of them) I was using armor master and against pretty much everyone else I also used armor master.

    Is the passive damage reduction gained from Armor Master that good?

    Full armor master set = 1.9k phys and spell. Activate immoveable gives you 5.3k + 5.2k. Total of ~12.4k armor. Which is about 10% dmg reduction.
  • Bashev
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    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.
    Because I can!
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    Bashev wrote: »
    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.

    Templar = repentence + jabs => just as good if not better.
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    NoRefunds wrote: »
    NoRefunds wrote: »
    Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

    If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

    Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

    It was good, the last fight the guy I was fighting got upset that I was using reverberating bash and talked to the officers of the guild to get the skill banned even though he had emp buffs and v16 gear as well as other advantages over me. It was a good duel though and I had fun (:

    Oh wow! Is there any videos of the tournament?

    here is the video of the final, without rev bash sribes had no chance to win but hes still been super hard to kill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJcmcpZlaMs

    Why would you say I had no chance to win, lol? I've been able to beat Sabre without reverb before on the PTS. I think that's kind of a silly thing to say that I had no chance. It was super hard because I couldn't use reverb I had no debuffs against him, while it seemed like he had so many against me. Perhaps when my build is done i'll be able to do more damage so I can put more pressure on sabre. Ransack tooltip is 5.1k atm should be breaking 7k or so when i'm done. It was a gf though, thanks for linking the vid.

    On the pts the black rose set is bugged, thats why you were impossible to kill and dealing insane dmg there, on live with the shades debuff and without an healing debuff you had no chance to outdamage his healing, personally i dont agree with the ban to rev bash because its a skill in the game and there are other skills with similar cc effects, like petrify and the templar aoe stun, the stun animation is kinda broken for sure tho, most of the times when i use it i see the enemy teleporting from a place to another lol

    I didn't use black rose in duels on PTS, I used armor master ask sypher lol.

    Edit: open world I did use black rose but due to it being bugged 1v1 I took it off when I found out it wasn't a UI bugged for all of the fights with sypher (besides two of them) I was using armor master and against pretty much everyone else I also used armor master.

    Is the passive damage reduction gained from Armor Master that good?

    Full armor master set = 1.9k phys and spell. Activate immoveable gives you 5.3k + 5.2k. Total of ~12.4k armor. Which is about 10% dmg reduction.

    With the health pool I had in combination with the cyrodiil damage reduction it fealt like a lot. I wasn't even running immovable for the fights with Sypher but I was later down the road. I was in medium armor with like 1.5k stam recovery and was taking such little damage at the same time. I wouldn't run it now, it just happened to be the best option in duels or I would get called out for exploiting. It's still a great set though.
  • NoRefunds
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    Bashev wrote: »
    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.

    DK is the best because with igneous shield you have the best stamina managment and self healing possible, an amazing dot with unstable flame and leap to finish off people and sustain with battle roar, other classes dont have this kind of tools
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.

    Templar = repentence + jabs => just as good if not better.
    Bashev wrote: »
    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.

    If ZOS nerfs battle roar and earthen heart stamina return they will most likely make it a flat # so I doubt it will get nerfed bad enough to where it is useless. It currently works on all classes also lol, but imo dragon leap is the best burst ult in the game so you also won't have that as a temp.

    Edit: I really don't think it will be nerfed any time soon, if it is there are plenty of other options to not rely off of those passives.
    Edited by SRIBES on 16 September 2015 17:20
  • Addictive10
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.

    Templar = repentence + jabs => just as good if not better.
    Bashev wrote: »
    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.

    If ZOS nerfs battle roar and earthen heart stamina return they will most likely make it a flat # so I doubt it will get nerfed bad enough to where it is useless. It currently works on all classes also lol, but imo dragon leap is the best burst ult in the game so you also won't have that as a temp.

    Edit: I really don't think it will be nerfed any time soon, if it is there are plenty of other options to not rely off of those passives.

    I hope they dont nerf it though lol that would be lame. I would regret not making a redguard instead of an imperial just for the added insurance of stamina sustain.
  • Ishammael
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.

    Templar = repentence + jabs => just as good if not better.
    Bashev wrote: »
    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.

    If ZOS nerfs battle roar and earthen heart stamina return they will most likely make it a flat # so I doubt it will get nerfed bad enough to where it is useless. It currently works on all classes also lol, but imo dragon leap is the best burst ult in the game so you also won't have that as a temp.

    Edit: I really don't think it will be nerfed any time soon, if it is there are plenty of other options to not rely off of those passives.

    I hope they dont nerf it though lol that would be lame. I would regret not making a redguard instead of an imperial just for the added insurance of stamina sustain.

    You shouldn't regret Imperial. +12% hp and +10% stam is still king, especially with champion points.
  • SRIBES
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Bashev wrote: »
    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.

    Templar = repentence + jabs => just as good if not better.
    Bashev wrote: »
    3 DK skills out of 12. This build can be used by all classes. When ZoS nerfed the 2 passives that restore stamina this build will be more useful for the other classes.

    If ZOS nerfs battle roar and earthen heart stamina return they will most likely make it a flat # so I doubt it will get nerfed bad enough to where it is useless. It currently works on all classes also lol, but imo dragon leap is the best burst ult in the game so you also won't have that as a temp.

    Edit: I really don't think it will be nerfed any time soon, if it is there are plenty of other options to not rely off of those passives.

    I hope they dont nerf it though lol that would be lame. I would regret not making a redguard instead of an imperial just for the added insurance of stamina sustain.

    You shouldn't regret Imperial. +12% hp and +10% stam is still king, especially with champion points.

    If they did and this build proved to not be reliable then you could play pretty much any other build as an imperial because it's very well rounded. So basically what ishammael
    Edited by SRIBES on 17 September 2015 14:10
  • Hydroizkazani
    This build good for duels or for IC too? And nord dk'a normal? And I have footman accessories, haven't agility and master sword.y
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