Mending – Increase Healing Done Major (30%) – Igneous Shield (DK) With Video

Alcast

Sure, why not give the Dragonknights the STRONGEST healing buff in the game?



EDIT: Just tested, works also on groupmembers

http://youtu.be/jW7NEvEPb7c

So When poping Igneous shield you get 30% inc healing and 5% more weap dmg for the whole group. Awesomo, gonna roll a DK healer

Dracane

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

Gyudan

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

What? Only 30% buff? DKs want moarrr!

Alcast

I have to go check again if it is still 30%

Dracane

Gyudan wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

What? Only 30% buff? DKs want moarrr!

Greedy boy

r.jan_emailb16_ESO

Only applies to the DK, and only lasts for 6 seconds.

Night-claw

why everyone pointing fingers at dk's.. the heal buff isn't that strong it last 7 sec from when ability was actived And i can answer your questing the healing buff only applys to you who cast it but use any other healing abilitys on your ally's that heal is inceased.

Alcast

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

Only applies to the DK, and only lasts for 6 seconds.

you sure?

Morvul

why, DKs are best DPS, best Tank and second best healers? (That BoL of Templars still pushes them ahead)
sounds like DKs need a healing buff, nothing else wrong here

Alcast

Okay, it is still on 30% PTS 1.6.3

Non crit 775, crit 1007
With Mending buff: Non crit 1162, crit 1510

http://youtu.be/jW7NEvEPb7c

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

Only applies to the DK, and only lasts for 6 seconds.

nope, just tested again, works on other ppl too.

madangrypally

Templar have Focused Healing: Increases the healing effects of your Restoring Light abilities by 30% for allies within the target area of Rite of Passage, Cleansing Ritual, and Rune Focus.

When I healed as a Templar I would try to keep Cleansing Ritual up. It provided a 30% increase to my class heals as well as a small heal over time and a way for others to remove harmful effects when needed.

IMO the DK Igneous Shield is not overpowered compared to the Templars Focused Healing.

Seraphyel

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

Insane? That's NOT insane, that's the only tools DK healers have that makes them equal to other healers. They tend to be still weaker than NBs and Templars.

If you tame away the healing buff, DK healers can be tossed in the trash again.

It only lasts 7 seconds and it only applies to the DK so... it's totally fine.

Alcast

Seraphyel wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

Insane? That's NOT insane, that's the only tools DK healers have that makes them equal to other healers. They tend to be still weaker than NBs and Templars.

If you tame away the healing buff, DK healers can be tossed in the trash again.

It only lasts 7 seconds and it only applies to the DK so... it's totally fine.

It does work on groupmembers, check my video. DK Healer> NB healer LoL

madangrypally wrote: »

Templar have Focused Healing: Increases the healing effects of your Restoring Light abilities by 30% for allies within the target area of Rite of Passage, Cleansing Ritual, and Rune Focus.

When I healed as a Templar I would try to keep Cleansing Ritual up. It provided a 30% increase to my class heals as well as a small heal over time and a way for others to remove harmful effects when needed.

IMO the DK Igneous Shield is not overpowered compared to the Templars Focused Healing.

If i remeber right the Restoring Light got nerfed to 10%. BUt have to test again to be sure.

LtCrunch

DK and NB are both great healers in update 6 and quite close to Templars. Each class just goes about healing in their own unique way. This is a good thing, not a bad thing. Class choices in this game should not shoehorn people into specific roles. Now the Sorc just needs some healing love and ZOS can pat themselves on the back for a job well done.

Joy_Division

It is only 6 seconds, not permanent...

Tonnopesce

And what is the point? (Actually is 33%)
If you have a templar you have breath of "easy mode" life, if you have a nb you have sap essence , if you have a dk you have the igneus shield and if you have a sorc...... Well you can just go hide somewere....

Alcast

Joy_Division wrote: »

It is only 6 seconds, not permanent...

Recast every 6 sec so your partymembers get a shield to protect themself? I do not see a problem there. That is first thing I would do as a DK Healer.

madangrypally

Alcast wrote: »

If i remember right the Restoring Light got nerfed to 10%. BUt have to test again to be sure.

Restoring light did get nerfed to 10%, but Focused Healing is a different passive. Focused Healing increases healing done by 30% when standing in cleansing ritual, rune focus, and passage of light.

I like cleansing ritual as it has a nice large radius and last 12 seconds. With morph its not that expensive either. IMO its easy to keep up thus its easy to keep the 30% increase heal. Only works on class heals though which I dont find to be a problem.

IMO people need to stop talking about Nerfing DKs and im not even a DK.

Alcast

madangrypally wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If i remember right the Restoring Light got nerfed to 10%. BUt have to test again to be sure.

Restoring light did get nerfed to 10%, but Focused Healing is a different passive. Focused Healing increases healing done by 30% when standing in cleansing ritual, rune focus, and passage of light.

I like cleansing ritual as it has a nice large radius and last 12 seconds. With morph its not that expensive either. IMO its easy to keep up thus its easy to keep the 30% increase heal. Only works on class heals though which I dont find to be a problem.

