Snipe = win.

iTzStevey

Does anyone know of ZoS are planning on doing something, anything regarding snipe? It is literally "use this abiility to win" at this point.

eliisra

They are. You will no longer be able to flick Mage's Light to get 20% empower from sneak. This is of many reasons you're getting literally one shot these days. Of course also combined with 25% more physical dmg from CP, Minor Berserk for 8% more dmg on Snipe and Major Brutality 20% more weapon power.

I'm seeing close to 30k Focused Aims in PvP sometimes. But it's not really Snipe that's out of control, it's the buff stacking from stealth.

Dmg reduction is also going from 20% and up to 50% in PvP. Will prevent one shots or instagibb scenarios. Thing with Snipe is also the travelling time, it allows you to prepare and launch another skill while the arrow is still flying. So they target gets cc'ed and hit with 2-3 different attacks in less than one second. It's such a messy designs.

Ashamray

Use magelight. Ofc if sniper snipes you while in stealth you will probably die very soon. Anyway, snipe is useless in melee. And it is hard to cast against poison arrow / shock spammers,

Ganj

Im a sorcerer but i dont think that snipe is so op at the moment. I mean yes it is annoying and it could be dangerous but if you spot the guy fast probably you can kill him. But mage light definitely need a heelp tho, its useless right now.

chevalierknight

Roll

Halfwitte

over

Vizier

You have literally no idea what it takes to get good damage with snipe from stealth and what sacrifices are made to achieve it. People are just pissed cuz it's from NB. They barely whine about 20K hits from proximity mine and crystal frags with 10K staff hvy attacks, or 10K lava whip etc etc, but get sniped from your horse between keeps while unbuffed and wearing light armor and it the end of the world. L2P

ced30

Vizier wrote: »

You have literally no idea what it takes to get good damage with snipe from stealth and what sacrifices are made to achieve it. People are just pissed cuz it's from NB. They barely whine about 20K hits from proximity mine and crystal frags with 10K staff hvy attacks, or 10K lava whip etc etc, but get sniped from your horse between keeps while unbuffed and wearing light armor and it the end of the world. L2P

It's hardly a l2p issue when you're insta-gibbed, there's nothing you can do about it, maybe you should be at the other end of the bow someday to understand the problem.

Reverb

Vizier wrote: »

You have literally no idea what it takes to get good damage with snipe from stealth and what sacrifices are made to achieve it. People are just pissed cuz it's from NB. They barely whine about 20K hits from proximity mine and crystal frags with 10K staff hvy attacks, or 10K lava whip etc etc, but get sniped from your horse between keeps while unbuffed and wearing light armor and it the end of the world. L2P

There's some wacky stuff hitting for 20k on pts right now. If 2.1 goes live like that we may never see another complaint about snipe.

And I do swear a little about the damage dealt by Focused Aim, but it's not too tough to avoid or mitigate. I'm just still thrilled that the debuff stacking got fixed.

k2blader

Vizier wrote: »

You have literally no idea what it takes to get good damage with snipe from stealth and what sacrifices are made to achieve it. People are just pissed cuz it's from NB. They barely whine about 20K hits from proximity mine and crystal frags with 10K staff hvy attacks, or 10K lava whip etc etc, but get sniped from your horse between keeps while unbuffed and wearing light armor and it the end of the world. L2P

Yeah because it's so skilled to snipe a light armor build doing the equestrian simulator between keeps. lol

You need to L2P instead of PvEing against horse riders.

Moglijuana

k2blader wrote: »

Vizier wrote: »

You have literally no idea what it takes to get good damage with snipe from stealth and what sacrifices are made to achieve it. People are just pissed cuz it's from NB. They barely whine about 20K hits from proximity mine and crystal frags with 10K staff hvy attacks, or 10K lava whip etc etc, but get sniped from your horse between keeps while unbuffed and wearing light armor and it the end of the world. L2P

Yeah because it's so skilled to snipe a light armor build doing the equestrian simulator between keeps. lol

You need to L2P instead of PvEing against horse riders.

