LoL Sorc:)

King Bozo

Locust115 wrote: »

i startedwith a sorc on beta, im just hitting reapers march EP and im VR 11, almost 12/ campaign wise, it was fun playing a sorc, PVP, ive wrecked some VR14 guys who just didnt know what was up. just this level though. i think it depends how you play.

I think an issue is a lot of players that hit v14 think they can kill any v10-13 with no problems. I agree it is how you play 100 percent.

rogueslayer

I agree with Bozo to many cry babies trying to bring down other classes and the only thing they are accomplishing with all those tears is hurting the over all team performance.

Teargrants

Is it just me or has the quality of nerf sorc threads been progressively getting lower and lower? I am disappoint.

King Bozo

Teargrants wrote: »

Is it just me or has the quality of nerf sorc threads been progressively getting lower and lower? I am disappoint.

Lol. I usually only reply on Mondays on forums since server is down but read them once a day. I think we need some L2P threads . Maybe Zos will start including instruction manuals like the Nintendo did back long ago.

King Bozo

Armitas wrote: »

King Bozo wrote: »

Armitas wrote: »

King Bozo wrote: »

This thread reminds me of why i feel like I am on auto pilot when on my DK (they almost play themselves). Agree or disagree the DK is currently the strongest class in the game. Should a sorc (or any other classs) kill you often then its a L2P issue. I have 4 vet characters of each class. I did this to experience each class and get a perspective of each class. You look silly complaining about other classes if DK is your main character period. When i play DK I feel like a spoiled kid that cant afford to buy my own underwear.

Your profile says you joined on March 25 2015 and you have 4 vet characters. Can you really expect us to believe you have a representative impression of all 4 classes in 12 days?

I am not a forum person but after seeing these ridiculous whining complaints i decided to join. I have been playing since April/May of 2014. I got 300 plus day subscriber gifts if that's what you want to call them (tiger mount and cheerful slaughter costume). I have done all end game content with different vet toons. Either way i don't care what you want to believe i am just another player in eso . By the way if i had to suggest to a new player character to roll being strongest class i would say DK followed by Temp. Challenging try a sorc which is a lot of fun.

My mistake, and welcome to the forums.

The DK and templar are more friendly to new players because they have direct and obvious heals. At least with DK's they are the easiest to drive by anyone that enters the cackpit because their primary mechanics are upfront and obvious. But that does not represent what an experienced pilot can accomplish in that toon or other toons. The ergonomics of the cackpit do not disallow someone from complaining about other aspects either.

(spelling intentional otherwise it's just ***)

Thank you. I guess depending on what your goal is with each class you can make them whatever you want and might take a more experienced player perhaps. I run with a NB tank that has 40k health thats right 40k health. He tanks with no problems in pve. This is rare but I guess if you really want to do something with a class you can do it

Vizier

Shield stacking is the key. First thing. Allow for crit on bubbled players. See how that goes.

technohic

Vizier wrote: »

Shield stacking is the key. First thing. Allow for crit on bubbled players. See how that goes.

And again, we will go more toward hurting other classes more than sorc.

Joy_Division

woodsro wrote: »

Another one of these? Where exactly did sorc's get buffed?

Streak- nerfed
Crushing Shock -nerfed
Hardened Ward- nerfed 15%
Daedric Summons - nerfed pts
Surge - nerfed
Expert mage- nerfed
Exploitation -nerfed

Sorc was the most nerfed class on pts had more direct class nerfs then any other class. I swear there is no end to you people.

If you can't kill a sorc, I don't know what to tell you, I filled a kill 20 sorc contract last night in a half hour.

According to people on here sorcs just never die which is nonsense, we wear paper for armor, and must rely on spending magic resources to have any defense at all. I guess we should just be one shot cannon fodder who can't heal nor run, then maybe folks would be happy......

It's funny that all those people in my guild are dusting off the mothballs and breaking our their sorcerers after months of inactivity. Literally every skill I used on my sorc in 1.5 was buffed. You are just talking fantasy.

TheBucket

cozmon3c_ESO wrote: »

Rune_Relic wrote: »

Gorthax wrote: »

no one talks about perma dodge rollers who roll around and WB spam when they can until you die then dodge roll away......but hey sorcs op right?

