Proof of 3 EP hackers

CN_Daniel

I have proof of 3 EP hackers on video. They are taking ~1k dmg from crystal shards that hit everyone else for at least 6-7k ea (when in all heavy armor). How can I provide this to ESO without this becoming a naming and shaming post?

I would like something actually done this time. As I'm sure everyone else would too...

Takllin

Short of posting the videos here, reporting them ingame, and flooding customer support with the videos, I don't think there is anything. They've been doing this for months, one of them has trolled the forums even about this and nothing has happened to them.

Garion

Nothing will happen. Filming them was a waste of time.

Kobaal

Takllin wrote: »

Short of posting the videos here, reporting them ingame, and flooding customer support with the videos, I don't think there is anything. They've been doing this for months, one of them has trolled the forums even about this and nothing has happened to them.

He cant post the video here because the mods will Ban him for "Naming and Shaming".... Its like showing the cops your security camera footage of someone breaking into your home, and then the cops arrest you for videotaping the guy...

booksmcread

Sadly, ZOS's track record with players exploiting in Cyrodiil is proof that they don't care.

CN_Daniel

Does anyone from ZOS have the 'biceps' to respond?

edit: It's indisputable proof in the video. The add-ons are not showing any damage being absorbed, it's literally "crystal shard 1.2k dmg"... or "mages fury 200dmg".

Erock25

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Does anyone from ZOS have the 'biceps' to respond?

edit: It's indisputable proof in the video. The add-ons are not showing any damage being absorbed, it's literally "crystal shard 1.2k dmg"... or "mages fury 200dmg".

I have a video of that in my youtube (linked in sig) and I have made zos aware of it multiple times. The hackers are still around.

Reverb

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Does anyone from ZOS have the 'biceps' to respond?

edit: It's indisputable proof in the video. The add-ons are not showing any damage being absorbed, it's literally "crystal shard 1.2k dmg"... or "mages fury 200dmg".

Oh, they'll respond...by shutting down the thread for naming and shaming. Not in any way that protects the integrity of their game.

CN_Daniel

no one was named nor shamed, so they can't shut it down for that.

Takllin

Make sure to tag ZOS people in the thread.

Unfortunately it seems to be a wasted effort.

EgoRush

How do you know it's a hack?
Were they blocking?
How many Nirnhoned pieces? Nirnhoned is bugged and giving too much resistance, but you can't blame the players for exploiting that - it's something ZOS needs to address.
The add-ons show there's no damage absorbed so it wasn't due to shields being up?
Had you been hit by Eclipse - Total Dark morph recently? Which would reduce your spell damage considerably. Or was it against a Templar that had used a Dawn's Wrath ability on you - that nerfs the damage they receive from enemy player spells.

Erock25 wrote: »

I have a video of that in my youtube (linked in sig) and I have made zos aware of it multiple times. The hackers are still around.

Tell ya what, I just watched the video you're probably referring to and I'm struggling to explain how that could be possible. There's times when he's on the floor for a while with Dawnbreaker, Jesus Beam and all sorts hitting him, yet he takes next to zero damage as a Sorc? Hmm, Whitestrake's Retribution proc'ing a shield at that point is all I can think of, but even that's a stretch. If it's a legit build then I want what he's having...

kevlarto_ESO

You know you all can pm the staff and pass stuff along, nothing needs to be posted in the forums at all.

Erock25

@EgoRush I'm glad you watched the video. It isn't Whitestrakes because if you look at my outgoing damage I am hitting him for very small numbers ... like 200 dmg. If it was a damage shield such as whitestrakes it would just say absorbed instead. There are two times in that video where the hacker is on the ground for quite a while, with no shields, and getting focused by multiple people and he lives. This guy in particular has been doing this for 8+ months.

umagon

I have been thinking they are sending the damage elsewere. I don't pve much but I think there is/was a set dessert rose that redirected damage to the magicaka bar. Maybe it's being stacked with something else and dark exchange or what ever it is that sorcs can use to drain their stam for magicaka.

CN_Daniel

I've played this game a lot, pvp, pve, etc etc.

I've never ever seen anything like this. This is just flat out jaw dropping not awesome.


I'm the guy in ts who tells everyone to quit crying they got beat and calling ppl hacks... This is the exception. This is so different than someone double-porting as a sorc, or teleporting through walls as a NB, this is really really hacking in some way.


One of them is a freaking vr6, taking on one of the BEST SORCS in this game, and he can't even get him to 50%. Not F'ing possible.

CN_Daniel

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

You know you all can pm the staff and pass stuff along, nothing needs to be posted in the forums at all.

I've messaged them before and they ignore everything. I guess the point of this thread is: There is a legitimate problem with a few people, who can I talk to and show the proof so i'm NOT ignored?

Takllin

umagon wrote: »

I have been thinking they are sending the damage elsewere. I don't pve much but I think there is/was a set dessert rose that redirected damage to the magicaka bar. Maybe it's being stacked with something else and dark exchange or what ever it is that sorcs can use to drain their stam for magicaka.

That set just gave you back a certain % of damage taken as magicka, it didn't reduce any damage taken.

CN_Daniel

The hard cap at damage mitigation with spell resist / armor is 50%, they are mitigating roughly 90% of the damage, without blocking.

There's something with the trapping webs thing, they are all using it...


My not commenting, ZOS is indirectly saying this isn't a hack, which makes me think: "How awesome this game would be if NPK came out with 3 full raids doing this?!?!?!"

