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Solving DK Problem!
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭IMO DKs are very fun to play, nice to be 1V6 and see people struggling to kill you (mind you I'm not dealing Insane DPS but barely surviving when I do that), or just going 1V1 against an unsuspected enemy and destroying him.
It's even funnier and nicer when I engage a Templar or a NB who knows how to play and he ends up ruining me because I make mistakes.
Guess you won't see them crying on forums
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Koensol✭✭✭✭✭
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Knowing the guy you quoted plays a NB and has made countless QQ threads about this, makes it all the more fun.mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »the more you can tank, the less you should be able to damage deal.
the more damage you do, the less you should be able to tank.
dragonights have both high damage and high tank ability, totaly unfair to the other classes and creates imbalance and frustrated pvp players who fight the dragonights.
It sure creates a lot of QQ from people who don't know how to fight, that for sure. Especially NBs. It's very amusing to watch.
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Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
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Knowing the guy you quoted plays a NB and has made countless QQ threads about this, makes it all the more fun.mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »the more you can tank, the less you should be able to damage deal.
the more damage you do, the less you should be able to tank.
dragonights have both high damage and high tank ability, totaly unfair to the other classes and creates imbalance and frustrated pvp players who fight the dragonights.
It sure creates a lot of QQ from people who don't know how to fight, that for sure. Especially NBs. It's very amusing to watch.
He he yeah.
Nevermind, that you see some S&B Nightblades using Sap Essence and Veil of Blades do more DPS & tank more than DKs with Standard, Talons and GDB. Or Templars who do less DPS but tank more with their Blazing Shield and Breath of Life.
Nah it's just the DKs that can do it, don't show me facts I don't like them. Blah blah NOT LISTENING blah blah blah
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eventide03b14a_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Can we please stop with these nerf threads? If you want to create a thread suggesting ways to improve a class fine, but these have got to stop.Edited by eventide03b14a_ESO on 8 October 2014 15:25:trollin:4 -
Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »Can we please stop with these nerf threads? If you want to create a thread suggesting ways to improve a class fine, but these have got to stop.
I would agree if I didn't find the level of bias and ignorance in most of them so refreshingly funny
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jelliedsoup✭✭✭✭✭
Don't try to push that approach. Dks are op.
Reflect, invasion, talons, whip....rinse and repeat. Dragon blood if you forget to reflect and get hit from range.www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=Ks8_KGHqmO41 -
jelliedsoup✭✭✭✭✭Surfinginhawaii wrote: »Another discussion about Dragonknights being overpowered, how original
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If ZoS do nothing about it, the complaints are going to continue.
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jelliedsoup✭✭✭✭✭
The irony of this statement is that dks have not and don't have to.xMovingTarget wrote: »
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PBpsy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭L2P== "Bow down to your DK overlords puny humans"ESO forums achievementsProud fanboiElitist jerkTrollHaterFan of icontested(rainbow colors granted)4 -
TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭jelliedsoup wrote: »
The irony of this statement is that dks have not and don't have to.xMovingTarget wrote: »
Very funny you say that after a post from @xMovingTarget
not like he has one of the best DPS atm with his DK ^^. 0 -
Mondo✭✭✭✭OP DKs supporting other OP DKs ^^ nah guys you totally dont need a nerf
Im not the Hero you need, im the Troll you deserve!
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Mondo✭✭✭✭I just cant believe that you believe you are fine. Sorry i have a Temp twink and i still want a shield nerf ^^ that would hit me also but its little necessaryIm not the Hero you need, im the Troll you deserve!
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I just cant believe that you believe you are fine. Sorry i have a Temp twink and i still want a shield nerf ^^ that would hit me also but its little necessary
We are fine for what we do. The only reason people QQ about DKs is that there are more DKs than any other class out there and thus you see more skilled DKs than anything else.
Yet, I've seen Vampire sorcs get in the middle of a zerg with their vampire ultimate, kill 3/4 people with volatile explosion, then invasion on someone else and bolt escape out. Seen NBs get out of the shadow and destroy any character, DK or not, then hide & run away, only to return as soon as people abandon their search to destroy a new player (rince and repeat).
Seen templars use blazing shield amongst 10 persons and destroying those who just spam the keys without wondering why they are getting damage from a target that is not moving, seen templars use blazing shield, wait for DKs to waste stamina then use their spear to continuously attack the dk and kill him.
