The StamKnight - DK Build Guide by SRIBES

ThatNeonZebraAgain

ChannelTribes wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

ChannelTribes wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

So this build is 1h&s and 2h with engine guardian and agility set, but everything else is pretty much up to us. Holy crap, I've been using Sribes - StamKnight Tank/DPS build on my Sorc and didn't even know it.

1) Stamknight =Stam DK. Not stam sorc.
2) The build is more or less a concept and is very flexible which is why I say the other sets are up to you.

I know, I was making a joke. HAHA right?

ChannelTribes wrote: »

I can hit up to 40k stam, 30k+ health and over 2.5k weapon damage with roughly 800 stam regen which isn't really needed imo.

Am I misreading this or are you really okay with only 800 stam regen? Not sure if the which isn't really needed imo is referring to the stam regen or how high you can get your stam/hp.

I'm referring to the stam regen. In all my duels on PTS (including the ones with sypher) I never broke 1k stam regen. The amount of sustain battle roar and engine guardian provides me is disgusting. If I get a magic proc from engine I spam igneous and go back to full stam. The higher stam pool I have the more stamina my earthen heart abilities restore. Regen seems completely useless and my fights don't normally last long enough for me to even need regen due to the burst this build can put out. Open world same applies, I LOS all the time in IC which gives me time to get my stats back up quick and get back in the fight- but that's only if I am low on stats. I tend to only do small 1vX so like 1v3-1v7 which doesn't really drain me that much either.

Be careful there or ZOS might give Battle Roar the same treatment they gave NB Siphoning Attacks (give it an internal cooldown and change it to restore a flat value instead of a % of your resource pool)!

SRIBES

Rohaus wrote: »

ChannelTribes wrote: »

Rohaus wrote: »

I was thinking of building a set using the new crafted set Armor Master. With the nerfs to dodge roll and block... I was thinking that building to be as high in armor and spell resist as possible would be the best way to go.

I am still a huge fan of engine guardian especially with the nerfs to roll and block. Regen just seems to be so much more important now especially with fights lasting longer.

Then pick up Agility set and call it good.

As for weapons, I was actually thinking S+B / Dual Wield… swap dual wield out for 1 hander depending on what you are looking to do whether it be group play or solo / 1vX.

Reading about the nerf to Black Rose set… doesn’t seem like it is as good now. Armor Master seems like a pretty solid set especially when mixed with Shuffle. Dodge, increased mitigation… forget dodge roll and blocking. I won’t be able to test this out for a bit but in my head it sounds solid… not sure how it will actually work out in the field though.

Yeah, armor master works really well. SypherPK on twitch has a couple of past broadcasts where he couldn't beat me with any of his other builds/classes on PTS but then I told him to run armor master on his stam dk and fight me with it and we stalemated. It's hard to manage stats with armor master and balance damage while still being tanky as I did use the set for awhile. With practice and the right set up I think armor master could out perform black rose in some situations. Black Rose is still a really decent set because it gives such a good balance of weapon damage and stam. I can hit up to 40k stam, 30k+ health and over 2.5k weapon damage with roughly 800 stam regen which isn't really needed imo.

That is funny because I often watch SypherPK twitch streaming and I remember watching one of his streams last week where he was getting quite frustrated with a DK. He was stating stuff like, "I don't understand... this guy isn't even blocking yet he is mitigating so much of my damage" Were you using WB against him?

http://www.twitch.tv/sypherpk/v/12953953
It starts at 58:30 and then he dedicates the rest of the stream to dueling me. He had a couple other streams where he spent a couple hours dueling me but not going to go grab all the links (: No disrespect to sypher though. I've known him for over a year and we worked on 1.2-1.5 magicka DK build together which can be watched on his YT.

SRIBES

Not sure if that link works or not..
Also a lot of people have been asking what gear I run on my NB in game and right now I do x5 Black Rose and X5 Shadow Walker

Banang

Hey scribes, first and foremost thanks for the post! Lots of good info in here. I can tell you've put a lot of TLC into this build!

I rolled an Orc DK for the console release (pretty much pvp-only). I'm currently running 7/7 medium using a 2h/bow: 5 Whitestrakes, 3 Ashen Grip, and 3 Shadow Walker (jewelry).

With the IC update on the horizon, I'm looking to switch over to a tankier build (5h/2m) with the intention of moving towards your setup. Right now I'm thinking I have 2 options until I can get v16 and the Black Rose/Agility sets:

- Continue with my current setup, but switch out the bow for 1h/s
- Change my 5pc medium Whitestrakes to 5pc heavy Whitestrakes (all stamina enchants), and switch out the bow for 1h/s

Do you think the second option is a wise choice, or would you recommend a different (crafted) setup for the heavy gear? I know the stats/bonuses are being nerfed a bit on crafted gear, but I have been a fan of the Whitestrakes set (more Health, Health Recovery, and Spell Resistance, plus the 5-piece bonus shield). I realize that my max stamina might be a bit lacking (I'd take the +stam mundus), and from what I'm reading I should keep an eye out for the Shield Breaker set.

