Multiple horses of the same type

rotaugen454

Actually, ZOS had said the faster horses would count, so if you max fed speed to one, you start off 10 ahead of other horses. So you just saved 10 riding skill upgrades.

Divinius

Slurg wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

I'm not quitting the game, I am having items taken away from me without my permission. In game gold represents time, if you can't see the value of time...

Nothing is getting "taken away" from you. You'll still have access to everything you had before, and more. You aren't losing anything, and are therefore not entitled to compensation.

What is happening is that others are gaining access to things they did not have before, for free, and you are simply annoyed that you paid for things that are now being given to others for free.

Big difference there.

To be fair I can see how some people would see this as a loss. Let's say theoretically that person A (maybe this is Kelly's situation) likes black horses and chooses to drop 42k 8 times so all of her characters can ride a black horse. Let's say person B (Slurg) likes black horses too but is cheap and prefers to hoard her gold instead so she buys cheap horses for all of her characters. The 1.6 announcement comes out and Slurg says woo-hoo, now I can buy one black horse and all my characters can ride it and I get to keep all that gold I hoarded! But it would be a fair reaction for Kelly or anyone else in that situation to be disappointed they spent all that money when they didn't really need to in the long run. Yes people who bought the extra horses get the benefit of having used those horses over the past 10 months or however long, and they will get the riding stats transferred to each character, but a couple months from now with daily training we'll all have the same riding stats but people who didn't buy multiples of the premium horses will have spent a lot less gold.

Oh, I'm not saying people like Kelly shouldn't be annoyed. I can agree, it's annoying. It annoys me when I buy a new TV for $1000 and two months later it's on sale for $200. It's depressing and frustrating.

I'm just saying that people like that are not entitled to any compensation. Best Buy isn't going to give my my $800 back two months later because the TV I bought dropped in price.

It's perfectly reasonable to be annoyed. It is NOT reasonable to expect compensation for it.

Merlin13KAGL

Divinius wrote: »

Slurg wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

I'm not quitting the game, I am having items taken away from me without my permission. In game gold represents time, if you can't see the value of time...

Nothing is getting "taken away" from you. You'll still have access to everything you had before, and more. You aren't losing anything, and are therefore not entitled to compensation.

What is happening is that others are gaining access to things they did not have before, for free, and you are simply annoyed that you paid for things that are now being given to others for free.

Big difference there.

To be fair I can see how some people would see this as a loss. Let's say theoretically that person A (maybe this is Kelly's situation) likes black horses and chooses to drop 42k 8 times so all of her characters can ride a black horse. Let's say person B (Slurg) likes black horses too but is cheap and prefers to hoard her gold instead so she buys cheap horses for all of her characters. The 1.6 announcement comes out and Slurg says woo-hoo, now I can buy one black horse and all my characters can ride it and I get to keep all that gold I hoarded! But it would be a fair reaction for Kelly or anyone else in that situation to be disappointed they spent all that money when they didn't really need to in the long run. Yes people who bought the extra horses get the benefit of having used those horses over the past 10 months or however long, and they will get the riding stats transferred to each character, but a couple months from now with daily training we'll all have the same riding stats but people who didn't buy multiples of the premium horses will have spent a lot less gold.

Oh, I'm not saying people like Kelly shouldn't be annoyed. I can agree, it's annoying. It annoys me when I buy a new TV for $1000 and two months later it's on sale for $200. It's depressing and frustrating.

I'm just saying that people like that are not entitled to any compensation. Best Buy isn't going to give my my $800 back two months later because the TV I bought dropped in price.

It's perfectly reasonable to be annoyed. It is NOT reasonable to expect compensation for it.

@Divinius , the part people are missing is that now their TV also washes their clothes and keeps their food refrigerated... The functionality of the end product(s) remains the same. In fact, it goes up.

Divinius

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

@Divinius , the part people are missing is that now their TV also washes their clothes and keeps their food refrigerated... The functionality of the end product(s) remains the same. In fact, it goes up.

There is that, too. I am so happy about the ability to have max speed, stamina, and inventory spaces all on one horse, in addition to being able to choose a horse color independent of it's function, that I can very quickly forget about the 128k gold I spent over the last year on my 3 now-redundant horses.

The whole mount system is significantly better now, and I can easily forgive the drop in price for the added functionality.