LMAO. Equestrian Simulator

Ezareth

Nothing puts a bigger smile on my face than the sound of a snipe. I was recently nodding off at my keyboardboard practically snoring in the middle of a field in cyrodiil late at night only to bit hit by a snipe and have reactions kick in, instant break free dodge roll/tri-pot> piercing mark > crit-charge> wrecking blow as he tries to cloak > incapacitating strike wide awake as I'm teabagging his corpse.

I think snipe is fine right now as it has plenty of counters and bow ganking is weak as hell compared to other ganking styles.

If you're a sorc > Crushing Shock
If you have a bow > Venom Arrow

Otherwise just get on top of them and if they're still using it bash their face in until they're ready to reroll on consoles.

Emma_Overload

People are complaining about Snipe... did I time travel to 2014?

Reverb

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

People are complaining about Snipe... did I time travel to 2014?

Between this and the "DK is op, NB is too weak" thread, I'm pretty sure we've traveled back in time. Quick, somebody try ground oils. Then we'll know for sure.

Vizier

ced30 wrote: »

Vizier wrote: »

You have literally no idea what it takes to get good damage with snipe from stealth and what sacrifices are made to achieve it. People are just pissed cuz it's from NB. They barely whine about 20K hits from proximity mine and crystal frags with 10K staff hvy attacks, or 10K lava whip etc etc, but get sniped from your horse between keeps while unbuffed and wearing light armor and it the end of the world. L2P

It's hardly a l2p issue when you're insta-gibbed, there's nothing you can do about it, maybe you should be at the other end of the bow someday to understand the problem.

k2blader wrote: »

Yeah because it's so skilled to snipe a light armor build doing the equestrian simulator between keeps. lol

You need to L2P instead of PvEing against horse riders.

That's the point. If you and others have the wherewithal of a scrub to not use magelight for from stealth damage mitigation and ride your horse everywhere despite knowing there are stealthed snipers about you deserve to get shot off your horse. The whole idea is to disrupt enemy reinforcements. If you can't be bothered to take the wide course to the next keep your riding to and or dismount some ways off and sneak to the keep or battle it's your own damn fault for getting sniped. Just because there is nothing you can do about it once it happens is not a problem with snipe. In order for a snipe to hit that hard consistently the NB has see you, cast 3-4 buffs, be using armor they've invested heavily in (up to 1 million for set) and get the shot off before the target LOS's. There's a million things that can go wrong.

I may as well complain that my Snipe build NB can't survive a fart in his general direction should I ever be detected. I mean. I don't have a chance in hell vs virtually anyone should they actually attack me. We don't complain because we KNOW the build was our own choice. Just as you shouldn't be complaining because of the choices you make in your build and play style that make you vulnerable to snipers.

There are plenty of other skills from other classes that hit like a truck when built right and the player stacks other buffing skills. 20-25K crystal frags. 20K detonation. 30K wrecking blow, 15K Hvy attacks from almost any weapon you can name, 15-20K assault strikes... etc etc.

The difference here is folks get PISSED when they can't see who hit them and start QQ because their sensibilities are stretched on what they think is "fair." Nevermind that they should be anticipating being hit from stealth because there is a CLASS DESIGNED TO DO THAT, but they ..YOU...refuse to use the skills that counter this class's strengths.

DK's and Templars with Hvy armor mitigate tons of damage. Plus they have spells that help with that too if they care to apply them. hint- You can wear some hvy armor too.

Sorcs have a spell that actually stuns the sniper if they are hit from stealth. I can tell you that spell SUCKS from a NB sniper's perspective. Bolt Escape -Ball Lightning actually sucks up arrows but of course you don't cast it from horse back... Maybe you should get off your horse.

Each class has access to magelight and hardened ward and can invest in critical hit damage reduction as well as poison, phisical and magical damage reduction with CC or (gasp) train your horse skills so you don't fall off when you get hit. All the above wreck havoc on a would be sniper but once again.... QQ is easier to do and seems to get better results from ZOS.