SRIBES

Banang wrote: »

Hey scribes, first and foremost thanks for the post! Lots of good info in here. I can tell you've put a lot of TLC into this build!

I rolled an Orc DK for the console release (pretty much pvp-only). I'm currently running 7/7 medium using a 2h/bow: 5 Whitestrakes, 3 Ashen Grip, and 3 Shadow Walker (jewelry).

With the IC update on the horizon, I'm looking to switch over to a tankier build (5h/2m) with the intention of moving towards your setup. Right now I'm thinking I have 2 options until I can get v16 and the Black Rose/Agility sets:

- Continue with my current setup, but switch out the bow for 1h/s
- Change my 5pc medium Whitestrakes to 5pc heavy Whitestrakes (all stamina enchants), and switch out the bow for 1h/s

Do you think the second option is a wise choice, or would you recommend a different (crafted) setup for the heavy gear? I know the stats/bonuses are being nerfed a bit on crafted gear, but I have been a fan of the Whitestrakes set (more Health, Health Recovery, and Spell Resistance, plus the 5-piece bonus shield). I realize that my max stamina might be a bit lacking (I'd take the +stam mundus), and from what I'm reading I should keep an eye out for the Shield Breaker set.

If you can get your hands on the armor master crafted set and replace whiterstakes with that and still go medium you will destroy people!
P.S. My name isn't scribes xD

Banang

WOW derped hard there, apologies! Thanks for the reply, I'll definitely look into moving to the Armor Master set (that 5-piece bonus looks mean).

SRIBES

Going to be dedicating a lot of time to testing vampire if I like it enough i'll be updating the thread with my vamp build (: just a heads up.

Cinbri

Anyone can give me sypher stream record link where he dueles vs this build?

Joey053

Go to twitch and look at Sypher,s previous live streams.

U have to click the 26 august one.

Kas

really hate to play against those DK's, it's an incredibly strong 1v1 build.
If you want to kill them as magicka templar, though:

reg food (to break fossilze often enough, nicely accopanied with prismatic glyphs for yourself)
nothing beats sweeps when purely spamming abilities face to face but bash cancelling *** you up badly
so add in potions with unstoppable and major expedition for movement and try to play with the slightly superior range on sweeps
dark flare to debuff healing, they don't have purge. still a major pain the the a* to hit hit, you don't want to get bashed while doing it and CC immunity helps a lot vs charge
total dark to double reflect meteor and dark flare
rapid regen + purifying ritual can compensate for a lot of damage done by the dk. the only thing he lacks is super high burst

eventually the DK might get out of magicka and his health will drop. if you ever run out of stamina, he can just fossilize you and reg up. if the DK's has no kidn of magicka regegneration (drink), the fight is nto much of problem, however, most have.

most of the time, i meet them with my usual skills though and without a healing debuff i just cannot take them down. and even with swapped skills i find them very hard with they have good movement and land the important bashes.

however, those are real duel and 1vX builds. I still prefer having magicka DK's in my group.

that being said, peopel have been runnign around with this build for months. it just became significantly stronger in 2.1 now, i'd say

leepalmer95

I'm exited to play this build in the next 2 days.

How quickly could i get the equipment though? Does it have to be v16? or is v15 ok?

SRIBES

Kas wrote: »

really hate to play against those DK's, it's an incredibly strong 1v1 build.
If you want to kill them as magicka templar, though:

reg food (to break fossilze often enough, nicely accopanied with prismatic glyphs for yourself)
nothing beats sweeps when purely spamming abilities face to face but bash cancelling *** you up badly
so add in potions with unstoppable and major expedition for movement and try to play with the slightly superior range on sweeps
dark flare to debuff healing, they don't have purge. still a major pain the the a* to hit hit, you don't want to get bashed while doing it and CC immunity helps a lot vs charge
total dark to double reflect meteor and dark flare
rapid regen + purifying ritual can compensate for a lot of damage done by the dk. the only thing he lacks is super high burst

eventually the DK might get out of magicka and his health will drop. if you ever run out of stamina, he can just fossilize you and reg up. if the DK's has no kidn of magicka regegneration (drink), the fight is nto much of problem, however, most have.

most of the time, i meet them with my usual skills though and without a healing debuff i just cannot take them down. and even with swapped skills i find them very hard with they have good movement and land the important bashes.

however, those are real duel and 1vX builds. I still prefer having magicka DK's in my group.

that being said, peopel have been runnign around with this build for months. it just became significantly stronger in 2.1 now, i'd say

I haven't lost to a templar in a duel yet on live.. However I did fight blabafat on the PTS and he was doing a similar playstyle and did beat me, I want to duel him again on live though. I agree that the sword and shield/duel wield is a great solo build, but if I go vamp and throw on duel wield instead of 2h I can do some crazy ***. I was 2vXing with my friend kodi who is a magicka dk while I was doing my duel wield vamp build and we wiped about 15-20 guys pretty easily, pretty sure he recorded it. A duel wield stam DK can be deadly in groups if any enemies get low. The zerg we wiped was PMing with awe at what we had just done. ^.^ don't underestimate the power of stam dk in group (; works so good if there is also a magicka dk in group.