Slurg

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

Slurg wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

I'm not quitting the game, I am having items taken away from me without my permission. In game gold represents time, if you can't see the value of time...

Nothing is getting "taken away" from you. You'll still have access to everything you had before, and more. You aren't losing anything, and are therefore not entitled to compensation.

What is happening is that others are gaining access to things they did not have before, for free, and you are simply annoyed that you paid for things that are now being given to others for free.

Big difference there.

To be fair I can see how some people would see this as a loss. Let's say theoretically that person A (maybe this is Kelly's situation) likes black horses and chooses to drop 42k 8 times so all of her characters can ride a black horse. Let's say person B (Slurg) likes black horses too but is cheap and prefers to hoard her gold instead so she buys cheap horses for all of her characters. The 1.6 announcement comes out and Slurg says woo-hoo, now I can buy one black horse and all my characters can ride it and I get to keep all that gold I hoarded! But it would be a fair reaction for Kelly or anyone else in that situation to be disappointed they spent all that money when they didn't really need to in the long run. Yes people who bought the extra horses get the benefit of having used those horses over the past 10 months or however long, and they will get the riding stats transferred to each character, but a couple months from now with daily training we'll all have the same riding stats but people who didn't buy multiples of the premium horses will have spent a lot less gold.

Oh, I'm not saying people like Kelly shouldn't be annoyed. I can agree, it's annoying. It annoys me when I buy a new TV for $1000 and two months later it's on sale for $200. It's depressing and frustrating.

I'm just saying that people like that are not entitled to any compensation. Best Buy isn't going to give my my $800 back two months later because the TV I bought dropped in price.

It's perfectly reasonable to be annoyed. It is NOT reasonable to expect compensation for it.

@Divinius , the part people are missing is that now their TV also washes their clothes and keeps their food refrigerated... The functionality of the end product(s) remains the same. In fact, it goes up.

I like the new mount system a lot too since each character will be able to have the same stats across all mounts, but I don't want to be dismissive of people who don't feel the same way about it. They may very well understand it but just not like how it's being implemented. Telling them ' too bad it's better ' doesn't really help them.

I doubt that any compensation will be coming for previous purchase of extra mounts, but if people genuinely feel that they're suffering some kind of loss due to this transition I see no harm in them registering their complaints and asking for it.

I think an important piece that is missing in this thread (discussed at length in a different thread) is that many of the people registering complaints about the new system were not maxing each of their horses in one aspect (speed, capacity, stamina) but instead were choosing horses based on appearance and making hybrids by feeding them different things. Those cross-mount feedings will not add across mounts (only highest value will transfer) so perhaps a possible solution would be to allow values across mounts to add. That might help some of them feel better compensated at least.

Reco

I levelled up one lvl 50 speed horse for EACH of my chars. I spent hundreds of thousands of gold on buying and feeding them. When the horses are merged into one, I should get refund for the money spent on purchasing and feeding the horses (except 1).

Anything else is unfair and discourages me from continuing to play the game.

Players who didn't invest in horses like I did now have unfair advantage over me (they have hundreds of thousands more gold than me).

rotaugen454

I think it is CHARACTER specific on stats, so you benefit from leveling one for each character. The SKINS are account.

Djeriko

I haven't played on the PTS and I'm curious about how the riding skills work.

Hypothetically lets say I have a character that has three horses, one maxed speed, one maxed stamina, and one maxed capacity.

When 1.6 comes out, will that character have maxed all three riding skills?

Xupacabra

Also have a question. I have a character with 3 horses max on the 3 diferent stats. And iam leveling another character. Will be shared my maximize horse with this new character or i have to build 3 horses diferent stats on him too?

Divinius

It seems that many of the people in this thread do not understand how the new mount system works.

The new "Riding Skills" are character-specific. For each character on your account, the game will look at all the horses that that character owns, and take the highest of each stat (stamina, speed, inventory) it finds across all the horses (on that character only) and apply them all to that character's Riding Skills.

Again, these skills are specific to each character on the account. Here's an example:

You have Character "A" on your account with 2 horses, both are the 1 gold Imperial horses. One is level 50 maxed inventory, and the other is level 40 all in speed. Character "B" has only one horse, the Light horse, level 50, maxed speed.

After the update, Character A's Riding Skills will be at 50 inventory, 40 speed, and 0 stamina. Character B's Riding Skills will be at 60 speed, 0 inventory, and 0 stamina.

