Proposal: one minute cooldown on wrecking blow

kijima

Perhaps what is required is replacing all two handers with pillows so they don't do any damage...

Lava_Croft

Wrecking Blow is fine. CC is broken.

OdinForge

They should just replace that entire skill, with something better and not as cheesy. I could come up with a million cool ideas for a single target 2H skill, that would blow uppercut out of the water and not be as broken at the same time.

Who even thought uppercut was a good idea?

Cody

OdinForge wrote: »

They should just replace that entire skill, with something better and not as cheesy. I could come up with a million cool ideas for a single target 2H skill, that would blow uppercut out of the water and not be as broken at the same time.

Who even thought uppercut was a good idea?

i personally think it should be replaced with a block breaking ability of some kind.

reften

1 second cast time on a melee attack...and it needs to be nerfed more? lol

KleanZlate

I'll trade you a cooldown on wrecking blow for an equal cooldown on sorcerer streak. Deal?

Docmandu

"Wrecking" blow.. they'd have to change the name!

Anyway cooldowns don't belong in this game! And I really don't see the issue with the skill, just step aside, it's so easy to make the spammer miss.

newtinmpls

So, OP, you want it to be useable only once in any given melee? And what skill do you suggest YOUR character limit in that way....?

cschwingeb14_ESO

Give it the bolt escape Nerf. Costs 50% more if used while the WB empower is still on you. Should be easy for devs to change, can be cleared by using another skill or light attack in between WBs, is in-line with what the skill was before (bonus damage could not trigger on WB), and allows for spamming as a high stam finisher

SHADOW2KK

ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »

I got a Masters Great Sword (third one so far) and a Masters Bow as a pvp reward today. I feel like the game is telling me that I need to go stamina. I prefer magicka melee but maybe I should give it another shot. Dark side here I come.

Good, join us:}, enjoy

SHADOW2KK

JDar wrote: »

You guys are right I was just huttburt about an encounter

2 handers are pretty easy to deal with as a nightblade TBH I just got caught with my pants down

Lot of good 2h players out there, sorry for dissing y'all

As a 2H player myself, I accept your apology:P

Lorkhan

one minute cooldown on any shield, that's the deal

JDar

I just think it is stupid that somebody can press a button and do 12000 damage in one second. You should have to build up and perform a combination of moves and spells to do something like that. I wish combat was more complex than this.

Cody

JDar wrote: »

I just think it is stupid that somebody can press a button and do 12000 damage in one second. You should have to build up and perform a combination of moves and spells to do something like that. I wish combat was more complex than this.

and I wish people did not have virtually unlimited stamina and/or magicka do to insanely high regain rates

I also wish I could see sarcasm better:D apparently I have failed at noticing it lately.

Cathexis

kijima wrote: »

Perhaps what is required is replacing all two handers with pillows so they don't do any damage...

Yes pillows...to absorb all the tears...

shiva7663

Bleargh. I hope that PvP complaints don't slop over into messing around with PvE again.

Farorin

Am I the only one that thinks the game is reasonably balanced at the moment? No one class is too powerful, no one skill line is too OP. Some have advantaged, but everything can be countered or avoided, and nothing is foolproof.

Sometimes I die, sometimes I don't.

I do not use 2H, yet I am fine with WB how it is, despite just yesterday getting jacked up by it a lot. In fact, I don't think anything needs to be nerfed, a few things need minor adjustments is all, but just minor, and most of those things are skills that could be tweaked to make them a bit MORE useful, not less so that people might occasionally use them.

kijima

Cathexis wrote: »

kijima wrote: »

Perhaps what is required is replacing all two handers with pillows so they don't do any damage...

Yes pillows...to absorb all the tears...

I had a player whom allowed me to spam wrecking blow on them, then the hate tell came.

I couldn't help but think, Y U NO DODGE ROLL?

Lettigall

kijima wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

kijima wrote: »

Perhaps what is required is replacing all two handers with pillows so they don't do any damage...

Yes pillows...to absorb all the tears...

I had a player whom allowed me to spam wrecking blow on them, then the hate tell came.

I couldn't help but think, Y U NO DODGE ROLL?

Don't ask dodge roll from players who doesn't even use right mouse button!

Yasha

How do you even land WB anyway, the animation is so obvious and long I never hit anyone with it. Is there a way to "mask" it like triggering WB while in a charge animation (or something)?

tonemd

One minute cooldown on a skill? Troll thread, right?

Jules

Is this a troll? One minute cooldown lol

Rohaus

I concur with the statement that cool downs DO NOT belong in this game... ESO is not designed for that... Srsly, get wrecked with the idea that a skill should have a 1 min cool down... If you want cool downs and along with that a massive amount of skills to press, go back to WoW where you came from...