So yes. When I said it's a L2P issue...

Lava_Croft

Snipe is for noobs that don't have Jesus Beam.

Maphusail

eliisra wrote: »

They are. You will no longer be able to flick Mage's Light to get 20% empower from sneak. This is of many reasons you're getting literally one shot these days. Of course also combined with 25% more physical dmg from CP, Minor Berserk for 8% more dmg on Snipe and Major Brutality 20% more weapon power.

Speaking about magicka NB build, does it mean what you've said about Mage's Light that after Update 7 it become useless for stealth kind of gameplay? Or it only means that the dev's gonna fix the critical rating of it in stealth but you still can use it to gain +5% magicka? And when I'm in stealth or go invisible while my Mage's light is toggled on, am I visible for an enemy?

Jbugz97

Ezareth wrote: »

Nothing puts a bigger smile on my face than the sound of a snipe. I was recently nodding off at my keyboardboard practically snoring in the middle of a field in cyrodiil late at night only to bit hit by a snipe and have reactions kick in, instant break free dodge roll/tri-pot> piercing mark > crit-charge> wrecking blow as he tries to cloak > incapacitating strike wide awake as I'm teabagging his corpse.

I think snipe is fine right now as it has plenty of counters and bow ganking is weak as hell compared to other ganking styles.

If you're a sorc > Crushing Shock
If you have a bow > Venom Arrow

Otherwise just get on top of them and if they're still using it bash their face in until they're ready to reroll on consoles.

i say same as ^^^ bow is easy to counter

Solanum

Get rally going, have minor berserk ticking as well, now go to your bowbar, and briefly flick magelight. Not yet, wait till he's close. And then we spam snipe like a monkey. Free kill. Oh we're so skilled.
And yes, this isn't fair. Then again, sorcerers having a sick advantage trough their shield stacking and vastly superior mobility is not fair either. And bet your ass they have their own bugs to abuse.
Meanwhile the dragonknights are prancing about in their bugged Nirnhoned getting spellresistance trough the roof, giving the retardedly strong magicka sorcerers a reason to complain.
Not much to say about templars, aside from the few jesusbeam spamming monkeys in their midst.

Occasionally I try to make plate work, or invest a bit in health on my Nightblade, the result is that I get violated without a fighting chance. Whether it's because of the lag abuse, people using maces, or simply that any other armor is vastly superior.

PVP isn't balanced, but when someone writes a rant on it, there are always those defending broken mechanics because they're afraid to end up having to re-adept to a working balance.


I worry that in the new patch, investing in health will still be a *** choice for anyone with an interest in PVP, I worry that shadowcloak will make me, as a Nightblade rather immortal as long as I spec magicka. I worry that sorcerers will just stack shields making them practically immortal still and that allowing them to be crit is not nearly enough compared to the severe loss to blocking, and to an extend dodgerolling. And I fear that sword and board will probably be crap in PVP, more so then ever before.


On the bright side, Magelight will no longer give the 20% damage buff, and this coupled with the severely lowered damage in Cyrodiil will make sure that this skill while viable won't be the oneshot monster it is at the moment.

I'm just going to keep my fingers crossed for a chance to make a viable sword and board, stamina plate Nightblade character, but I highly doubt it to become anywhere near acceptable for pvp.

k2blader

Vizier wrote: »

ced30 wrote: »

Vizier wrote: »

You have literally no idea what it takes to get good damage with snipe from stealth and what sacrifices are made to achieve it. People are just pissed cuz it's from NB. They barely whine about 20K hits from proximity mine and crystal frags with 10K staff hvy attacks, or 10K lava whip etc etc, but get sniped from your horse between keeps while unbuffed and wearing light armor and it the end of the world. L2P

It's hardly a l2p issue when you're insta-gibbed, there's nothing you can do about it, maybe you should be at the other end of the bow someday to understand the problem.

k2blader wrote: »

Yeah because it's so skilled to snipe a light armor build doing the equestrian simulator between keeps. lol

You need to L2P instead of PvEing against horse riders.

