Templar's Focused Charge STILL has Global Cool Down?

likewow777

They're never gonna fix the skill. People don't use it because of a "bug" in their code, which means people in PvP don't use it either, and as long as it isn't breaking PvP it isn't worth their time. It's quite cyclical, actually.

1. Bug makes skill useless
2. Players don't use skill because of bug

Therefore: ZOS doesn't fix a bug because it isn't causing issues because no one uses it because ZOS doesn't fix a bug because it isn't causing issues because no one uses it because ZOS... etc.

QED

AriBoh

Damn tired of the silence. Wake up ZOS. You can only screw melee temps so long. Or should we just whine like sorcs till we get a green post?

Skafsgaard

Any new input?

glak

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Damn tired of the silence. Wake up ZOS. You can only screw melee Dual Wield or magicka bombing temps so long. Or should we just whine like sorcs till we get a green post?

Inline comment. 2H and shield bearers have a weapon-based charge.

AriBoh

glak wrote: »

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

Damn tired of the silence. Wake up ZOS. You can only screw melee Dual Wield or magicka bombing temps so long. Or should we just whine like sorcs till we get a green post?

Inline comment. 2H and shield bearers have a weapon-based charge.

Melee Magika. Better?

david.haypreub18_ESO

So, still no word on ZOS about this? It really is a simple question: is the GCD a feature or a bug?

Mumyo

Someone asked this in eso live talk. they say its a bug and they work on it.............

david.haypreub18_ESO

I was the one who asked the question. Eric said it was a bug and would be removed... but on the 1.6 patch notes they just said they 'slightly reduced' the global cool down. So we need to know: is the cool down here to stay, as the patch notes suggest, or is it a bug, as Eric claimed? That's all I'd like to know.

AriBoh

Contents of planned Templar fixes file.

pHlipper

Perhaps something new old...
.. after completly blocking my skill bar (incl. weapon switch - withe the new nice lock icon!) after a focused charge, google send me here. Strange, it seems it happened only outdoors - exactly like my problems after using (total) eclipse against casters.
This consistency appears to be a "feature"

Joy_Division

I doubt this is a bug. That ZoS could alter the "bug" and intentionally make it feel "more responsive" suggest that the ability works as intended, despite what Eric W. said in a Live episode.

david.haypreub18_ESO

Joy_Division wrote: »

I doubt this is a bug. That ZoS could alter the "bug" and intentionally make it feel "more responsive" suggest that the ability works as intended, despite what Eric W. said in a Live episode.

That is my suspicion too... but holy $#!+, what does it take for a Templar to get a simple answer here? There is a clear contradiction between what their lead combat designer Eric said and what is currently in the game. A single sentence confirming it one way or the other should not take 2 months of asking.

AriBoh

*uses soul gem on thread*

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Joy_Division

darkknightfkb16_ESO wrote: »

*uses soul gem on thread*

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Apparently you used a lesser soul gem...

AriBoh

Prolly need to buy one from the crown store to get them to pay attention.

Cinbri

C'mon many templar's abilities were ninja-nerfed or not working in 1.6 and situation even worse after Tamriel Unlimited. Deal with fact that ZOS hates templars.

AriBoh

@zos you are complete lying gits.

Skafsgaard

pHlipper wrote: »

Perhaps something new old...
.. after completly blocking my skill bar (incl. weapon switch - withe the new nice lock icon!) after a focused charge, google send me here. Strange, it seems it happened only outdoors - exactly like my problems after using (total) eclipse against casters.
This consistency appears to be a "feature"

Eclipse cannot be cast on CC immune mobs/players, I think that's your issue there. Bugged me in the begging as well, untill i figured it out. This of course makes more or less completely worthless, unless you're soloing/duoing a resource in Cyrodiil. Breaking it (done by regular CC break) also grants CC immunity. Eclipse needs to be soft CC and a status effect which be purged, purified, cloaked but NOT CC break out of - the skill is worthless.

AriBoh

Right now if you cast eclipse on a target that can actually throw a spell at you, all your skills will not trigger till the eclipse falls off is what he meant.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_JasonLeavey @ZOS_PaulSage can we at least be told you know of all the bugs with templar skills, the rage is real here and while I understand it can be hard to find and fix bugs your silence to a whole class does nothing to alleviate our frustration.

Skafsgaard

No new, but I have been told by mod not to 'bump' this thread, so is clearly being watched. The lack of any form of statement comment is indicative to me that no one at ZoS really gives a rats arse about applying fixes to clearly broken class skills.

david.haypreub18_ESO

So they are refusing to say whether it is a bug or working as intended?

FireCowCommando

Dont forget that theres also a completely GAME BREAKING bug with this ability right now, where your character locks up for 10+ seconds.

Or that eclipse is un-usable due to another GAME BREAKING bug.

For new players: Dont roll templar you are wasting space on your character selection sheet until this is fixed.

AriBoh

FireCowCommando wrote: »

Dont forget that theres also a completely GAME BREAKING bug with this ability right now, where your character locks up for 10+ seconds.

Or that eclipse is un-usable due to another GAME BREAKING bug.

For new players: Dont roll templar you are wasting space on your character selection sheet until this is fixed.

Are a number of Templar skills broken? - Yes
Are the devs either doing nothing or just telling us nothing? - Yes
Is the Templar class completely ruined by these problems? - No

Temps aren't the new uber class everyone in the PTS forums were claiming but they are far from the bottom as the were in the past for dps, are the easiest if not the best healers and have never been bad tanks. If we could just fix these bugs/features that can make a select number of skills worthless we'd be in a good place.

All hail the beam.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom Info please.

tplink3r1

Toppling Charge sometimes doesn't hit your target if he is running, and it also gets me stuck 1/5 of the time after i cast it.

Inactive Account

You know.... If they added an item into the Crown store along the lines of...


1500 Cp for an item that will provide the purchaser with an actual/factual response from the people in charge of this game.

I would buy many,many,many, because I have a lot of unanswered / ignored questions.

How's that for a revenue stream?

They would make enough money to fix the problems that are Undeniably present.

Yolokin_Swagonborn

Still broken. Still unacceptable.

Here is an info dump of resources.

Here is the Recent Poll.



Screenshot of section in Patch notes calling it a post global cooldown.



Link to ESO Live on 02/13/2015 where Eric Wrobel says its a "bug" and they are going to fix it. @59m35s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSjxZZTS1Uw#t=59m35s

Eric: "That's just a bug, and we're looking into getting it fixed"
Gina: "Done!"

david.haypreub18_ESO

Still hoping for a response.... [tumbleweeds]

glak

With the GCD removed, DW Templar would duplicate 2H magically for that spellsword feel.

glak

likewow777 wrote: »

They're never gonna fix the skill. People don't use it because of a "bug" in their code, which means people in PvP don't use it either, and as long as it isn't breaking PvP it isn't worth their time. It's quite cyclical, actually.

1. Bug makes skill useless
2. Players don't use skill because of bug

Therefore: ZOS doesn't fix a bug because it isn't causing issues because no one uses it because ZOS doesn't fix a bug because it isn't causing issues because no one uses it because ZOS... etc.

QED

This makes a lot of sense because they don't replace useless skills, only OP ones. However, if they would have replaced it in 1.6, then the replacement would have been what Radiant Destruction replaced: a toned down tanking version of blinding flashes.

technohic

The cool down is the least of concerns with this skill, even. The getting stuck in the animation can happen often and up to 30 seconds in length.