BOTH characters will be able to choose either the Imperial horse or the Light horse as their mount's "skin".

Rosveen

These horses weren't worthless before. You used them for 11 months and that is what you paid for.
These horses aren't worthless now. They directly translate to your riding skill. If you hadn't bought them, you'd have a very long way to maxing out your riding after March 17th.

If you want a refund, you might as well demand a refund for the subscription you paid since April because the game is free now, so it's only fair. If you started playing now, you wouldn't have to pay a dime, so it's only fair. Right?

Divinius

To answer your questions specifically:

Djeriko wrote: »

I haven't played on the PTS and I'm curious about how the riding skills work.

Hypothetically lets say I have a character that has three horses, one maxed speed, one maxed stamina, and one maxed capacity.

When 1.6 comes out, will that character have maxed all three riding skills?

Yes. That character will have max speed, stamina, and capacity, all at the same time on whatever mount skin he chooses (which is why this update is awesome).

Xupacabra wrote: »

Also have a question. I have a character with 3 horses max on the 3 diferent stats. And iam leveling another character. Will be shared my maximize horse with this new character or i have to build 3 horses diferent stats on him too?

The new character will have access to use a mount, and be able to choose the appearance ("skin") of any horse that the original character has, but will not have any of the upgraded stats until he trains up his own riding skills himself.

bowmanz607

no i just think at this point the thread has run its course. now everyone is just repeating themselves and it has become an agree to disagree type of thing.

Djeriko

Thanks a lot for the info and replies. Looking forward to the update.

Wreuntzylla

rotaugen454 wrote: »

So someone who bought a computer for $3000 and used it for a year should be able to go back to the store and demand a refund when someone can come in and buy the same computer for $1500 now? People who bought all these horses used them. Now that it will be cheaper, it doesn't mean you are owed a refund.

Your analogy misses the point. ZoS wasn't selling a piece of equipment that depreciates over time. ZoS was selling a character upgrade. In this case, increased riding stat caps - increased character speed, bag space or ability to stay horsed compared to other horse models.

People buy character upgrades in MMOs with the expectation that the upgrade will be there forever. The game might add further upgrades, and even bundle upgrades, but the original upgrade will still be there. For example, players expect that a character upgrade that increases the amount of bank space available for purchase is permanent. Similarly, people expect that if they buy a horse that has an increased amount of purchasable bag space as compared to a base horse, those additional bag spaces will always be available for purchase.

In contrast, ZoS is simply removing the existing upgrade system altogether. Everyone will have the same riding stat cap. The people who heavily invested to have additional bag space will not have it. The "additional" part they paid for is gone. Everyone will have the same amount.

Further, everyone who only bought a base model horse was able to use that money somewhere else. They had the benefit of spending it on something they won't lose in 1.6 (e.g., increasing bank space).

So, here is a more accurate version of your analogy. Person A works for 4 extra hours a day for two months to buy a computer that over another two months will become 10% faster then the computer Person B bought. Person B's computer will be the same speed for a most of that time, but one day it will stop getting faster while Person A's computer keeps getting faster. However, because Person B's computer was cheaper, he used the money he saved to expand his living room. One day, the government decides that nobody should have a speed advantage. So, they send someone to destroy your computer and hand you a different computer. They also destroy Comrade B's computer, and give him an identical computer to the one they gave you. Now Comrade A and Comrade B have the same computer, but Person B still has a bigger living room. Comrade B makes fun of Comrade A, because Comrade A complains that he doesn't have a bigger living room.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

So, here is a more accurate version of your analogy. Person A works for 4 extra hours a day for two months to buy a computer that over another two months will become 10% faster then the computer Person B bought. Person B's computer will be the same speed for a most of that time, but one day it will stop getting faster while Person A's computer keeps getting faster. However, because Person B's computer was cheaper, he used the money he saved to expand his living room. One day, the government decides that nobody should have a speed advantage. So, they send someone to destroy your computer and hand you a different computer. They also destroy Comrade B's computer, and give him an identical computer to the one they gave you. Now Comrade A and Comrade B have the same computer, but Person B still has a bigger living room. Comrade B makes fun of Comrade A, because Comrade A complains that he doesn't have a bigger living room.

^ This. As simple as you made it however there will still be some people who just don't get it.

Divinius

I have 4 main characters I play. I have so far purchased 3 Draft horses, and 2 Light horses across those characters (at 42,700 gold each), and fully upgraded all of them.