That's the point. If you and others have the wherewithal of a scrub to not use magelight for from stealth damage mitigation and ride your horse everywhere despite knowing there are stealthed snipers about you deserve to get shot off your horse. The whole idea is to disrupt enemy reinforcements. If you can't be bothered to take the wide course to the next keep your riding to and or dismount some ways off and sneak to the keep or battle it's your own damn fault for getting sniped. Just because there is nothing you can do about it once it happens is not a problem with snipe. In order for a snipe to hit that hard consistently the NB has see you, cast 3-4 buffs, be using armor they've invested heavily in (up to 1 million for set) and get the shot off before the target LOS's. There's a million things that can go wrong.

I may as well complain that my Snipe build NB can't survive a fart in his general direction should I ever be detected. I mean. I don't have a chance in hell vs virtually anyone should they actually attack me. We don't complain because we KNOW the build was our own choice. Just as you shouldn't be complaining because of the choices you make in your build and play style that make you vulnerable to snipers.

There are plenty of other skills from other classes that hit like a truck when built right and the player stacks other buffing skills. 20-25K crystal frags. 20K detonation. 30K wrecking blow, 15K Hvy attacks from almost any weapon you can name, 15-20K assault strikes... etc etc.

The difference here is folks get PISSED when they can't see who hit them and start QQ because their sensibilities are stretched on what they think is "fair." Nevermind that they should be anticipating being hit from stealth because there is a CLASS DESIGNED TO DO THAT, but they ..YOU...refuse to use the skills that counter this class's strengths.

DK's and Templars with Hvy armor mitigate tons of damage. Plus they have spells that help with that too if they care to apply them. hint- You can wear some hvy armor too.

Sorcs have a spell that actually stuns the sniper if they are hit from stealth. I can tell you that spell SUCKS from a NB sniper's perspective. Bolt Escape -Ball Lightning actually sucks up arrows but of course you don't cast it from horse back... Maybe you should get off your horse.

Each class has access to magelight and hardened ward and can invest in critical hit damage reduction as well as poison, phisical and magical damage reduction with CC or (gasp) train your horse skills so you don't fall off when you get hit. All the above wreck havoc on a would be sniper but once again.... QQ is easier to do and seems to get better results from ZOS.

So yes. When I said it's a L2P issue...

So you know how you're feeling posting all this-- that's how it feels to play a sorc main and have everyone and his grandma want to nerf every useful class skill you have.

In this case, at least the person is commenting on just Snipe, which is a weapon skill available to everyone and is not any one class's core skill.

I don't have to time to address everything you mentioned, but one big thing: BoL does NOT "suck up arrows."

Oh, and I haven't been killed off my horse in a long time, which has had little to do with using a class or mages guild skill. But I still think anyone, regardless of class, whose typical gameplay consists of sitting in stealth sniping or otherwise ganking players riding horses is the most unskilled you could possibly find, with the exception of emp-blob-n-sploiters (plenty on EP/DC side).

So anyway, no one's going to stop you playing how you like, but don't get so huffy about the QQ over a weapon skill when you're more than willing to dish out heavy QQ on an entire class.

Solanum

Snipe is extremely effective because
-it can safely be cast from stealth
-can be buffed to do amazing damage
-multiple attacks can be cast before the first one lands.
-damage is currently too high
-hitpoint pools are currently low.

Snipe in current PVP is rather stupid, I know this because I use it. (even without flicking magelight)

However, with the damage reductions in place, snipe will be fixed. Sorcerers on the other hand, will still be stupidly powerful.

Mr_Nobody

There are a few people that simply 1 shoot anything that's not a 25k hp in HA. Best counter is quick reactions. And... Det pot. I do get 1shot alot, then i come back with det pots and claim my revenge. Always.

