Standard of Might - Nerfed

Asgari

WRX wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

Ult gain seems pretty fast anyways. Maybe faster than before.

I have to assume you were a stam nightblade then?

I hardly used banner anyways lol

Oh that's a mistake lol.. Banner OP. But with the new major/minor healing debuffs one meatbag is a much more logical choice.

Bats can't be negated and takes heals away from me and to those who actually need it.

WRX

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

Ult gain seems pretty fast anyways. Maybe faster than before.

I have to assume you were a stam nightblade then?

I hardly used banner anyways lol

Oh that's a mistake lol.. Banner OP. But with the new major/minor healing debuffs one meatbag is a much more logical choice.

Bats can't be negated and takes heals away from me and to those who actually need it.

No one negates behind them haha.. Push through, negate, standard, dead reds.

Asgari

WRX wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

WRX wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

Ult gain seems pretty fast anyways. Maybe faster than before.

I have to assume you were a stam nightblade then?

I hardly used banner anyways lol

Oh that's a mistake lol.. Banner OP. But with the new major/minor healing debuffs one meatbag is a much more logical choice.

Bats can't be negated and takes heals away from me and to those who actually need it.

No one negates behind them haha.. Push through, negate, standard, dead reds.

I've dropped plenty of banners behind the negate spams, but now walls only allows 1 at a time so back to full time turtle and bats.

NovaShadow

I read all the class changed. I see no DK nurfs. I see no real DK changed. Why you're crying about the standard's ult increase I do not know. It will still be spammed.

Asgari

NovaShadow wrote: »

I read all the class changed. I see no DK nurfs. I see no real DK changed. Why you're crying about the standard's ult increase I do not know. It will still be spammed.

You are what those b2p nerds are gunna sounds like ...

k2blader

Game needs fewer DKs so anyone who feels the class is "dead" just switch to the new FotM.

Lava_Croft

Rylana wrote: »

RedTalon wrote: »

Welcome to the nightblade class

oh thats mature. there was never anything wrong with nightblades to begin with.

Let's ignore the fact that several Nightblade class skills still aren't working correctly.

Teargrants

Pft, the real nerf was when they removed the 'press E to talk' to standards.

cazlonb16_ESO

k2blader wrote: »

Game needs fewer DKs so anyone who feels the class is "dead" just switch to the new FotM.

As far as classes go, my first impression is that DKs got the best deal ( again ) and Bat Swarm even got better relative to other ultis.

So unless I'm missing something big, which is entirely possible at this stage of course, we'll actually see even more Vamp DKs. Just with somewhat different builds than before.

DisgracefulMind

Teargrants wrote: »

Pft, the real nerf was when they removed the 'press E to talk' to standards.

I miss my standard telling people dirty secrets. ):

LonePirate

TheBull wrote: »

Ult gain seems pretty fast anyways. Maybe faster than before.

I don't agree with this as building Ultimate is taking longer for me, even after accounting for the 25% increase in the skill's cost. Before 1.6, Talons and Fire Ring on a 5 pack of VR11 Welwa in Craglorn would build Ultimate in no time. Now, it is much more slower as I need three different five packs of Welwa to build it from 0 to charged when I could previously build it with one and sometimes two packs of them.

Columba

Don't worry. DK's will still be god mode.

NovaShadow

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

I read all the class changed. I see no DK nurfs. I see no real DK changed. Why you're crying about the standard's ult increase I do not know. It will still be spammed.

You are what those b2p nerds are gunna sounds like ...

How so? Because I've played a DK and know exactly how god like they are now. And having read the patch notes I see no difference to them what so ever. They will still be god like.

This change to the ult cost won't affect DK's in anyway.

Asgari

NovaShadow wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

I read all the class changed. I see no DK nurfs. I see no real DK changed. Why you're crying about the standard's ult increase I do not know. It will still be spammed.

You are what those b2p nerds are gunna sounds like ...

How so? Because I've played a DK and know exactly how god like they are now. And having read the patch notes I see no difference to them what so ever. They will still be god like.

This change to the ult cost won't affect DK's in anyway.

Whatever you say B2P Lord.