IMO people need to stop talking about Nerfing DKs and im not even a DK.

Okay, the 30% though only works with Templar abilities, not with Resto abilites. I am not saying nerf it, I just do not get it why the buff does not apply to other group members so healers could get a good buff from DKs

Dracane

Seraphyel wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

Insane? That's NOT insane, that's the only tools DK healers have that makes them equal to other healers. They tend to be still weaker than NBs and Templars.

If you tame away the healing buff, DK healers can be tossed in the trash again.

It only lasts 7 seconds and it only applies to the DK so... it's totally fine.

I think it's indeed insane. I don't want to hijack this discussion, but Sorcerer has nothing for healing. And 30% plus heal is extremely strong.

Seraphyel

Alcast wrote: »

Seraphyel wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

Insane? That's NOT insane, that's the only tools DK healers have that makes them equal to other healers. They tend to be still weaker than NBs and Templars.

If you tame away the healing buff, DK healers can be tossed in the trash again.

It only lasts 7 seconds and it only applies to the DK so... it's totally fine.

It does work on groupmembers, check my video. DK Healer> NB healer LoL

No it doesn't. It just increases the healing done by the DK. For sure a DK heal on another target is increased, that's how it works.

Alcast wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

It is only 6 seconds, not permanent...

Recast every 6 sec so your partymembers get a shield to protect themself? I do not see a problem there. That is first thing I would do as a DK Healer.

Recast every 6 sec? Have fun doing that, you will run out of Magicka quicker than you can say "IT'S OVERPOWERED".

Alcast wrote: »

madangrypally wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If i remember right the Restoring Light got nerfed to 10%. BUt have to test again to be sure.

Restoring light did get nerfed to 10%, but Focused Healing is a different passive. Focused Healing increases healing done by 30% when standing in cleansing ritual, rune focus, and passage of light.

I like cleansing ritual as it has a nice large radius and last 12 seconds. With morph its not that expensive either. IMO its easy to keep up thus its easy to keep the 30% increase heal. Only works on class heals though which I dont find to be a problem.

IMO people need to stop talking about Nerfing DKs and im not even a DK.

Okay, the 30% though only works with Templar abilities, not with Resto abilites. I am not saying nerf it, I just do not get it why the buff does not apply to other group members so healers could get a good buff from DKs

Why it doesn't apply on other group members? Why should it? No reason to buff other healers even more. Look at those Templar healing passives, they are insane.

LtCrunch

Dracane wrote: »

Seraphyel wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

Insane? That's NOT insane, that's the only tools DK healers have that makes them equal to other healers. They tend to be still weaker than NBs and Templars.

If you tame away the healing buff, DK healers can be tossed in the trash again.

It only lasts 7 seconds and it only applies to the DK so... it's totally fine.

I think it's indeed insane. I don't want to hijack this discussion, but Sorcerer has nothing for healing. And 30% plus heal is extremely strong.

Sorcs need some healing love,but that means change/buff some abilities/passives for the Sorc, not nerf other classes effectiveness.

LtCrunch

Seraphyel wrote: »

Recast every 6 sec? Have fun doing that, you will run out of Magicka quicker than you can say "IT'S OVERPOWERED".

Have you even played on the PTS? It's actually extremely difficult to run OOM, you'd have to be really bad at resource management to let igneous shield run you OOM.

Dracane

Brandalf wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Seraphyel wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

Insane? That's NOT insane, that's the only tools DK healers have that makes them equal to other healers. They tend to be still weaker than NBs and Templars.

If you tame away the healing buff, DK healers can be tossed in the trash again.

It only lasts 7 seconds and it only applies to the DK so... it's totally fine.

I think it's indeed insane. I don't want to hijack this discussion, but Sorcerer has nothing for healing. And 30% plus heal is extremely strong.

Sorcs need some healing love,but that means change/buff some abilities/passives for the Sorc, not nerf other classes effectiveness.

Oh don't get me wrong. I wasn't asking for nerfs.
I've only said, that 30% more healing is very strong.

Alcast

Seraphyel wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Seraphyel wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

Insane? That's NOT insane, that's the only tools DK healers have that makes them equal to other healers. They tend to be still weaker than NBs and Templars.

If you tame away the healing buff, DK healers can be tossed in the trash again.

It only lasts 7 seconds and it only applies to the DK so... it's totally fine.

It does work on groupmembers, check my video. DK Healer> NB healer LoL

No it doesn't. It just increases the healing done by the DK. For sure a DK heal on another target is increased, that's how it works.

Alcast wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

It is only 6 seconds, not permanent...

Recast every 6 sec so your partymembers get a shield to protect themself? I do not see a problem there. That is first thing I would do as a DK Healer.

Recast every 6 sec? Have fun doing that, you will run out of Magicka quicker than you can say "IT'S OVERPOWERED".

Alcast wrote: »

madangrypally wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

If i remember right the Restoring Light got nerfed to 10%. BUt have to test again to be sure.

Restoring light did get nerfed to 10%, but Focused Healing is a different passive. Focused Healing increases healing done by 30% when standing in cleansing ritual, rune focus, and passage of light.

I like cleansing ritual as it has a nice large radius and last 12 seconds. With morph its not that expensive either. IMO its easy to keep up thus its easy to keep the 30% increase heal. Only works on class heals though which I dont find to be a problem.

IMO people need to stop talking about Nerfing DKs and im not even a DK.

Okay, the 30% though only works with Templar abilities, not with Resto abilites. I am not saying nerf it, I just do not get it why the buff does not apply to other group members so healers could get a good buff from DKs

Why it doesn't apply on other group members? Why should it? No reason to buff other healers even more. Look at those Templar healing passives, they are insane.

3x Glyph of reduced spellcost and your magicka will not drop below 80% ever.

ToRelax

A Templar whining about the one thing DK healers have going gor them? WTF?

As Templars are still the best healers you should be glad that other classes are that close, not ask for their buff to work on you as well so the gap will be larger again.

And yes, a healing passive or something for Sorc would be nice with the loss of the superior Surge weapon damage.

Digiman

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

IT DID. But DK screamed that they this ruined healing builds and wanted an option to make DK viable for healing roles.

Mean while the pure magicka ranged class Sorcerer has to sit back and suck the dregs they consider buffs that come with a healthy dose poisoning nerfs.

Quite frankly reading this is making me sick to my stomach. To think they neglected a class is one thing, but now it seems they actually hate sorcerers with a passion and will do anything to keep them at the bottom. This PTS is making so... so... tired. Really think they need to clean house with the guys developing sorcerers because this is an outright waste of resources and money.

It's not that hard to balance a ranged magicka class. Because the community on the PTS is doing all the work with calculations and suggestions I would hate to think what would become of a class is no Sorcerer's bothered with PTS testing, because the only thing that seems to get the core developers aware of the problems is with the backlash from the sorcerer community.

Now they are changing that on the forums enforcing tougher rules and regulations with severe penalties.

Dracane

Digiman wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

30% ? O.o That's insane. I thought, it got nerfed.

IT DID. But DK screamed that they this ruined healing builds and wanted an option to make DK viable for healing roles.

Mean while the pure magicka ranged class Sorcerer has to sit back and suck the dregs they consider buffs that come with a healthy dose poisoning nerfs.

Quite frankly reading this is making me sick to my stomach. To think they neglected a class is one thing, but now it seems they actually hate sorcerers with a passion and will do anything to keep them at the bottom. This PTS is making so... so... tired. Really think they need to clean house with the guys developing sorcerers because this is an outright waste of resources and money.

It's not that hard to balance a ranged magicka class. Because the community on the PTS is doing all the work with calculations and suggestions I would hate to think what would become of a class is no Sorcerer's bothered with PTS testing, because the only thing that seems to get the core developers aware of the problems is with the backlash from the sorcerer community.

Now they are changing that on the forums enforcing tougher rules and regulations with severe penalties.

Yep, so true I think, we're working so hard to inspire the developers, but they don't seem to care.
If the game stays as it is now, I'm not going to stay because it's nothing more than upsetting at the moment.
1.6.1 was cool, but then it just got worse and worse.

We'll see, if anything is going to change. But I'm not as optimistic as I used to be.

Nefrast

So with that how much more sustained healed hit points per second do Dragonknights get compared to other healers?

Alcast

Nefrast wrote: »

So with that how much more sustained healed hit points per second do Dragonknights get compared to other healers?

30% more >.>

This was tested with no passives etc.
Healing Springs:
Without Mending buff: Non crit 775, crit 1007 (All classes)
With Mending buff: Non crit 1162, crit 1510 (30% inc healing)

LtCrunch

Digiman wrote:

Mean while the pure magicka ranged class Sorcerer has to sit back and suck the dregs they consider buffs that come with a healthy dose poisoning nerfs.

Quite frankly reading this is making me sick to my stomach. To think they neglected a class is one thing, but now it seems they actually hate sorcerers with a passion and will do anything to keep them at the bottom. This PTS is making so... so... tired. Really think they need to clean house with the guys developing sorcerers because this is an outright waste of resources and money.

It's not that hard to balance a ranged magicka class. Because the community on the PTS is doing all the work with calculations and suggestions I would hate to think what would become of a class is no Sorcerer's bothered with PTS testing, because the only thing that seems to get the core developers aware of the problems is with the backlash from the sorcerer community.

Sorc's definitely need some love, but they're also not nearly as badly off as some on the PTS forums would have you believe. Sorcs in the TES universe aren't simply ranged casters and many people don't seem to understand that. A lot of requests for buffs/changes to the Sorcerer class would just limit the potential flexibility of the class as a whole and shoehorn people into ranged caster builds.

Sorc's needs more synergy with stam builds via morphs just like every other class and they need a spammable instant damage ability. They also need some kind of viable self-heal that is useful inside of combat. Outside of that Sorc's don't need a whole lot and I fear all the whining and complaining will lead to an overbuff.