Makkir

Basic premise in all MMOs is if your opponent doesn't D/C or stand still while you hit him and kill him, then he's OP

Zuuman

Makkir wrote: »

Basic premise in all MMOs is if your opponent doesn't D/C or stand still while you hit him and kill him, then he's OP

This. Lmao

kadar

eliisra wrote: »

They are. You will no longer be able to flick Mage's Light to get 20% empower from sneak. This is of many reasons you're getting literally one shot these days. Of course also combined with 25% more physical dmg from CP, Minor Berserk for 8% more dmg on Snipe and Major Brutality 20% more weapon power.

I'm seeing close to 30k Focused Aims in PvP sometimes. But it's not really Snipe that's out of control, it's the buff stacking from stealth.

Dmg reduction is also going from 20% and up to 50% in PvP. Will prevent one shots or instagibb scenarios. Thing with Snipe is also the travelling time, it allows you to prepare and launch another skill while the arrow is still flying. So they target gets cc'ed and hit with 2-3 different attacks in less than one second. It's such a messy designs.

This.

Skill itself is fine. It's only useful once its been buffed by other skills to ridiculous proportions and used out of stealth. And the target doesn't have a proportionate shield up. And the target isn't blocking. And the target isn't running Radiant Magelight (which I'm finding is borderline mandatory these days with the legions of "ZOMG Magicka NBs are getting buffed, I go make one right meow" people).

AlaskeyLandshark

As others have said, it's fine. These builds basically take up 4-5 skill slots and lock their weapon choices in order to achieve these hits. If someone devotes that much of their slots in order to buff one attack, I'm fine with it because in a straight up fight that means they have that many less skills at their disposal. And then their is the multitude of ways you can counter it.

I mean... You do realize you can rearrange your skills depending on what's happening in pvp. I Run retreating maneuvers + magelight whenever I hop on my horse, and as soon as I get to combat they come off. It's not that hard, those 2 skills right there mean no snares/immobilizes and no threat of one shot. Then you just keep your horse stam at a non special ed level and you can run any path you want to the fight. It ain't rocket science.

Hell, I even use different skills in sieges than I do in open world pvp! People need to use their heads more and analyze fights and tactics instead of coming to the forum complaining.

Definitely a L2P issue.

Joy_Division

Vizier wrote: »

ced30 wrote: »

Vizier wrote: »

You have literally no idea what it takes to get good damage with snipe from stealth and what sacrifices are made to achieve it. People are just pissed cuz it's from NB. They barely whine about 20K hits from proximity mine and crystal frags with 10K staff hvy attacks, or 10K lava whip etc etc, but get sniped from your horse between keeps while unbuffed and wearing light armor and it the end of the world. L2P

It's hardly a l2p issue when you're insta-gibbed, there's nothing you can do about it, maybe you should be at the other end of the bow someday to understand the problem.

k2blader wrote: »

Yeah because it's so skilled to snipe a light armor build doing the equestrian simulator between keeps. lol

You need to L2P instead of PvEing against horse riders.

That's the point. If you and others have the wherewithal of a scrub to not use magelight for from stealth damage mitigation and ride your horse everywhere despite knowing there are stealthed snipers about you deserve to get shot off your horse. The whole idea is to disrupt enemy reinforcements. If you can't be bothered to take the wide course to the next keep your riding to and or dismount some ways off and sneak to the keep or battle it's your own damn fault for getting sniped. Just because there is nothing you can do about it once it happens is not a problem with snipe. In order for a snipe to hit that hard consistently the NB has see you, cast 3-4 buffs, be using armor they've invested heavily in (up to 1 million for set) and get the shot off before the target LOS's. There's a million things that can go wrong.

I may as well complain that my Snipe build NB can't survive a fart in his general direction should I ever be detected. I mean. I don't have a chance in hell vs virtually anyone should they actually attack me. We don't complain because we KNOW the build was our own choice. Just as you shouldn't be complaining because of the choices you make in your build and play style that make you vulnerable to snipers.