This update will render 3 of those 5 purchases worthless. That's 128,100 gold that I didn't need to spend at all. And the other two are only marginally useful, as the remaining 85,400 gold basically only bought me two skins. That's 213,500 gold that I could have (and would have) spent on something else, had I known this update was coming.

So yes, I get why it's a bit frustrating, and I understand why some people are slightly irked. I would never make fun of someone for being annoyed by this.

However, unlike some of those people, I actually realize that changes like this in MMOs are inevitable, and I can accept it. I'm not going to go on a forum and cry about compensation, and I'm not going to let it ruin my whole gaming experience. Gold in this game is virtually worthless outside of inventory upgrades anyway.

It's especially easy in this case to let it go, given that the new system is infinitely better than the old one, for several reasons. And once again, to reference the computer example above, sure, both computers are being destroyed, but they are being replaced by a system that is effectively 3 computers in one, and ultimately significantly more powerful.

Accept it, and move on. You'll be healthier for it.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

Divinius wrote: »

I have 4 main characters I play. I have so far purchased 3 Draft horses, and 2 Light horses across those characters (at 42,700 gold each), and fully upgraded all of them.

This update will render 3 of those 5 purchases worthless. That's 128,100 gold that I didn't need to spend at all. And the other two are only marginally useful, as the remaining 85,400 gold basically only bought me two skins. That's 213,500 gold that I could have (and would have) spent on something else, had I known this update was coming.

So yes, I get why it's a bit frustrating, and I understand why some people are slightly irked. I would never make fun of someone for being annoyed by this.

However, unlike some of those people, I actually realize that changes like this in MMOs are inevitable, and I can accept it. I'm not going to go on a forum and cry about compensation, and I'm not going to let it ruin my whole gaming experience. Gold in this game is virtually worthless outside of inventory upgrades anyway.

It's especially easy in this case to let it go, given that the new system is infinitely better than the old one, for several reasons. And once again, to reference the computer example above, sure, both computers are being destroyed, but they are being replaced by a system that is effectively 3 computers in one, and ultimately significantly more powerful.

Accept it, and move on. You'll be healthier for it.

Just because you don't mind being robbed doesn't mean it's right and others should not demand justice.

MorHawk

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

Just because you don't mind being robbed doesn't mean it's right and others should not demand justice.

Justice. Oy. You are not being robbed. You are getting benefits from each of the horses you bought. You're just mad because it's discovered that those who are carting cheapos around get the same as you. It happens sometimes. Get over yourself, and recognize that 'compensation' over this is simply not going to happen. Quit wasting your breath.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

MorHawk wrote: »

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

Just because you don't mind being robbed doesn't mean it's right and others should not demand justice.

Justice. Oy. You are not being robbed. You are getting benefits from each of the horses you bought. You're just mad because it's discovered that those who are carting cheapos around get the same as you. It happens sometimes. Get over yourself, and recognize that 'compensation' over this is simply not going to happen. Quit wasting your breath.

I am indeed being robbed of my time.

Merlin13KAGL

Divinius wrote: »

I have 4 main characters I play. I have so far purchased 3 Draft horses, and 2 Light horses across those characters (at 42,700 gold each), and fully upgraded all of them.

This update will render 3 of those 5 purchases worthless. That's 128,100 gold that I didn't need to spend at all. And the other two are only marginally useful, as the remaining 85,400 gold basically only bought me two skins. That's 213,500 gold that I could have (and would have) spent on something else, had I known this update was coming.

@Divinius , uh, no, it won't. Please refer to this helpful reply:

Divinius wrote: »

To answer your questions specifically:

Djeriko wrote: »

I haven't played on the PTS and I'm curious about how the riding skills work.

Hypothetically lets say I have a character that has three horses, one maxed speed, one maxed stamina, and one maxed capacity.

When 1.6 comes out, will that character have maxed all three riding skills?

Yes. That character will have max speed, stamina, and capacity, all at the same time on whatever mount skin he chooses (which is why this update is awesome).

Xupacabra wrote: »

Also have a question. I have a character with 3 horses max on the 3 diferent stats. And iam leveling another character. Will be shared my maximize horse with this new character or i have to build 3 horses diferent stats on him too?

