Since eveyone feels Cloak is OP

Bouvin

Just replace Cloak with Streak for Nightblades.

Problem solved.

While your at it, let's replace Refreshing Path or Agony with Hardened Ward.

TheElementalPlatypus

Better idea, lets trade impale for radiant destruction.

lel

Saft

Why do you need a replacement? Your already top in PVP, just nerf it and.

Problem solved.

While at it, nerf BoL also.

PeggymoeXD

Who thinks cloak is OP? I'm a dk and I love popping detect pots to see nb's enter panic mode.

Mumyo

shut up sissy!

Lyzaaa

Can we have fear, suprise attack and ur passives? ( 30% stamina regen and major resolve etc )

thanks for making other classes faceroll u now!

ToRelax

I'd love if NBs could get Streak instead of Cloak. Their qq would be real.

Erondil

Bouvin wrote: »

Just replace Cloak with Streak for Nightblades.

Problem solved.

While your at it, let's replace Refreshing Path or Agony with Hardened Ward.

Please... no

Vis

Yes give them streak instead of cloak (with the cost nerf too) and let the NB tears come. Then maybe some of them will learn some humility.

Ancile

Yes! Replace cloak with streak. I would farm NBs all day my crit charge lash combo. I think the OP needs to be careful for what he wishes for.

KingShocker

Ancile wrote: »

Yes! Replace cloak with streak. I would farm NBs all day my crit charge lash combo. I think the OP needs to be careful for what he wishes for.

you mean the crit charge then you get stunned by his next streak and he does 2 streaks in the time it takes you to break free out-ranging you're next gap closer. It's an ability that counters the abilities that counter it. could you imagine if the next cloak a nb used removed the effects of detection/PM or a BOL/GDB removed healing debuff's.

their's allot of OP abilities in this game, it's what makes it fun, but most of these OP abilities have hard counters. Ball of lightning and streak just don't have enough counters imo.

i would love an ability that would mark the place of a character and after X amount of time they get telleported back to that area. make it do no damage and have high cost and make it a alliance ability for everyone. It would not only be good for those endless streaking sorc's but for NB's and vamp's alike. it would also mean the caster would have to slot a high damage no cost ability that would be highly ineffective if you got caught out by yourself. just a thought.

KingShocker

i just now read a post domander where he mentioned the same type of back teleport ability. Even though i made the previous comment before i read his post he did post it before me so i'd like to give him credit for it.

Snit

It's 'P,' but that doesn't mean 'OP.'

Every class has one or two abilities that everyone else seems to hate. That's a positive. People need to understand that the other guy deserves awesome toys, too.

Soulac

I cloak meteors, jesus beams, Soul assaults and most enemy attacks.
Since Ambush doesn't break cloak I also use it as offense ability as often as possible and it synergies perfectly with my Khajiit passives.
In addition to that it grants me the ability to get out of fight for a couple of seconds or even to get completely away.. In case it works.
There is no way I'd trade cloak for any other skill, I'd rather give up Fear.

Cloak is a bit buggy, sure.. But it's still one of the best skills in eso and correctly used insanely strong.

Saft

Bouvin wrote: »

Just replace Cloak with Streak for Nightblades.

Problem solved.

While your at it, let's replace Refreshing Path or Agony with Hardened Ward.

Ok final offer, I offer you Eclipse, Jabs, Focused Charge, Solar Barrage, Radiant Aura for it!

Sanct16

Ok keys trade steak for cloak. GIEF NAO.

Gargragrond

As my dk currently has only the igneous shield from the class-lines on the bar, I think I'd gladly give away every single dk-skill in trade

Jules

Gargragrond wrote: »

As my dk currently has only the igneous shield from the class-lines on the bar, I think I'd gladly give away every single dk-skill in trade

Molten armaments? Reflective scale? Talons? Igneous shield? Green dragons blood? Ferocious leap? Corrosive armor?
Yeah I think not.

murtugo

Why worry about cloak???

People can counter it with detect pots and duplicate it with invisibility pots. On the other hand, I cannot think of any pot that can counter or duplicate bolt escape.

Sanct16

Because there is totally no CD on pots and DKs for example aren't reliant on tristat pots on CD. Having to sacrifice the use of tristats just to counter one skill seems legit.

Soulac

Sanct16 wrote: »

Because there is totally no CD on pots and DKs for example aren't reliant on tristat pots on CD. Having to sacrifice the use of tristats just to counter one skill seems legit.

Well 45sec CD, effect lasts 40.3sec.. That wouldn't be an issue.
Also cinderstorm is quite effective against cloak spamming NB.

Sanct16

Soulac wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Because there is totally no CD on pots and DKs for example aren't reliant on tristat pots on CD. Having to sacrifice the use of tristats just to counter one skill seems legit.