There are plenty of other skills from other classes that hit like a truck when built right and the player stacks other buffing skills. 20-25K crystal frags. 20K detonation. 30K wrecking blow, 15K Hvy attacks from almost any weapon you can name, 15-20K assault strikes... etc etc.

The difference here is folks get PISSED when they can't see who hit them and start QQ because their sensibilities are stretched on what they think is "fair." Nevermind that they should be anticipating being hit from stealth because there is a CLASS DESIGNED TO DO THAT, but they ..YOU...refuse to use the skills that counter this class's strengths.

DK's and Templars with Hvy armor mitigate tons of damage. Plus they have spells that help with that too if they care to apply them. hint- You can wear some hvy armor too.

Sorcs have a spell that actually stuns the sniper if they are hit from stealth. I can tell you that spell SUCKS from a NB sniper's perspective. Bolt Escape -Ball Lightning actually sucks up arrows but of course you don't cast it from horse back... Maybe you should get off your horse.

Each class has access to magelight and hardened ward and can invest in critical hit damage reduction as well as poison, phisical and magical damage reduction with CC or (gasp) train your horse skills so you don't fall off when you get hit. All the above wreck havoc on a would be sniper but once again.... QQ is easier to do and seems to get better results from ZOS.

So yes. When I said it's a L2P issue...

So you get huffy when someone exaggerates the skill you use ... and then respond in kind by exaggerating yourself?

25K crystal frags?

A class DESIGNED to snipe ... but somehow not designed for escape (cloak + bow 30% speed + double take)? If you dont stand a chance in hell vs anyone that attacks you, that's your l2p issue.

Ball of Lighting sucks up arrows?

If you sit there in stealth and insta-kill people who are not in a position can't fight back, you are going to have to deal with posts like this, just as medieval archers had to deal with their hands getting cut off, just like snipers have to deal with being put up against a wall and shot.

k2blader

Joy_Division wrote: »

So you get huffy when someone exaggerates the skill you use ... and then respond in kind by exaggerating yourself?

25K crystal frags?

A class DESIGNED to snipe ... but somehow not designed for escape (cloak + bow 30% speed + hasty retreat)? If you dont stand a chance in hell vs anyone that attacks you, that's your l2p issue.

Ball of Lighting sucks up arrows?

If you sit there in stealth and insta-kill people who are not in a position can't fight back, you are going to have to deal with posts like this, just as medieval archers had to deal with their hands getting cut off, just like snipers have to deal with being put up against a wall and shot.

Real medieval archers or Mongols or even earlier cultures must have been so much more incomparably badass though-- it's hard to even imagine. That said I'm glad I live in the current computer age. :-)

Zsymon

Use Radiant Magelight, it will stop the stun from Snipe, and reduce its damage by some 60%. No more one shots.

Alucardo

Has anyone taken the name Severus Snipe yet? If not, then dibs.

Vizier

Joy_Division wrote: »

Vizier wrote: »

ced30 wrote: »

Vizier wrote: »

You have literally no idea what it takes to get good damage with snipe from stealth and what sacrifices are made to achieve it. People are just pissed cuz it's from NB. They barely whine about 20K hits from proximity mine and crystal frags with 10K staff hvy attacks, or 10K lava whip etc etc, but get sniped from your horse between keeps while unbuffed and wearing light armor and it the end of the world. L2P

It's hardly a l2p issue when you're insta-gibbed, there's nothing you can do about it, maybe you should be at the other end of the bow someday to understand the problem.

k2blader wrote: »

Yeah because it's so skilled to snipe a light armor build doing the equestrian simulator between keeps. lol

You need to L2P instead of PvEing against horse riders.