The new character will have access to use a mount, and be able to choose the appearance ("skin") of any horse that the original character has, but will not have any of the upgraded stats until he trains up his own riding skills himself.

You paid for horses with a certain functionality for a particular character.

You will have that same functionality (regarding the feedings, anyway) on the same character in 1.6.

You have lost, at most, the base stat addition a horse had. Everyone else lost this as well, so it's not uneven.

MorHawk wrote: »

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

Just because you don't mind being robbed doesn't mean it's right and others should not demand justice.

Justice. Oy. You are not being robbed. You are getting benefits from each of the horses you bought. You're just mad because it's discovered that those who are carting cheapos around get the same as you. It happens sometimes. Get over yourself, and recognize that 'compensation' over this is simply not going to happen. Quit wasting your breath.

@MorHawk , I shudder to think of the difficulty that will rear its head with the other changes when this one continues to elude so many.

I've attempted to explain this in multiple threads, in multiple ways. It's like getting angry when you buy a station wagon and they upgrade you to a Corvette for the same price...

Starting to feel like I'm beating a dead...

Oh, never mind.

bowmanz607

the horses i purchased dont matter anyway. they were a waste of money regardless of the new system cause im going to use the mount from the last loyalty reward on march 17

Divinius

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

I have 4 main characters I play. I have so far purchased 3 Draft horses, and 2 Light horses across those characters (at 42,700 gold each), and fully upgraded all of them.

This update will render 3 of those 5 purchases worthless. That's 128,100 gold that I didn't need to spend at all. And the other two are only marginally useful, as the remaining 85,400 gold basically only bought me two skins. That's 213,500 gold that I could have (and would have) spent on something else, had I known this update was coming.

@Divinius , uh, no, it won't. Please refer to this helpful reply:

Divinius wrote: »

To answer your questions specifically:

Djeriko wrote: »

I haven't played on the PTS and I'm curious about how the riding skills work.

Hypothetically lets say I have a character that has three horses, one maxed speed, one maxed stamina, and one maxed capacity.

When 1.6 comes out, will that character have maxed all three riding skills?

Yes. That character will have max speed, stamina, and capacity, all at the same time on whatever mount skin he chooses (which is why this update is awesome).

Xupacabra wrote: »

Also have a question. I have a character with 3 horses max on the 3 diferent stats. And iam leveling another character. Will be shared my maximize horse with this new character or i have to build 3 horses diferent stats on him too?

The new character will have access to use a mount, and be able to choose the appearance ("skin") of any horse that the original character has, but will not have any of the upgraded stats until he trains up his own riding skills himself.

You paid for horses with a certain functionality for a particular character.

You will have that same functionality (regarding the feedings, anyway) on the same character in 1.6.

You have lost, at most, the base stat addition a horse had. Everyone else lost this as well, so it's not uneven.

I'm aware of how the horses work. You may not have noticed, but the "helpful reply" you quoted was also mine.

I know I didn't waste the money I spent upgrading the horses. But I have the Imperial Edition. I could have upgraded 1G horses instead, and while I would have been limited to a max of 50 capacity (instead of the 60 the Draft horses gave me), it would have saved the 42,700 gold cost of the base horse. This is actually exactly what I am currently doing for my 4th character (who had no horses) in preparation for the update.

It remains to be seen if the extra 10 stat points from the advanced base horses actually will carry over. The initial blurb from the devs regarding the system indicated that it should, but that's not how it worked as of the 1.6.0 update. I didn't get to test 1.6.2, and they aren't going to copy the NA characters over for 1.6.4, so I still don't know if it works. I'm assuming that by the time 1.6.x goes live, it will work as intended.

If so, then yes, that 42,700 gold wasn't entirely wasted. It will get me 10 extra stat points that I would have had to pay 2500 gold for, over the course of 10 days, to get if I had waited until after the update.

I'm on your side here. I've been the one arguing that no one is "losing" anything. I'm just saying that, yes, I paid 200k for things that will be essentially given out for free after the update. As I also said, I don't mind, because the update is giving us so much of a benefit that I can quickly forget about the "wasted" 200k.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Divinius wrote: »

I have 4 main characters I play. I have so far purchased 3 Draft horses, and 2 Light horses across those characters (at 42,700 gold each), and fully upgraded all of them.

This update will render 3 of those 5 purchases worthless. That's 128,100 gold that I didn't need to spend at all. And the other two are only marginally useful, as the remaining 85,400 gold basically only bought me two skins. That's 213,500 gold that I could have (and would have) spent on something else, had I known this update was coming.

