Snipe = win.

PikkonMG

Main issue with snipe is ability to machine gun it with animation canceling.

When I can fire 4 or 5 lethal arrows off in 2 seconds, target is normally dead before I even render on his screen.

Joy_Division

Vizier wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Vizier wrote: »

ced30 wrote: »

Vizier wrote: »

You have literally no idea what it takes to get good damage with snipe from stealth and what sacrifices are made to achieve it. People are just pissed cuz it's from NB. They barely whine about 20K hits from proximity mine and crystal frags with 10K staff hvy attacks, or 10K lava whip etc etc, but get sniped from your horse between keeps while unbuffed and wearing light armor and it the end of the world. L2P

It's hardly a l2p issue when you're insta-gibbed, there's nothing you can do about it, maybe you should be at the other end of the bow someday to understand the problem.

k2blader wrote: »

Yeah because it's so skilled to snipe a light armor build doing the equestrian simulator between keeps. lol

You need to L2P instead of PvEing against horse riders.

That's the point. If you and others have the wherewithal of a scrub to not use magelight for from stealth damage mitigation and ride your horse everywhere despite knowing there are stealthed snipers about you deserve to get shot off your horse. The whole idea is to disrupt enemy reinforcements. If you can't be bothered to take the wide course to the next keep your riding to and or dismount some ways off and sneak to the keep or battle it's your own damn fault for getting sniped. Just because there is nothing you can do about it once it happens is not a problem with snipe. In order for a snipe to hit that hard consistently the NB has see you, cast 3-4 buffs, be using armor they've invested heavily in (up to 1 million for set) and get the shot off before the target LOS's. There's a million things that can go wrong.

I may as well complain that my Snipe build NB can't survive a fart in his general direction should I ever be detected. I mean. I don't have a chance in hell vs virtually anyone should they actually attack me. We don't complain because we KNOW the build was our own choice. Just as you shouldn't be complaining because of the choices you make in your build and play style that make you vulnerable to snipers.

There are plenty of other skills from other classes that hit like a truck when built right and the player stacks other buffing skills. 20-25K crystal frags. 20K detonation. 30K wrecking blow, 15K Hvy attacks from almost any weapon you can name, 15-20K assault strikes... etc etc.

The difference here is folks get PISSED when they can't see who hit them and start QQ because their sensibilities are stretched on what they think is "fair." Nevermind that they should be anticipating being hit from stealth because there is a CLASS DESIGNED TO DO THAT, but they ..YOU...refuse to use the skills that counter this class's strengths.

DK's and Templars with Hvy armor mitigate tons of damage. Plus they have spells that help with that too if they care to apply them. hint- You can wear some hvy armor too.

Sorcs have a spell that actually stuns the sniper if they are hit from stealth. I can tell you that spell SUCKS from a NB sniper's perspective. Bolt Escape -Ball Lightning actually sucks up arrows but of course you don't cast it from horse back... Maybe you should get off your horse.

Each class has access to magelight and hardened ward and can invest in critical hit damage reduction as well as poison, phisical and magical damage reduction with CC or (gasp) train your horse skills so you don't fall off when you get hit. All the above wreck havoc on a would be sniper but once again.... QQ is easier to do and seems to get better results from ZOS.

So yes. When I said it's a L2P issue...

So you get huffy when someone exaggerates the skill you use ... and then respond in kind by exaggerating yourself?

25K crystal frags?

A class DESIGNED to snipe ... but somehow not designed for escape (cloak + bow 30% speed + hasty retreat)? If you dont stand a chance in hell vs anyone that attacks you, that's your l2p issue.

Ball of Lighting sucks up arrows?

If you sit there in stealth and insta-kill people who are not in a position can't fight back, you are going to have to deal with posts like this, just as medieval archers had to deal with their hands getting cut off, just like snipers have to deal with being put up against a wall and shot.

Did I stutter? Actually I said "a class designed to hit from Stealth." If a player actually believes they should be able to ride, hither and thither without being ganked from stealth they are delusional. If their sensibilities are stretched such that they get all QQ because they don't have a chance once they get sniped that's their problem if they didn't take advantage of the skills that counter bow burst damage and from stealth hits and crits. If they can't be bothered to use common sense tactics when running around in Cyrodiil to minimize their exposure, once again that is their problem. NOT a problem with Snipe. Plenty of skills do comparable damage.

Never seen a 20K-25K crystal Frag? I have. 30K wrecking Blow? Yup. 15K hvy attack? Yup. Not an exaggeration at all.

For those in Rio Linda, perhaps I should have rephrased that. Don't get me wrong. My build is for Burst DPS and escape. Escape which I manage often enough. :-) But the trick is actually avoiding being attacked. My point is once engaged the prospect of escape drops dramatically. The point is, I'm not complaining about it because I chose the flipping build so your cry about L2P is gratuitous.

I've observed Snipes and other shots missing most of the time vs targets with BOL close by. I understand that it's supposed to be vs spell projectiles. That said, perhaps it's bugged or Snipe and some other skills are being classified as "spells." Hard to say but that' my observation.

As stated, if you run around in the open in your bath robe with your skivies around your ankles without a care in the world for from stealth damage, you deserve to be turned into a pin cushion....just sayin.

Of course you didn't stutter. Because you'll just spout off any nonsense like BOL absorbs arrows just so you can feel good about yourself insta-killing people who aren't fighting back.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO

Snipe has a one second cast time you can't cast 4-5 in two seconds you can get two in the air and max range as you start to pull the bow for the third it's better to send two snipes up then a lethal injection for the kill but a snipe build is hard to pull off damage, crit and magic for when it goes wrong it takes more skill then you think. One could say that refreshing a 10k (weak side) uncritable shield that it takes less skill but let's not split hairs here

Farorin

I love when people complain that an easily countered ability is OP, or that when something kills them that it "takes no skill/risk to do".

"Nerf all the things I don't use" seems to be a common point of discussion on the forums.

Snipe is easily countered, if you are on a horse, pay attention, keep an ear out, be with a group, if you are not, shields up, wards up, whatever you use up, and if you are like me a poor stam NB glass cannon build, just listen for the distinctive snipe sound and roll dodge. Snipe really is not that hard to avoid or counter.

Reeko

Farorin wrote: »

I love when people complain that an easily countered ability is OP, or that when something kills them that it "takes no skill/risk to do".

"Nerf all the things I don't use" seems to be a common point of discussion on the forums.

Snipe is easily countered, if you are on a horse, pay attention, keep an ear out, be with a group, if you are not, shields up, wards up, whatever you use up, and if you are like me a poor stam NB glass cannon build, just listen for the distinctive snipe sound and roll dodge. Snipe really is not that hard to avoid or counter.

This.