Galalin

#TheBetaBlackAlliance

For the eradication of the b2p nerds

AbraXuSeXile

Lets make an evil word for b2p scrubs

sarttsarttsarttub17_ESO

Rylana wrote: »

It is now the highest cost ult in the game (except wolves, but whatever thats not a class ult)
It had its synergy reduced to the point of only people literally in the middle of it could be affected/push X

-.- You know cause its not like people couldnt just roll out of it already, or just not stand in it, it didnt exactly move or anything.

DK confirmed for dead class. We shall all be stealth nightblade bads now.

[Moderator Note: Edited Inappropriate Title]

please, go away. Actually the standard should be able to be targeted and destroyed.

Kas

was nova's cost lowered? 250 is a dream

ToRelax

NovaShadow wrote: »

Princess_Asgari wrote: »

NovaShadow wrote: »

I read all the class changed. I see no DK nurfs. I see no real DK changed. Why you're crying about the standard's ult increase I do not know. It will still be spammed.

You are what those b2p nerds are gunna sounds like ...

How so? Because I've played a DK and know exactly how god like they are now. And having read the patch notes I see no difference to them what so ever. They will still be god like.

This change to the ult cost won't affect DK's in anyway.

If you think that change won't effect DK at all... then I understand how cou can think all the other DKs are god like. Maybe a little cocky attitude thinking the same about yourself, but it's all relative, after all.

Armitas

With the exception of those using double tap for dodge, my banner is immediately evacuated giving me nothing but a 20% damage reduction in pvp for a melee build or immediately negated entirely. Chasing people down using shifting standard seems like a dps loss as the tick is not that powerful alone, it's the damage stacking that makes it powerful in damage.

I'd really like to see the damage increase and reduction stay on the caster in or out of the banner for the added ultimate cost.

With the -10% fire damage reduction to vampire I really have to ask myself why would I not go vamp at this point? I really don't want to be a vampire, but I also really can't justify not being one right now.

KBKB

DKs crying about getting nerfs oh how I love it!

Mauz

AbraXuSeXile wrote: »

Lets make an evil word for b2p scrubs

Did I miss a way not to b2p? You still need to buy the game.

Lhorion

All discussions about how huge a buff/nerf is does not make really sense. Why? Because we all don't know how 1.6 will feel like. If we gain ult-points as slow as some guys think then the cheaper Take Flight is in my oppinion more important than the more expensive standart.
But I don't want to ignore that it is a nerf, it just won't kill the class imo.

cozmon3c_ESO

I read damage buffs all round for like every ability, was I wrong?

Mauz

ToRelax wrote: »

If you think that change won't effect DK at all... then I understand how cou can think all the other DKs are god like. Maybe a little cocky attitude thinking the same about yourself, but it's all relative, after all.

The truth is you have no idea how the changes to the DK will behave in relation to the hundreds of changes to the other classes and game mechancis before it goes live. You can just speculate. Some testing on PTS which will definitely be patched multiple times before go live wont change this.

Lhorion

@Mauz‌ It is true, we don't know how it will feel like, but @ToRelax‌ just wanted to say that it is a nerf. Cost of 200 would be stronger than 250.

Nijjion

Yeah with the ult nerf/change I have 0 clue why they nerf the cost of standard... sure if they weren't changing ultimate I might be ok with this change but come on this is a bit overkill don't you think.

I guess Veil of Blades got a big nerf with either you choose the damage side or the defensive side.

WRX wrote: »

Aside from the ulti thing, but that hurts everyone.

Hurts DK the most (they relied upon it the most I would say) especially in PvE as they got a lot of their DPS from that, and the sustain they had in PvP was through Ults. Class has changed a lot with the update, they won't be able to be at the front of the lines anymore and will have to range like everyone else... but we have no range skills with the class so not sure what we will want to do.

Angavar

Didn't fiery breath get a 30% buff? That +standard would still be pretty uber..

Night-claw

having one morph cost more then the other morph of ultimate makes sense doesn't laughs. i get it was abit op for some of you to handle im not pleased with the increase in cost to might and them not doing the same to shifting!

Koensol

OP, your whole thread loses credit because of 2 things:

1. Nova is still 300 ult, which still makes standard better.
2. DKs were buffed all over on their damage.

So please stop complaining. Templars wergot the same nerf to their synergy and then some. Our healing tree got nerfed, so now we all have to equip mage light to be a viable healer. We did get a nice dps buff though. But please, for the love of god STOP complainimg about your DK, because they only got a minor nerf.