Is DK easier to play than those other classes to be as effective? Probably. Doesn't mean they are more op, just means the people playing the other classes aren't using the correct builds and skills to be as OP as DKs are.
You might thing we troll by saying it's a L2P issue, but it actually really is.3 -
Mondo✭✭✭✭If you really believe that. I still think you are to tanky for your DMG and you got the best tolls/skills to do you job very very great. thats why there are so many DKs out there. Every class got some nice gifts and weaknes but DK is like yeah just gifts no weaknessIm not the Hero you need, im the Troll you deserve!
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Mondo✭✭✭✭
Made my Day. Funny because its true
Im not the Hero you need, im the Troll you deserve!
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TehMagnus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you really believe that. I still think you are to tanky for your DMG and you got the best tolls/skills to do you job very very great. thats why there are so many DKs out there. Every class got some nice gifts and weaknes but DK is like yeah just gifts no weakness
DK's weakness is stamina
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r.jan_emailb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Please nerf sorcs; they are ranged, and I can't really engage them without s/b, forcing me to play in a certain way. Also, they can teleport somewhere without needing a target like I do for my charge.
Please nerf nightblades; they can go invis midfight, I don't like that they have this kind of advantage. Also, they can heal themself while doing damage, I don't like that.
Please nerf templars; they have better heals, a nice shield, ranged attacks/debuffs and a melee skill with included cc.
Just to make sure you don't miss it, remove the tankyness from the DK and you have to give us something else.Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
playing for eXile
I'm done, CU somewhere else.6 -
Jacques Berge✭✭✭✭Let me start by saying this... My main is a vamp NB and I really haven't played the DK class much. That said, I really don't think that DKs are at the world smashingly high power level they once were (compared to other classes). I still think that the class is still inherantly the most powerful, but that's what comes from having a large birth of universally good skills. I really don't think there should be a nerf to DKs... Just tweaks and minor increases to other classes, so the power levels even out.
I feel like the major issue here isn't DKs. It's shield attacking. Lava whip is just currently the best blocking attack. The block attack spam needs to be removed, by all means... But that's not a DK OP problem, that's a general combat issue. Being a DK doesn't mean you're unstoppable... Even if you spam block whip... Here's your proof.
http://youtu.be/HP08c1xCW2E
Yes I used potions, I have a passive for potions, I will always use potions, yes I also fight like an ass.... Again, I'm a rogue type. Being an ass is kinda our thing. Enjoy
Edited by Jacques Berge on 9 October 2014 09:08"Shadow hide you"
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Domander✭✭✭✭✭
✭Someone who is built to tank does not do high damage...
DKs that do good damage build to do good damage....compare a good DK's "tankyness" with a good sorc using bolt escape to avoid damage along with damage shields or a good templar using blazing shield and heals. Nightblade is done a bit differently, (they hide) though I've seen "tanky" resto staff/sword and board nightblades.
DKs are just hard to counter if all you know how to do is see an enemy and shoot it, or do all your damage upfront with no longevity. It's hard to kill a good DK fast.
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Mendoze✭✭✭I hate these nerf threads, but I'd sure like to see some buffs for ranged classes to have a chance against DKs. I don't know what devs should do to fix that, but luckily I don't have to. They are getting paid for that, not me. How about dirt cheap shield that can be up 100% that reflects all fire damage back to attacker?Edited by Mendoze on 9 October 2014 09:560 -
r.jan_emailb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I hate these nerf threads, but I'd sure like to see some buffs for ranged classes to have a chance against DKs. I don't know what devs should do to fix that, but luckily I don't have to. They are getting paid for that, not me. How about dirt cheap shield that can be up 100% that reflects all fire damage back to attacker?
Pro tip: Attacks can only be reflected twice. Especially sorcs can do nice stuff when knowing this.
Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
playing for eXile
I'm done, CU somewhere else.0 -
Niebla✭
Pro tip: Attacks can only be reflected twice. Especially sorcs can do nice stuff when knowing this.
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Shhhh.... omg! Don't tell ssss0
no rage, we will share our secrets with you if you stop asking for nerfs on our poor DKs that have allready been nerfed to the underground. 