What will be the OP class when 1.6 releases?

Cody

As the title says, what do y'all think will be the OP class when 1.6 comes around? or will DKs still be OP with their super talon spamming builds?

Lhorion

PvP?
PvE?
Raid?
Dungeons?
Duel?
Zerg?
2vs2?

Cody

everything:D

david.haypreub18_ESO

If history serves as any guide: DKs.

Sharee

Now where did i put that crystal ball...

Cogo

The player.....

Nightreaver

@Lhorion
Personally, I would add Stamina and Magicka builds to that list as that is one of my biggest concerns regarding balance.

As far as what I think people will consider to be OP?
Any ability that another class has that your class does not.
Any class that has ever beat you in PvP.
Any class you were unable to kill in PvP.
Any class that out DPS'd you in PvE.

If none of these cases apply to your class then that is a clear indication that everything is balanced and everyone else just need to L2P.

Khivas_Carrick

Templars and DK's I see becoming OP.

Gorthax

Not sorcs, that is for sure. We are officially dead with this patch

Panda244

Templars, DKs kind of got screwed over by the reflect and banner nerf, also unstable flame becoming a stam ability when it's a spell... Like surprise attack becoming a stam ability.



But DKs are DKs, the templar channeled ability does something like 13k dmg per cast though, so I can see a build revolving around temps being OP AF.

Khivas_Carrick

Actually all reports so far as Templars as far behind and Sorcs way ahead if they use pets, with DKs steamtrolling *** left and right.

Flaminir

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Actually all reports so far as Templars as far behind and Sorcs way ahead if they use pets, with DKs steamtrolling *** left and right.

My PTS hasn't downloaded yet.... but I just watched some of @Deltia s stream... and tbh the new Templar 'beam' looked waaaaay OP!!!!!

Everybody was just laughing at how quick & easy it was just to kill anything and everyone with it!

Deltia

Thanks for watching Dave, but yeah remember context is EVERYTHING. Sitting in PvE with zero pressure DPS'ing vs playing in PvP with 20 fire oils dumped on you is so much different. In PvP, the Templars are walking gods.

Flaminir

Very true Deltia... very true.

And who knows what will hit live...

With SO many changes to everything there are bound to be tweaks before we get it on live.

Khivas_Carrick

Deltia wrote: »

Thanks for watching Dave, but yeah remember context is EVERYTHING. Sitting in PvE with zero pressure DPS'ing vs playing in PvP with 20 fire oils dumped on you is so much different. In PvP, the Templars are walking gods.

Not a grain, but rather a bag of truth to this.

Pmarsico9

For PVE DPS, Sorcs are incredible right now on the PTS.

Flaminir

Pmarsico9 wrote: »

For PVE DPS, Sorcs are incredible right now on the PTS.

Which build?

Pets?

Pmarsico9

davedwildebeast wrote: »

Pmarsico9 wrote: »

For PVE DPS, Sorcs are incredible right now on the PTS.

Which build?

Pets?

Yeah. They are doing incredible DPS right now.

Khivas_Carrick

Pets are indeed insane, but Templars can actually compare pretty decently now to everyone else

Bouvin

Got hit by one for 20k earlier, but didn't screenshot it. Anyways...

Bouvin

Gorthax wrote: »

Not sorcs, that is for sure. We are officially dead with this patch

LOL

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Actually all reports so far as Templars as far behind and Sorcs way ahead if they use pets, with DKs steamtrolling *** left and right.

and LOL.

Anyone PvPing in PTS right now knows that Templars and Pet Sorcerers are owning everyone else.

Khivas_Carrick

Actually those were initial reports. New reports definitely say the opposite, and I'm on with that.

Lorkhan

nvm

Digiman

Bouvin wrote: »

Gorthax wrote: »

Not sorcs, that is for sure. We are officially dead with this patch

LOL

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Actually all reports so far as Templars as far behind and Sorcs way ahead if they use pets, with DKs steamtrolling *** left and right.

and LOL.

Anyone PvPing in PTS right now knows that Templars and Pet Sorcerers are owning everyone else.

So for Sorcerers its go pet or go home. Great, then that means they will nerf that into oblivion after 3 weeks when player outcry becomes overwhelming on the forums. Unless clever people use purge to get rid of Deadric Prey.

Looking at the other abilities there isn't really much other then a massive nerf in the sorcerers ability to gain health through damage. We aren't really rocking it that well, as all they did was force us into a niche.

Flaminir

Digiman wrote: »

Bouvin wrote: »

Gorthax wrote: »

Not sorcs, that is for sure. We are officially dead with this patch

LOL

Khivas_Carrick wrote: »

Actually all reports so far as Templars as far behind and Sorcs way ahead if they use pets, with DKs steamtrolling *** left and right.

and LOL.

Anyone PvPing in PTS right now knows that Templars and Pet Sorcerers are owning everyone else.

So for Sorcerers its go pet or go home. Great, then that means they will nerf that into oblivion after 3 weeks when player outcry becomes overwhelming on the forums. Unless clever people use purge to get rid of Deadric Prey.

Looking at the other abilities there isn't really much other then a massive nerf in the sorcerers ability to gain health through damage. We aren't really rocking it that well, as all they did was force us into a niche.

So let me get this straight... for me to now be effective as a Sorc I have to be a zookeeper?

In theory you could have FOUR lil flappy things around you in combat:

1. Clanfear
2. Flappy bird
3. Undaunted summons (Engine guardian/Daedroth...)
4. Vanity pet

We need a new 'Zookeeper' achievement!

Well... I say 'we'.... I don't like being a zookeeper & won't be taking this route. If I have to re-roll so be it.

Rev Rielle

Cogo wrote: »

The player.....

Most definitely, I agree. ESO more than most any other MMO is one that rewards the skilled player, excluding of course EVE Online.

Sublime

I personally think that the classes are more balanced than ever, every class has at least one strong build. The problem I see coming up is reduced build diversity, glass-cannon ranged builds, will be able to kill any unattentive player in seconds. guard might help if you play in a group but solo might get a bit fustrating.

So all weapon trees except dual wield are pretty much on par in my eyes, this might be because I haven't seen a good build yet or because it's damage is too low.

To get back to the original question I think NB + SR will be top, not because of they damage output, heal or mitigation, but simply because of their mobility. They have means to escape the action, which is extremely helpful in open world PvP and allows the player to take more fights. A TP/DK always has to win the fight, he can't run away, it's win or die, this leaves a lot less engage options, especially when outnumbered.

Panda244

The best player will be the most OP class. At least for PvP, class doesn't matter anymore, the better player is the one that wins the fight, or survives to fight another day. You can't be OP in PvP anymore since it's large group Vs. large group, it's generally all about who has the tactics and numbers now.

For smaller scale PvP? Dragonknights/Templars because of their self heals, damage shields, and damage output.

Edit: This has always been the case imo, Templars and DKs were always the strongest classes in sustained PvP

Cody

Panda244 wrote: »

The best player will be the most OP class. At least for PvP, class doesn't matter anymore, the better player is the one that wins the fight, or survives to fight another day. You can't be OP in PvP anymore since it's large group Vs. large group, it's generally all about who has the tactics and numbers now.

For smaller scale PvP? Dragonknights/Templars because of their self heals, damage shields, and damage output.

Edit: This has always been the case imo, Templars and DKs were always the strongest classes in sustained PvP

/inserts comment about "better" meaning spamming those damage shields endlessly

aco5712

templars (JESUS BEAM) + sorcs (ranged dps is insane) - pvp
who cares - pve?

Orchish

Sorcs and Templars seem to be very popular on PTS right now.