Well 45sec CD, effect lasts 40.3sec.. That wouldn't be an issue.
Also cinderstorm is quite effective against cloak spamming NB.

But you can't use tristats then.

Soulac

Sanct16 wrote: »

Soulac wrote: »

Sanct16 wrote: »

Because there is totally no CD on pots and DKs for example aren't reliant on tristat pots on CD. Having to sacrifice the use of tristats just to counter one skill seems legit.

Well 45sec CD, effect lasts 40.3sec.. That wouldn't be an issue.
Also cinderstorm is quite effective against cloak spamming NB.

But you can't use tristats then.

But I can't use cloak as good as usual then.. We both lose something :P

Joy_Division

I don;t think cloak is OP.

Ezareth

KingShocker wrote: »

Ancile wrote: »

Yes! Replace cloak with streak. I would farm NBs all day my crit charge lash combo. I think the OP needs to be careful for what he wishes for.

you mean the crit charge then you get stunned by his next streak and he does 2 streaks in the time it takes you to break free out-ranging you're next gap closer. It's an ability that counters the abilities that counter it. could you imagine if the next cloak a nb used removed the effects of detection/PM or a BOL/GDB removed healing debuff's.

their's allot of OP abilities in this game, it's what makes it fun, but most of these OP abilities have hard counters. Ball of lightning and streak just don't have enough counters imo.

i would love an ability that would mark the place of a character and after X amount of time they get telleported back to that area. make it do no damage and have high cost and make it a alliance ability for everyone. It would not only be good for those endless streaking sorc's but for NB's and vamp's alike. it would also mean the caster would have to slot a high damage no cost ability that would be highly ineffective if you got caught out by yourself. just a thought.

That's funny because I chain crit charged a sorc 9 times in a row as he ran on my nightblade last night. It's easy to do with a little skill. (having played a sorc before helps too)

cozmon3c_ESO

or you could hold block while you crit charge, stops you from being stunned by the bolt escape.

Vis

murtugo wrote: »

Why worry about cloak???

People can counter it with detect pots and duplicate it with invisibility pots. On the other hand, I cannot think of any pot that can counter or duplicate bolt escape.

It's called a speed pot and with gap closers it does an amazing job replicating bolt escape. On the other hand, cloak still gives 100% miss chance and stops channels even if someone uses a pot against it. But I guess forgetting inconvenient details is... convenient.

Lorkhan

Vis wrote: »

murtugo wrote: »

Why worry about cloak???

People can counter it with detect pots and duplicate it with invisibility pots. On the other hand, I cannot think of any pot that can counter or duplicate bolt escape.

It's called a speed pot and with gap closers it does an amazing job replicating bolt escape. On the other hand, cloak still gives 100% miss chance and stops channels even if someone uses a pot against it. But I guess forgetting inconvenient details is... convenient.

BS

ToRelax

murtugo wrote: »

Why worry about cloak???

People can counter it with detect pots and duplicate it with invisibility pots. On the other hand, I cannot think of any pot that can counter or duplicate bolt escape.

I played a stam Sorc the past 2 days...
Didn't have any problem chasing any Sorc with crit charge, I honestly thought it would be more difficult, they had no chance to escape.
Roll dodge canceled Boundless Storm with a bow and sprinted for 2-3 seconds, way faster than Bolt Escape. People were accusing me of speed hacks . And it's a lot more cost efficient than Bolt Escape. I didn't even have problems to get over objects or into positions I normally would with Bolt Escape, I jumped just as far.
Everyone can use a speed buff or potion and/or Crit Charge to keep up with a Bolt Escaping Sorc.

Now compare that to Cloak, in wich case I have to make a choice between regaining resources or revealing the NB with a potion. See the difference?

Rylana

The best feeling in the world... is just walking around in the middle of a field... knowing a nightblade is about to hit you with the silly fear/surpriseattack combo.

Survive the spike, make like youre gonna attack the nightblade, hit him with a light attack just to scare it.

Watch it panic and roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll away.

Pop a detect potion and see it watching you, legit scared to try again.

TheBucket

Rylana wrote: »

The best feeling in the world... is just walking around in the middle of a field... knowing a nightblade is about to hit you with the silly fear/surpriseattack combo.

Survive the spike, make like youre gonna attack the nightblade, hit him with a light attack just to scare it.

Watch it panic and roll roll roll roll roll roll roll roll away.

Pop a detect potion and see it watching you, legit scared to try again.

Mine's more like a Light attack on you to let you know I'm there.. Lure you away like a wounded animal into a more abandoned area to eat you alive.

I don't like to PvHorse unless I'm looking to kill 1 person quickly into hoping the other person gets off his horse for the above.