PTS Patch Notes v1.6.3

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HyperToxic wrote: »

All magicka build classes (except sorc) have a single target ability that you can spam that deals more damage than force pulse. Sorcs are the only class (magicka build) that is forced on using destro abilities. I don't want to use it them anymore. I want an instant cast ability that hits as hard as the many abilities that other classes have.

Not true.

orxan.qayibovb16_ESO

RIP Overload lets fully destroyed all sorcs

Enodoc

Enodoc wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Alchemy water in Cyrodiil is now Veteran Rank 1. Additionally, water will scale to your level when sourced from (largely solo) instances that scale to your level.

If water is now VR1 in Cyrodiil, where am I supposed to get Level 40 (Filtered) water from? Cyrodiil was the only good source of Filtered Water.

On that note, please change the Pure Water nodes in southern Bangkorai, southern Rift, and eastern Reaper's March from Cleansed (Level 30) to Filtered (Level 40) Water nodes. (If there are some Lvl 40 solvent nodes already in these zones, I haven't found them.) These areas of these zones are Lvl 40-43, so the water should match this.

baratron

First, the positives. Thanks for introducing difficulty easing to solo instances! Now that it's no longer possible to overlevel and come back to them later, those of us who are terrible players or otherwise limited (e.g. due to physical disabilities) need the help.

Also, thanks for all of the restacking changes. Guild Banks everywhere will thank you for them, and I may no longer need to yell at everyone who puts Almandine or Crawlers into the bank .

Now for the Sorcerer comments:

Grao wrote: »

Sorcerers no longer get cost reduction on their most used class spells, including "Surge" that already costs 3 times more magicka than its similar "Entropy". I will test the numbers, but this feels like a nerf considering the most you can get from the new passive is 12% extra Spell Power and that is an unrealistic value considering all sorcerers need Inner Light on both their bars and Crushing Shock on the main attack bar.

My main character is a Magicka-based Sorcerer and I currently use Critical Surge and Inner Light on both of my bars. In 1.6, I'll be running Power Surge and Radiant Magelight instead, but I'll still need them on both bars. Since I know hardly any Sorcerers who run more than 3 Sorcerer abilities on their bars, this does feel like yet another attempt to persuade Sorcerers that we should be using "pets".

Drazhar14 wrote: »

Expert Mage: This passive ability has been changed. It now grants 2% Spell Power for each Sorcerer ability slotted instead of 10% reduced cost to lightning spells.

Please change this back. The new passive only hurts stamina builds. The Storm Calling line is the most used one for stamina builds, so the reduced spell cost really helped since stamina builds have limited magic. The spell power bonus is useless to us.

I agree. It seems odd that the developers are giving to Stamina Sorcerers with one hand:

Bound Armaments (morph): This ability now costs Stamina instead of Magicka, gives you a bonus to stamina instead of magicka, and increases the damage done by heavy attacks.

Dark Deal (morph): This ability now converts magicka into health and stamina.

Overload and Power Overload will now properly scale their damage off Weapon Damage and Stamina in the event that they are higher than Spell Power and Magicka.

Summon Storm Atronach: Fixed an issue where this ability was only scaling off your magicka stats, but not your stamina stats. It will now correctly pick the largest value.

and taking back with the other.

Nestor wrote: »

Doubled the Critical Strike and Spell Critical values for all item set bonuses.

So they increased this last patch, then doubled it for this patch. Does this mean that Criticals are now back to where they are in Live? Or better?

I don't know, and I want to know! I only managed to download 8% of the patch during my unlimited nighttime download period though.

chrisvoyerb16_ESO wrote: »

You do not understand. I do not want to start again from the beginning. I prefer not to play. I have built characters that I like and you do not want to copy them.
I am going to cancel my subscription. Do not update if you cannot copy characters.

Um, dude, you do realise that this is the PTS as in Public Test Server? It's not the real game. Everything you do here gets deleted anyway.

EnOeZ

Lionxoft wrote: »

Sypher wrote: »

The Unchained Nerf was very necessary.

It wasn't the right nerf though. It should have been modification of the cost reduction percentage but instead it is a duration change.

Since some folks think I'm a comedian I'll explain a bit further.

Instead of decreasing the duration of the effect which probably initiates at the beginning of the lengthy break free animation a subtraction of the cost reduction it provides would have sufficed better. There's not much you can do in 1.5s or 2s.

I would have rather seen the passive read 30% cost reduction on stamina abilities for 6 seconds. Something around that would have been a better nerf but with the buggy break free animation. The nerf we have been provided makes the 360 point passive kind of useless since it is dependant on an often bugged animation and requires abilities to be cast immediately after the break free which isn't always beneficial or appropriate.