Erock25

NPK Daniel wrote: »

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

You know you all can pm the staff and pass stuff along, nothing needs to be posted in the forums at all.

I've messaged them before and they ignore everything. I guess the point of this thread is: There is a legitimate problem with a few people, who can I talk to and show the proof so i'm NOT ignored?

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159340/zos-if-we-have-video-footage-of-hackers-should-we-send-it-somewhere-in-particular/p1

I got some responses from Gina Bruno in this thread and sent them the video and everything and the guy just kept on playing and hacking every single day, even posting on the message boards about how OP his build was and laughing at everyone else. I don't think it matters if they acknowledge you or not, your claims will be ignored.

Erock25

umagon wrote: »

I have been thinking they are sending the damage elsewere. I don't pve much but I think there is/was a set dessert rose that redirected damage to the magicaka bar. Maybe it's being stacked with something else and dark exchange or what ever it is that sorcs can use to drain their stam for magicaka.

It has something to do with vampire and I think Sorcerer for sure. I think they are somehow stacking the dmg mitigation from mistform even when they aren't in mistform and somehow it is multiplicative with the vamp passive dmg reduction as they lose health. These hackers definitely take higher incoming damage the more HP they have.

CN_Daniel

Erock25 wrote: »

umagon wrote: »

I have been thinking they are sending the damage elsewere. I don't pve much but I think there is/was a set dessert rose that redirected damage to the magicaka bar. Maybe it's being stacked with something else and dark exchange or what ever it is that sorcs can use to drain their stam for magicaka.

It has something to do with vampire and I think Sorcerer for sure. I think they are somehow stacking the dmg mitigation from mistform even when they aren't in mistform and somehow it is multiplicative with the vamp passive dmg reduction as they lose health. These hackers definitely take higher incoming damage the more HP they have.

Something has to be up with the trapping webs, never seen anyone use that before, they are popping the synergies for it like hot cakes.

trapping webs may be the link to the mist form* exploit. 75% mitigation for mist form, then add a little for light armor, yeah, 90% sounds about right.

CN_Daniel

OMG IF YOU JUST google: "mist form exploit" it's the same people in every video!!! LMFAO.

Erock25

NPK Daniel wrote: »

Erock25 wrote: »

umagon wrote: »

I have been thinking they are sending the damage elsewere. I don't pve much but I think there is/was a set dessert rose that redirected damage to the magicaka bar. Maybe it's being stacked with something else and dark exchange or what ever it is that sorcs can use to drain their stam for magicaka.

It has something to do with vampire and I think Sorcerer for sure. I think they are somehow stacking the dmg mitigation from mistform even when they aren't in mistform and somehow it is multiplicative with the vamp passive dmg reduction as they lose health. These hackers definitely take higher incoming damage the more HP they have.

Something has to be up with the trapping webs, never seen anyone use that before, they are popping the synergies for it like hot cakes.

trapping webs may be the link to the mist form* exploit. 75% mitigation for mist form, then add a little for light armor, yeah, 90% sounds about right.

I've never seen these guys use trapping webs before... that is even if we're talking about the same people.

CN_Daniel

def same people, they are the only people you find when you google 'mist form exploit'

just seems the creator has shared with two new jabronis.

Kobaal

It has to do with the following I think:

◾Harness Magika: Take 50% less spell damage while shield holds.
◾Mist form: Take 75% reduced damage from all sources

This was a known bug found a year ago. Here is the link if you want to read:

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/how-to-take-0-spell-damage-almost/

Domander

EgoRush wrote: »

How do you know it's a hack?
Were they blocking?
How many Nirnhoned pieces? Nirnhoned is bugged and giving too much resistance, but you can't blame the players for exploiting that - it's something ZOS needs to address.
The add-ons show there's no damage absorbed so it wasn't due to shields being up?
Had you been hit by Eclipse - Total Dark morph recently? Which would reduce your spell damage considerably. Or was it against a Templar that had used a Dawn's Wrath ability on you - that nerfs the damage they receive from enemy player spells.

Total dark doesn't do that anymore.

Domander

Kobaal wrote: »

It has to do with the following I think:

◾Harness Magika: Take 50% less spell damage while shield holds.
◾Mist form: Take 75% reduced damage from all sources

This was a known bug found a year ago. Here is the link if you want to read:

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/how-to-take-0-spell-damage-almost/

wow...

that harness magicka description is horribly outdated.

Morvul

Kobaal wrote: »

It has to do with the following I think:

◾Harness Magika: Take 50% less spell damage while shield holds.
◾Mist form: Take 75% reduced damage from all sources

This was a known bug found a year ago. Here is the link if you want to read:

http://tamrielfoundry.com/topic/how-to-take-0-spell-damage-almost/

Harness does not work that way any longer...

Kobaal

yea it was an old post from like a year ago.

PeggymoeXD

I will acknowledge ZOS seems to be making effort to push PvP in the right direction finally after over a year since launch. I like the ideas and changes that will hopefully make Cyrodiil more enjoyable, and that's coming from a former emperor, losing his buffs. But obvious exploits are just as serious as the performance we experience. When players are glitching through doors, and blatantly exploiting, taking next to no damage, this is just as gamebreaking as lag is. A week ago, the majority of this community could name two players right off the bat that are destroying PvP by cheating. And recently a third has joined them. How long until everyone realizes they can get away with things like this? And Cyrodiil becomes a COMPLETE wasteland of cheats and macro's.

Rylana

I have an idea, someone get the three people referenced in this video to come name and shame some people here on the forums

Then they might actually get sanctioned somewhere.