Warraxx

Addictive10

Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

leepalmer95

@ChannelTribes IC hit's ps4 in 2 days, was wondering how fast i could get this build up and running? Are pris enchants v16 only? if so how long would a v16 set take or is this still possible with a v15 set?

Any temp gear you could recommend while i work towards black rose?

SRIBES

leepalmer95 wrote: »

I'm exited to play this build in the next 2 days.

How quickly could i get the equipment though? Does it have to be v16? or is v15 ok?

V15 gear works fine and takes only several hours to get depending on your telvar gain. I'm still in V15 gear and do fine with it, I came in 2nd place in the PC na dueling tournament on saturday, with v16 could have been first place maybe (:. V16 will provide an advantage but v15 works fine.

twistedmonk

I'm still trying to wrap my head around Heavy Armor vs Medium Armor....

is it just the Heavy Armor 5-piece 20% stamina reduction for block?

SRIBES

twistedmonk wrote: »

I'm still trying to wrap my head around Heavy Armor vs Medium Armor....

is it just the Heavy Armor 5-piece 20% stamina reduction for block?

Medium works fine but heavy is great because of
1. The extra damage mitigation.
2. The block cost reduc so you can 'perma block'
3. The sets you can get with heavy. Ex. Black Rose

Ishammael

twistedmonk wrote: »

I'm still trying to wrap my head around Heavy Armor vs Medium Armor....

is it just the Heavy Armor 5-piece 20% stamina reduction for block?

Mostly.

However, 5-piece heavy will have approximately 10k more total armor, depending on CPs. This works out to about 7% dmg reduction (6500 armor = 5%). Also, the healing received bonus from heavy is actually good now because damage and healing are both lower. The constitution passive, while not overly powerful, helps a bit as well managing stam. Next, stam builds benefit from putting everything into, well, stamina. Magicka builds typically require some sacrifice to achieve stamina stability. DK passives scale significantly with higher stats: Battle Roar returns a percentage of max and 5% stam return on Earthen heart skills (5% of 40k is 2k!).

Regardless, Medium armor is still good. Especially Hunding's and the new powerful assault set.

SRIBES

Addictive10 wrote: »

Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

Addictive10

ChannelTribes wrote: »

Addictive10 wrote: »

Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

tonemd

If this is what you were running yesterday in the Memorial district then you are right, good unless zerged.

Also good for swimming, apparently

SRIBES

Addictive10 wrote: »

ChannelTribes wrote: »

Addictive10 wrote: »

Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

It was good, the last fight the guy I was fighting got upset that I was using reverberating bash and talked to the officers of the guild to get the skill banned even though he had emp buffs and v16 gear as well as other advantages over me. It was a good duel though and I had fun (:

SRIBES

tonemd wrote: »

If this is what you were running yesterday in the Memorial district then you are right, good unless zerged.

Also good for swimming, apparently

Yeah, that's what I was running

Addictive10

ChannelTribes wrote: »

Addictive10 wrote: »

ChannelTribes wrote: »

Addictive10 wrote: »

Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

It was good, the last fight the guy I was fighting got upset that I was using reverberating bash and talked to the officers of the guild to get the skill banned even though he had emp buffs and v16 gear as well as other advantages over me. It was a good duel though and I had fun (:

Oh wow! Is there any videos of the tournament?

SRIBES

Cinbri wrote: »

Anyone can give me sypher stream record link where he dueles vs this build?

Go to syphers twitch page look at his past broadcasts and we duel on his stream from August 26 and August 29 on the PTS.

SRIBES

Addictive10 wrote: »

ChannelTribes wrote: »

Addictive10 wrote: »

ChannelTribes wrote: »

Addictive10 wrote: »

Hey Sribes, if they release a race change, would you change your redguard into an imperial? Im just curious.

If my health didn't break 30k then yes I would. Atm it does not so I would prefer being an imperial but redguards stam return is nice but not needed as I stated in the OP

Oh cool, I was just wondering. How was that tournament? I saw that you said you got 2nd place.

It was good, the last fight the guy I was fighting got upset that I was using reverberating bash and talked to the officers of the guild to get the skill banned even though he had emp buffs and v16 gear as well as other advantages over me. It was a good duel though and I had fun (:

Oh wow! Is there any videos of the tournament?

I don't believe so

Vernius

Is there a final verdict for choosing between 5pc Armor Master and 5pc Black Rose?

Isbilen

Isn't this pretty much the same build Sheliza proposed a while back, except everyone made fun of him when he did?

SRIBES

Isbilen wrote: »

Isn't this pretty much the same build Sheliza proposed a while back, except everyone made fun of him when he did?

LOL no.. I'm friends with sheliza he runs a tank set up, 5 footmans, 2 malubeth, master sword, etc. Not really even close. Sheliza is built for tanking and not dying 1v1 and tanking. People made fun of him for claiming to be one of the best when he just sat there and tanked. Very different, but you're right in a way because they both use ransack and heavy armor. Vastly different playstyles though