@Divinius , uh, no, it won't. Please refer to this helpful reply:

Divinius wrote: »

To answer your questions specifically:

Djeriko wrote: »

I haven't played on the PTS and I'm curious about how the riding skills work.

Hypothetically lets say I have a character that has three horses, one maxed speed, one maxed stamina, and one maxed capacity.

When 1.6 comes out, will that character have maxed all three riding skills?

Yes. That character will have max speed, stamina, and capacity, all at the same time on whatever mount skin he chooses (which is why this update is awesome).

Xupacabra wrote: »

Also have a question. I have a character with 3 horses max on the 3 diferent stats. And iam leveling another character. Will be shared my maximize horse with this new character or i have to build 3 horses diferent stats on him too?

The new character will have access to use a mount, and be able to choose the appearance ("skin") of any horse that the original character has, but will not have any of the upgraded stats until he trains up his own riding skills himself.

You paid for horses with a certain functionality for a particular character.

You will have that same functionality (regarding the feedings, anyway) on the same character in 1.6.

You have lost, at most, the base stat addition a horse had. Everyone else lost this as well, so it's not uneven.

MorHawk wrote: »

kelly.medleyb14_ESO wrote: »

Just because you don't mind being robbed doesn't mean it's right and others should not demand justice.

Justice. Oy. You are not being robbed. You are getting benefits from each of the horses you bought. You're just mad because it's discovered that those who are carting cheapos around get the same as you. It happens sometimes. Get over yourself, and recognize that 'compensation' over this is simply not going to happen. Quit wasting your breath.

@MorHawk , I shudder to think of the difficulty that will rear its head with the other changes when this one continues to elude so many.

I've attempted to explain this in multiple threads, in multiple ways. It's like getting angry when you buy a station wagon and they upgrade you to a Corvette for the same price...

Starting to feel like I'm beating a dead...

Oh, never mind.

Just because you view your time as worthless doesn't mean we all do. Duplicate horses will become redundant meaning a new player will spend 42k for one black horse that I spent 336k. Same goes for all my spotted and brown horses.

This is well over 1 million gold that I invested that a new person doesn't and they will still get the same 3 computers.

Slurg

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

I've attempted to explain this in multiple threads, in multiple ways. It's like getting angry when you buy a station wagon and they upgrade you to a Corvette for the same price...

Starting to feel like I'm beating a dead...

Oh, never mind.

I'm pretty sure from what I've read the angry people see it more like this:
They bought 8 station wagons and I bought one, and then I bought a cabin on the lake with my leftover money. Now we're trading in all of our cars and getting one shiny new Corvette each, but I still have my cabin on the lake to drive to and they don't have one because they spent all their money on station wagons.

I don't think you're going to convince them to not be angry just because the Corvette is awesome.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

Slurg wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

I've attempted to explain this in multiple threads, in multiple ways. It's like getting angry when you buy a station wagon and they upgrade you to a Corvette for the same price...

Starting to feel like I'm beating a dead...

Oh, never mind.

I'm pretty sure from what I've read the angry people see it more like this:
They bought 8 station wagons and I bought one, and then I bought a cabin on the lake with my leftover money. Now we're trading in all of our cars and getting one shiny new Corvette each, but I still have my cabin on the lake to drive to and they don't have one because they spent all their money on station wagons.

I don't think you're going to convince them to not be angry just because the Corvette is awesome.

Bingo. So @ZOS_GinaBruno can I please get my million gold back? I think the ones above who stated they don't mind being robbed by you guys should not get it but those of us who do, should.

bowmanz607

i think it is funny that people say they are getting robbed when everyone i know who plays went out and bought even more horses so that they could max out their stats before update 1.6 goes live.

kelly.medleyb14_ESO

bowmanz607 wrote: »

i think it is funny that people say they are getting robbed when everyone i know who plays went out and bought even more horses so that they could max out their stats before update 1.6 goes live.

The stats aren't the issue, its the duplicate horses. Your friends will obviously buy one of each kind of horse and level them from there thus losing nothing.

Apples and Oranges.

bowmanz607

o i'm not contending that. just an observation. i keep seeing the same two arguments back and forth but presented in different ways so figured i would throw a little something into the mix Im bored

bowmanz607

it is all fruit though