That's the point. If you and others have the wherewithal of a scrub to not use magelight for from stealth damage mitigation and ride your horse everywhere despite knowing there are stealthed snipers about you deserve to get shot off your horse. The whole idea is to disrupt enemy reinforcements. If you can't be bothered to take the wide course to the next keep your riding to and or dismount some ways off and sneak to the keep or battle it's your own damn fault for getting sniped. Just because there is nothing you can do about it once it happens is not a problem with snipe. In order for a snipe to hit that hard consistently the NB has see you, cast 3-4 buffs, be using armor they've invested heavily in (up to 1 million for set) and get the shot off before the target LOS's. There's a million things that can go wrong.

I may as well complain that my Snipe build NB can't survive a fart in his general direction should I ever be detected. I mean. I don't have a chance in hell vs virtually anyone should they actually attack me. We don't complain because we KNOW the build was our own choice. Just as you shouldn't be complaining because of the choices you make in your build and play style that make you vulnerable to snipers.

There are plenty of other skills from other classes that hit like a truck when built right and the player stacks other buffing skills. 20-25K crystal frags. 20K detonation. 30K wrecking blow, 15K Hvy attacks from almost any weapon you can name, 15-20K assault strikes... etc etc.

The difference here is folks get PISSED when they can't see who hit them and start QQ because their sensibilities are stretched on what they think is "fair." Nevermind that they should be anticipating being hit from stealth because there is a CLASS DESIGNED TO DO THAT, but they ..YOU...refuse to use the skills that counter this class's strengths.

DK's and Templars with Hvy armor mitigate tons of damage. Plus they have spells that help with that too if they care to apply them. hint- You can wear some hvy armor too.

Sorcs have a spell that actually stuns the sniper if they are hit from stealth. I can tell you that spell SUCKS from a NB sniper's perspective. Bolt Escape -Ball Lightning actually sucks up arrows but of course you don't cast it from horse back... Maybe you should get off your horse.

Each class has access to magelight and hardened ward and can invest in critical hit damage reduction as well as poison, phisical and magical damage reduction with CC or (gasp) train your horse skills so you don't fall off when you get hit. All the above wreck havoc on a would be sniper but once again.... QQ is easier to do and seems to get better results from ZOS.

So yes. When I said it's a L2P issue...

So you get huffy when someone exaggerates the skill you use ... and then respond in kind by exaggerating yourself?

25K crystal frags?

A class DESIGNED to snipe ... but somehow not designed for escape (cloak + bow 30% speed + hasty retreat)? If you dont stand a chance in hell vs anyone that attacks you, that's your l2p issue.

Ball of Lighting sucks up arrows?

If you sit there in stealth and insta-kill people who are not in a position can't fight back, you are going to have to deal with posts like this, just as medieval archers had to deal with their hands getting cut off, just like snipers have to deal with being put up against a wall and shot.

Did I stutter? Actually I said "a class designed to hit from Stealth." If a player actually believes they should be able to ride, hither and thither without being ganked from stealth they are delusional. If their sensibilities are stretched such that they get all QQ because they don't have a chance once they get sniped that's their problem if they didn't take advantage of the skills that counter bow burst damage and from stealth hits and crits. If they can't be bothered to use common sense tactics when running around in Cyrodiil to minimize their exposure, once again that is their problem. NOT a problem with Snipe. Plenty of skills do comparable damage.

Never seen a 20K-25K crystal Frag? I have. 30K wrecking Blow? Yup. 15K hvy attack? Yup. Not an exaggeration at all.

For those in Rio Linda, perhaps I should have rephrased that. Don't get me wrong. My build is for Burst DPS and escape. Escape which I manage often enough. :-) But the trick is actually avoiding being attacked. My point is once engaged the prospect of escape drops dramatically. The point is, I'm not complaining about it because I chose the flipping build so your cry about L2P is gratuitous.

I've observed Snipes and other shots missing most of the time vs targets with BOL close by. I understand that it's supposed to be vs spell projectiles. That said, perhaps it's bugged or Snipe and some other skills are being classified as "spells." Hard to say but that' my observation.

As stated, if you run around in the open in your bath robe with your skivies around your ankles without a care in the world for from stealth damage, you deserve to be turned into a pin cushion....just sayin.