• A sorc cc's you->you break->blinks away out of range. Unchained passive negated.
• A NB cc's you->you break->vanish (if it works LOLOL)-> Unchained passive negated.
• A DK uses petrify unbreakable chained cc rotation->Oh wait... can't break that stuff.->Unchained passive negated.

Just seems to me that there are better nerf options for this expensive passive. It's easily negated.

^Absolutely agree.

With 3s too easily negated, especially for ranged players.

Sacadon

Ryzium wrote: »

Mages Fury does 1391 dmg without the new passive for sorcs
Mages Fury does 1463 with the new passive

Explosion w/ 4495
Explosion w/o 4726

So my dps increase with 5 sorc abilities slotted (10% more spell power) is a little more than 5% where as my casts are reduced by 5%...

So to lay out my point. In a PvE boss fight where the dps's are spamming executes I will be doing less damage because the amount of times I can cast my ability is less than the spell power dps increase i get from the new passive.

In terms of PvE dps I would say this is a nerf. PvP wise it seems to be a burst damage buff

Here's hoping ZOS can explain where they truly helped sorcs vs. continued nerfs.

Pendrillion

Seems my NA Characterhas not been copied yet. Went straight to the intro movie. Ah well template chosen

jluchau

Pendrillion wrote: »

Seems my NA Characterhas not been copied yet. Went straight to the intro movie. Ah well template chosen

This patch the NA characters are not available, it's EU server's turn to have their characters. It's been switching off every other patch with the 1.6 stuff.

Pendrillion

Uhm No?

jluchau

Pendrillion wrote: »

Uhm No?

Uhm Yes...

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/152305/1-6-3-deleted-all-my-na-characters#latest

also...

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Hey guys! Just wanted to let you know that the European megaserver characters have been copied as of early this morning, and are currently available to play on the PTS with patch 1.6.3.

Medieval_Miss81

timidobserver wrote: »

Medieval_Miss81 wrote: »

Does the Burning Spellweave light armor set you get from City of Ash still have the change in 1.6 from spell crit to weapon crit? If so, please change it back to what it was before 1.6. Putting weapon crit on that set is ridiculous and wastes all the time and effort put into running that dungeon to try to get it to drop.

I wish little things like this could get some attention over all of the pages and pages of Sorc tears. There was no reason to put weapon crit on that set.

Could this please be addressed? @ZOS_GinaBruno‌
I would really like to know if I should even bother running City of Ash any more. The drop rate as it is makes this run somewhat frustrating, so if this set is going to be worthless now for casters, I'd like to know.

DeLindsay

Via testing done the Patch notes refference to Nirnhoned increase by 50% over Reinforced is wrong. Nothing changed whatsoever in the values. You can read the Bug report HERE.

Erock25

christoph.dessleb17_ESO wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Other nerfs that affect LA magicka dps sorcs greatly:

All shields are 15% weaker in cyrodiil AND can be crit on.

this information is based on what? after 10 minutes of testing on mobs I received not a single crit while having my shields on.

Mobs don't crit.

Septimus_Magna

christoph.dessleb17_ESO wrote: »

Morvul wrote: »

christoph.dessleb17_ESO wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Other nerfs that affect LA magicka dps sorcs greatly:

All shields are 15% weaker in cyrodiil AND can be crit on.

this information is based on what? after 10 minutes of testing on mobs I received not a single crit while having my shields on.

now test against mobs without your shield on: you won't recieve a single crit either, as mobs simply do not crit...

interesting because my combat cloud showed many crits without shield. to be sure I even doubled the font size of critical hits

The information is based on the patch notes and basis knowledge of pts and live mechanics. Mobs dont crit so your combat cloud might be buggy. Players do crit so that means with average crit of 30% they do 15% more damage on shields (without taking the now useless inpenetrable trait into consideration) plus shields are 15% weaker in cyrodiil, effectively reducing the survivability of LA users by another 30%, thats quite a lot if you ask me!

Snit

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

The information is based on the patch notes and basis knowledge of pts and live mechanics

I would not assume Absorb Shields can be crit based solely on the patch notes.

Crit Surge now works on Shields, but so does Siphoning Strikes, which does not rely on crits. It's quite possible that ZOS did something more sophisticated than simply enabling crits against shields. Moreover, it would be a big gap in the patch notes if shields could be crit, and they didn't mention it.

Rydik

Emm, Mountain blessing on second level still gives 3 ulti once in 6 seconds while main ulti generation active, they forget to actually nerf it? It's sign from heavens! Stop nerfs!