This is another fine example of L2play.

Cody

Farorin wrote: »

Am I the only one that thinks the game is reasonably balanced at the moment? No one class is too powerful, no one skill line is too OP. Some have advantaged, but everything can be countered or avoided, and nothing is foolproof.

Sometimes I die, sometimes I don't.

I do not use 2H, yet I am fine with WB how it is, despite just yesterday getting jacked up by it a lot. In fact, I don't think anything needs to be nerfed, a few things need minor adjustments is all, but just minor, and most of those things are skills that could be tweaked to make them a bit MORE useful, not less so that people might occasionally use them.

the game is not balanced right now. however, its not due to classes or abilities themselves, its due to things like the broken CC system, ridiculous regen rates allowing for almost unlimited resources, lack of softcaps allowing gigantic resource pools, and other issues.

Bipolo

Make it interrupt-able, and its alright...

david.haypreub18_ESO

A cooldown is not the answer.

On the other hand, it should either not buff itself (because that just leads to spam), or be interruptable. To have it both buff itself and be uninterruptable is to me a little too much.

Zsymon

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

A cooldown is not the answer.

On the other hand, it should either not buff itself (because that just leads to spam), or be interruptable. To have it both buff itself and be uninterruptable is to me a little too much.

Empower only adds about 6% actual damage, I don't think this is excessive.

And no melee ability should ever be interruptable, it would make it entirely useless. This is exactly why Biting Jabs is so useless in PvP, not only does it give the target free CC immunity, but it is also interruptable.

The only way to land a Wrecking Blow against a decent player 1vs1, is through a combination of lag and Fear/Fossilize. Just get someone from another alliance to fight you for practice for a while, and you'll see how easy it is to avoid WB. It is slow, it is cumbersome and it has a narrow radius. Nerf WB in any way what so ever and 2H becomes useless in PvP for most classes (NBs would have Surprise Attack I guess).

Cody

Bipolo wrote: »

Make it interrupt-able, and its alright...

Zsymon wrote: »

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

A cooldown is not the answer.

On the other hand, it should either not buff itself (because that just leads to spam), or be interruptable. To have it both buff itself and be uninterruptable is to me a little too much.

Empower only adds about 6% actual damage, I don't think this is excessive.

And no melee ability should ever be interruptable, it would make it entirely useless. This is exactly why Biting Jabs is so useless in PvP, not only does it give the target free CC immunity, but it is also interruptable.

The only way to land a Wrecking Blow against a decent player 1vs1, is through a combination of lag and Fear/Fossilize. Just get someone from another alliance to fight you for practice for a while, and you'll see how easy it is to avoid WB. It is slow, it is cumbersome and it has a narrow radius. Nerf WB in any way what so ever and 2H becomes useless in PvP for most classes (NBs would have Surprise Attack I guess).

biting jabs is interruptable???????

curse my stupidity!!!!

Bipolo

Zsymon wrote: »

david.haypreub18_ESO wrote: »

A cooldown is not the answer.

On the other hand, it should either not buff itself (because that just leads to spam), or be interruptable. To have it both buff itself and be uninterruptable is to me a little too much.

Empower only adds about 6% actual damage, I don't think this is excessive.

And no melee ability should ever be interruptable, it would make it entirely useless. This is exactly why Biting Jabs is so useless in PvP, not only does it give the target free CC immunity, but it is also interruptable.

The only way to land a Wrecking Blow against a decent player 1vs1, is through a combination of lag and Fear/Fossilize. Just get someone from another alliance to fight you for practice for a while, and you'll see how easy it is to avoid WB. It is slow, it is cumbersome and it has a narrow radius. Nerf WB in any way what so ever and 2H becomes useless in PvP for most classes (NBs would have Surprise Attack I guess).

I think many of us would agree that the current version of WB needs a little tweak... (among other things)

Wrecking Block in its ancient form was great and i used it a lot in Cyro the first month after release. It did sadly lose most of its mojo when folks started reaching VR levels, along with most stamina builds back then.

However, it was a lot more fun and challenging using it with its longer cast time (making it way easier to interrupt) but the damage felt legit and so rewarding for good play compared to now.

I have tried it post 1.6 and imho it does not qualify as "hard to use" with its 1sec cast time and no chance at getting interrupted

Hence why i think people should be rewarded if they actually manage to interrupt a 1sec cast ability, even though its melee. You are after all exposing yourself winding up a hard hitting Wrecking Blow

Islyn

JDar wrote: »

You guys are right I was just huttburt about an encounter

2 handers are pretty easy to deal with as a nightblade TBH I just got caught with my pants down

Lot of good 2h players out there, sorry for dissing y'all

Well props for putting your pants back on over your underwear. Nice to see. +1.