Well at least perma-rollers cant escape from combat...with a couple of streaks.
You have neither the distance nor the speed.

Given the choice between permashields + escape at leisure vs infinite roll, I think I know which I would prefer.

anyone can keep up with a bolt escaper now just with a charge on your bar or the upcoming common use of speed abilities combining major and minor speed boosts. you will out run a bolter and still have more stats then they do when you reach them.

Lol. Hes trying.

Vis

How original! Another DK crying nerf for sorcs. My DK has never had an issue nuking sorcs. Especially after 1.6. I guess some people learn to adapt and other do not.

cozmon3c_ESO

i just dont see how any DK can whine about a sorc, they can negate most damage just by keeping up RS as a magicka build, or roll dodge as a Stam build. then as a mag build heal with GDB forever or Momentum + new alliance war stam heal for stam.

dk's wreck face in pvp right now, as much as they did and more. And if you dont you need to get some advice from other dk's.

Erock25

Vizier wrote: »

Shield stacking is the key. First thing. Allow for crit on bubbled players. See how that goes.

If you let blocking reduce dmg my shield takes, then sure.

Glurin

I ran into a NB yesterday that I couldn't kill. NBs are OP and need to be nerfed. People need to wake up to how OP NBs are. It's so obvious it's amusing.

RinaldoGandolphi

Joy_Division wrote: »

woodsro wrote: »

Another one of these? Where exactly did sorc's get buffed?

Streak- nerfed
Crushing Shock -nerfed
Hardened Ward- nerfed 15%
Daedric Summons - nerfed pts
Surge - nerfed
Expert mage- nerfed
Exploitation -nerfed

Sorc was the most nerfed class on pts had more direct class nerfs then any other class. I swear there is no end to you people.

If you can't kill a sorc, I don't know what to tell you, I filled a kill 20 sorc contract last night in a half hour.

According to people on here sorcs just never die which is nonsense, we wear paper for armor, and must rely on spending magic resources to have any defense at all. I guess we should just be one shot cannon fodder who can't heal nor run, then maybe folks would be happy......

It's funny that all those people in my guild are dusting off the mothballs and breaking our their sorcerers after months of inactivity. Literally every skill I used on my sorc in 1.5 was buffed. You are just talking fantasy.

I am not going to say anymore. I don't want this thread to get derailed or turned into a big argument. I have respect for folks on here. We are all set in our opinions it seems, but i do think its the near infinite regen builds that allows pretty much infinite dodge rolling and infinite shield casting to be the major issue. I think if that got addressed the problem would solve itself.

Spangla

See - Highly impressive sorc whining skills on display:)

TheBucket

Glurin wrote: »

I ran into a NB yesterday that I couldn't kill. NBs are OP and need to be nerfed. People need to wake up to how OP NBs are. It's so obvious it's amusing.

Sorry bout that.

Ezareth

TheBucket wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

I ran into a NB yesterday that I couldn't kill. NBs are OP and need to be nerfed. People need to wake up to how OP NBs are. It's so obvious it's amusing.

Sorry bout that.

Let me guess? Resto Staff + Healing ward? Yeah those NBs are the ones who are damn near impossible to kill without luck or a mistake on their part. Don't worry though, the rest are still too busy crying about a lack of a class heal and cloak bugs to realize how freaking powerful their class is when played properly.

jelliedsoup

Sorcs just shield and then frag /curse/ overload - Apparently this requires skill.

cozmon3c_ESO

jelliedsoup wrote: »

Sorcs just shield and then frag /curse/ overload - Apparently this requires skill.

more then just spamming snipe from the background from stealth and then cloaking again.

jelliedsoup

@cozmon3c_ESO i think they're about the same.

I get no dps in melee apart from wrecking blow. This game does not require much skill. Its not an fps or anything.

Ive been killed by forrest when he was afk unitil 20% health. Thrn he healed shielded and fragged. i hit him about 10 times he hit me 4 times yet he's more skilled.

Dont fool yourself into believing this game is won by skill. Ive beaten many people who were better than me it's just that i hit harder due to gear.


i dont like the infinite healing, shielding or rolling allowed in this game.

Perhaps zos want to kill pvp to reduce the lag.

LegendaryMage

How many people here play a stamina sorcerer? It is a practically classless setup, with practically no useful class skills whatsoever.

jelliedsoup

Glurin wrote: »

I ran into a NB yesterday that I couldn't kill. NBs are OP and need to be nerfed. People need to wake up to how OP NBs are. It's so obvious it's amusing.

Each class has access to skills which are OP if you're specced for them.

To nerf an nb skill which isn't op would be silly.

Glurin

jelliedsoup wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

I ran into a NB yesterday that I couldn't kill. NBs are OP and need to be nerfed. People need to wake up to how OP NBs are. It's so obvious it's amusing.

Each class has access to skills which are OP if you're specced for them.

To nerf an nb skill which isn't op would be silly.

Funny how that works, isn't it.

jelliedsoup

Glurin wrote: »

jelliedsoup wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

I ran into a NB yesterday that I couldn't kill. NBs are OP and need to be nerfed. People need to wake up to how OP NBs are. It's so obvious it's amusing.

Each class has access to skills which are OP if you're specced for them.

To nerf an nb skill which isn't op would be silly.

Funny how that works, isn't it.

Im guessing anything which i think is op in your sceanario is actually not?

Right i see what you did there.

The mitagation and dps of sorcs is like dks when this game was released.

jelliedsoup

LegendaryMage wrote: »

How many people here play a stamina sorcerer? It is a practically classless setup, with practically no useful class skills whatsoever.

Wouldn't a stam sorcerer be like a 2 h focusing on mag?

Mojomonkeyman

I play stam sorc, s&b + dw - 2 class skills, yeah! If I would run 2h instead of s&b it is 1 class skill total. Sorc skills so op for anything other than full mag sorc... It`s like so op I don`t even know what to chose.

TheBucket

Ezareth wrote: »

TheBucket wrote: »

Glurin wrote: »

I ran into a NB yesterday that I couldn't kill. NBs are OP and need to be nerfed. People need to wake up to how OP NBs are. It's so obvious it's amusing.

Sorry bout that.

Let me guess? Resto Staff + Healing ward? Yeah those NBs are the ones who are damn near impossible to kill without luck or a mistake on their part. Don't worry though, the rest are still too busy crying about a lack of a class heal and cloak bugs to realize how freaking powerful their class is when played properly.

Yea, with Degen, Swallow Soul, Red Diamond passive, healing ward. I have steady flow of healing and imperial allows me to be around 30k magic while still having 21k health

Stamden

woodsro wrote: »

Another one of these? Where exactly did sorc's get buffed?

Streak- nerfed
Crushing Shock -nerfed
Hardened Ward- nerfed 15%
Daedric Summons - nerfed pts
Surge - nerfed
Expert mage- nerfed
Exploitation -nerfed

Sorc was the most nerfed class on pts had more direct class nerfs then any other class. I swear there is no end to you people.

If you can't kill a sorc, I don't know what to tell you, I filled a kill 20 sorc contract last night in a half hour.

According to people on here sorcs just never die which is nonsense, we wear paper for armor, and must rely on spending magic resources to have any defense at all. I guess we should just be one shot cannon fodder who can't heal nor run, then maybe folks would be happy......

They were broken from the begginning lmao. It's just a matter of the only other decent class getting nerfed to *** that put them ontop.

Lava_Croft

The moment a Sorcerer includes a weapon skill in the list of 'nerfed Sorcerer skills', I can just faintly smile and feel sorry for said Sorcerer.

Singular

Alexander Powerkill wrote: »

Guys I main a DK and I would challenge anyone saying sorc is op to actually play one. That will change your mind. Sorc damage is all about timing. If you time wrong your target heals\shields up and comes back at ya. BE IS NOT a guaranteed escape much like dark cloak it bugs out quite frequently (at least BoL seems to bug as my ball doesn't ever absorb *** lol). If they get stunned with any more than 2 ppl hitting them than it is goodnight as they are 7/7 light and if u can't burn through a 10k shield then u need to L2P. Point is stop whining

No wonder I suck as a sorc!


No, seriously, I really do