Gravord

Gief DK whip one of the morphs with stamina!

Ysne58

Volcanic Rune as changed does not always fire off when an enemy runs through it. More often than not it just disappears without doing anything as the enemy runs through it.

I liked it much better in pre 1.6 versions where you could start a battle off with an explosion that had aoe.

Also, regarding the Fighter's Guild shield spell (second ability), why does it no longer protect the caster? It only protects allies. This makes no sense to me.

NotSo

@ZOS_GinaBruno Hi, it seems like the update to the clannfear tooltip is not mentioned in the notes, as well as the overall reduced costs of sorcerer abilities.

glak

NotSo wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote:

Solo instance difficulty easing now begins after your first death. We have also increased the velocity of easing in response to repeated deaths.

Can we change the solo instance easing to ease up after the second death? That first one is there so I can wake up!

Valorin

Oh, don't whine.

Valorin

Dear Zenimax, what the game really, really needs is a big nerf on whining. Cutting whining down by, let's say 30%, would be a good value to begin with.

killedbyping

Alot of set bonuses still look scaled very badly or unintentionaly ruined :

Domion's/Pact's etc set which currently give 10% weapon crit :
Now provide regular crit bonus like any other regular set + 146 hp.... 146 HP ? you gotta be kidding me While other setns and enchants give 1k HP
Soul shine and Burning Spellweave sets give redicilously low spell damage at 5th item set bonus compared to regular spell damage bonus (specialy if you take into account tha this bonus just proc sometimes, it is not present all the time).
Burning Spellweave still give weapon crit instead of spell crit for some cruel mistake. This change wasnt even stated in patch notes and obviusly make no sense at all. It ive spell crit on live and should give same on PTS
Dominion's Jewelry which currently provide 10% spell crit, still give regular spell crit bonus. Second bonus added to this set which provide spell power give 2.5-3 times less spell power compared to any other regular set bonus to spell power.

Crafted gear provide 2 points more of spell power at vr14 with legendary qualty compared with looted gear for some reason. Even in comparison to SO loot.

FearlessOne_2014

Just did a full SP respec on my VR14 sorcerer which as of now is the only real toon on my account after reading the patch notes and see even farther nerfs to sorcs, and is going to turn it into a alt that is just for max crafting, and then reroll a another class other then sorcerer. It's adapt or die time right, so I choose to adapt to the sorc just being a class filler in this game and then over come with a new class that has ZOS support behind it, simple as that. I already have many friends who are sorcs or have a sorc alt who are doing the same or quitting the game. Sad to see a class that I loved in some many other games come to this in this game, but it is what is is. I also just change factions because I really hate AD the faction where everybody wants to lead and nobody wants to follow and have ADD for the most part. I am joining EP, I am a really serious PvP player and and is looking for a serious EP pvp guild my toon name is Majestic Devastator. That's all the ranting I am going to do for the day and hopefully for a long time.

Ageless

I ran into an unbeatable Heritance Cutthroat in the Auri-El temple in Vulkhel Guard. Fireballs, lightning, Timmy my pet Clannfear, nothing could dent his health. He had to kill me first, I had to respawn there, and let the Battlereeve whats-his-name cull him a bit, before I could dent and kill him. Level 8 vs level 4.


I also had two bookshelves on board of the boat you start on (the Prowler?) in the Aldmeri dominion, that I could steal from. Well, couldn't steal from either, but the words were there. These later vanished by themselves.

MorHawk

Can we get an opt out on the scaling? Kinda concerning that it kicks in straight away. My usual strategy with bosses is to charge in completely unprepared (I never think to check my bars, for I am a dope), see what he does, then adjust accordingly. I don't want a difficulty adjust before I've even tried.

Ageless

Having just done the Enchanting crafting writ, I noticed that the lesson to deconstruct the glyph you just made is no longer done. Is this correct? It was nice to learn both constructing and deconstructing.

Ageless

Ageless wrote: »

However, now we're having a tad too much natural water. I have 56 of those already. Aside from the one bottle in my prison, they all come in packs of 5 bottles per container.

I ended up walking out of the Wailing Prison with 86 bottles of Natural Water.
And even now in the world, it's still coming in packs of 5 or 7. This can easily be less.

Ageless

More crafting problems.
After having finished the Alchemy/Cooking/Magicka writs, I now only have the option on the billboard to do those writs.
I no longer have the option in my Journal or from the Carpentry/Clothing/Smithing billboard to learn about the other writs. No arrow either to what's her name who does these writs.

Ageless

Found her, but as you can see, you now have to stumble over her: