So.. Sorc Streak with Unlimited Targets and Ultimate Gain

Soliss

Is it intended that Streak (the morph of Bolt Escape) for Sorcerers has an unlimited number of targets that it can damage+disorient? By hitting a uncapped large number of people, the Sorcerer gains ultimate very quickly.

Is this an intended mechanic?

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ , @ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ , @ZOS_Anyone?

Vez

It is a counter to blobbing that does very little damage, can be blocked, negated, and absorbed, and can't be spammed with the current cost of Streak.

Soloeus

And its bugged so 1/2 of the time when you cast it, you are just standing still burning mana.

Soliss

Well if hitting 300-400 damage to each person is very little damage with no target caps (maxing out spell damage and magicka). People who know how to use it, cast it a couple of times, gets up enough ultimate, uses ultimate, 4 second magicka timer is up and can chain it again.

And it seems to work most of the time from what I can see. You're probably pointing yourself at a wall or something.

c0rp

Soliss wrote: »

Well if hitting 300-400 damage to each person is very little damage with no target caps (maxing out spell damage and magicka). People who know how to use it, cast it a couple of times, gets up enough ultimate, uses ultimate, 4 second magicka timer is up and can chain it again.

And it seems to work most of the time from what I can see. You're probably pointing yourself at a wall or something.

Unless you are a sorc that has been using BE, you should just not comment on what its like to use it. I cant count the number of times I cast it and dont even move. He's right.

Dudegr

New to pvp and just got powned by some sorc? Yeah its been like that since launch (besides the cooldown nerf) so it works well and as intended.L2P or get used to it and leave the sorcs alone it was and still is the only close to balanced class in the buggy game.

Soliss

If you know how to use it, Streak is a very very powerful weapon for exactly the reasons I listed. Apparently a few of you don't want anyone else to know. Especially in the hands of a capable sorcerer.

To have one of the very few abilities with no target cap, my question to Zenimax was: "is this intentional?"

Blink issues all have the same issues due to glitchy terrain/objects getting in the way. It's not specific to bolt escape but effects charge abilities, leaping/chaining abilities, and teleport, so don't act like no one else presses a button in ESO and nothing happens.

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Trolling & Baiting]

Soloeus

Sorcerer Bolt Escape isn't half as bad as Nightblade guaranteed "POOF GONE
after every single critical stun attack.

Hypertionb14_ESO

if it is not 6 target capped, then yes that is likley unintended... ZOS has thusfar been quite Solid on their AOE cap.

Soloeus

This isn't an AOE ability. It looks like one but isn't one. Learn to use Leash, Block, Roll Dodge. Easy.

I feel this is a "Person Blame" issue not a "Blame The System" issue.

Rakshat

If people like stacking up in unkillable zergtrains, I might as well make some use of it by streaking right through the entire blob of ***.

CapuchinSeven

Soloeus wrote: »

Sorcerer Bolt Escape isn't half as bad as Nightblade guaranteed "POOF GONE
after every single critical stun attack.

lol what?

ThisOnePosts

If enemies are lining up like that for a Sorc with no one to have a bit of stamina to break-free.... then apparently those such enemies are playing the game entirely wrong. It's not an AOE. You move, in a line and it works on enemies in your path, not around you.

And Sol, Cloak is broken half the time so if a NB is able to do that to you (not to mention the times it hits for no damage after combat has begun) please send them to ZOS so they can be evaluated on how they found the magic fix.

skoomatrait

lo its so funny how the sorcs who spaming unintended properties of streak in PvP trying to lie to all of us "learn to play....bla bla bla" )

Guys please create tickets not in game but via website (to get your ticket number) and report this uncapped aoe, zos should change this broken mechanics due to player request

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ @ZOS_BrianWheeler

crislevin

Soliss wrote: »

Ah, it's so sad that you cling so hard, @Dudegr. I'd weep for you but I don't feel anything for you really.

If you know how to use it, Streak is a very very powerful weapon for exactly the reasons I listed. Apparently a few of you don't want anyone else to know. Especially in the hands of a capable sorcerer. I'm probably not referring to you, btw.

To have one of the very few abilities with no target cap, my question to Zenimax was: "is this intentional?" And you're crying like someone is taking your baby bottle away.

Blink issues all have the same issues due to glitchy terrain/objects getting in the way. It's not specific to bolt escape but effects charge abilities, leaping/chaining abilities, and teleport, so don't act like no one else presses a button in ESO and nothing happens.

complete bs, are you new to this forum or something? there were massive number of threads discussing this topic to death already.

If you are just being jealous, go roll a sorc and get over it. And be prepared to have some patience, unlike other abused skills by NB, DK, and Temp, you aren't likely to unlock this skill until VERY late in the game, maybe not even before you reach vet.

c0rp

LMFAO...lets nerf the only skill in the game that is even remotely capable of minutely disrupting a zerg ball of people who cant l2p and block...HAHAHAHA

Sleep

When enemy zerg is at the flag, streak, turn around, negate, streak, turn around, negate...

Zanderscotxub17_ESO

I can tell you this ...

QQ about streak is pointless.

Its the last good power for sorcs

All other classes have creeped past sorc in all other catagories besides aoes. The only good sorc build left are aoe monsters.

If people are dumb enough to group up in a ball they should be fair picking to a well built sorc. If your going to QQ about streak play a sorc and see how it takes min max builds to even compete effectivly in pvp these day. Solo or spread opponents = a very large disadvantage to sorc.

This is a l2p issues dont wine on the forum know your opponent sorc have very few option in pvp learn to counter with a cc.

Math wise its 6 ultima per targert not that big, its when there's 20 of you in a ball that it becomes relevant. Play like a pro and dont use zergs.

I hope this is insightful, iam not trying to be mean I just dislike nerf this and that.BLOCK , cc , burst , or sorc on sorc negate + root/slow. Best of luck

Armitas

Well that would explain all the silence bombing...

Road2insanity777

Soliss wrote: »

Is it intended that Streak (the morph of Bolt Escape) for Sorcerers has an unlimited number of targets that it can damage+disorient? By hitting a uncapped large number of people, the Sorcerer gains ultimate very quickly.

Is this an intended mechanic?

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ , @ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ , @ZOS_Anyone?

90% of the bugs/exploits/broken skills I have encountered have been from Sorcs. As somewone doesn't play a sorc, until sorcs are fixed I wont be resubscribing...

Leovolao

Zanderscotxub17_ESO wrote: »

All other classes have creeped past sorc in all other catagories besides aoes. The only good sorc build left are aoe monsters.

Yeahh... nope!

GnatB

ViciousWayz wrote: »

If enemies are lining up like that for a Sorc with no one to have a bit of stamina to break-free.... then apparently those such enemies are playing the game entirely wrong. It's not an AOE. You move, in a line and it works on enemies in your path, not around you.

I think you may want to learn what an AoE is. It is, in fact, an Area of Effect skill. That "Area of Effect" being a rectangle (or column, if you prefer) about a person wide, and the length of the movement.

Nobody ever said it was a PBAoE. (a.k.a. Point Blank Area of Effect), i.e. a spell with a circular area of effect centered on yourself.

Leovolao

Road2insanity777 wrote: »

Soliss wrote: »

Is it intended that Streak (the morph of Bolt Escape) for Sorcerers has an unlimited number of targets that it can damage+disorient? By hitting a uncapped large number of people, the Sorcerer gains ultimate very quickly.

Is this an intended mechanic?

@ZOS_GinaBruno‌ , @ZOS_BrianWheeler‌ , @ZOS_Anyone?

90% of the bugs/exploits/broken skills I have encountered have been from Sorcs. As somewone doesn't play a sorc, until sorcs are fixed I wont be resubscribing...

Please do tell me about all this bugs, exploits and broken skills. Proof and examples, if you don't mind.

Vatter

They should keep the streak as it is but just take away the disorient. The action should be just a retreat ability not an offensive tool. One of the biggest problems with blobs are sorcs streaking ahead of blobs to remove stamina from people followed by dk's who spam talons (perma rooted) and vamps behind them spamming bats and impulse.

Leovolao

Vatter wrote: »

They should keep the streak as it is but just take away the disorient. The action should be just a retreat ability not an offensive tool. One of the biggest problems with blobs are sorcs streaking ahead of blobs to remove stamina from people followed by dk's who spam talons (perma rooted) and vamps behind them spamming bats and impulse.

if you know it's coming, why won't you block? Or move away?

NorthernFury

Pretty descriptive, but if it wasn't clear, the incessant whining about sorc abilities is getting ridiculous. You got beat by a player using his abilities better than you did. It happens. Try playing one before you complain.

Potenza

NorthernFury wrote: »

Pretty descriptive, but if it wasn't clear, the incessant whining about sorc abilities is getting ridiculous. You got beat by a player using his abilities better than you did. It happens. Try playing one before you complain.

Most certainly this.

Vatter

Leovolao wrote: »

Vatter wrote: »

They should keep the streak as it is but just take away the disorient. The action should be just a retreat ability not an offensive tool. One of the biggest problems with blobs are sorcs streaking ahead of blobs to remove stamina from people followed by dk's who spam talons (perma rooted) and vamps behind them spamming bats and impulse.

if you know it's coming, why won't you block? Or move away?

How can I block or move if the characters don't even render on my screen? most vamp sorcs go invisible and streak with bats. Wonder how much crying will happen when they fix that exploit. Not to mention the forum breaking crying if they disabled your action bar while you blocked.

HAHAHA what am I saying ZoS can't even fix the game breaking bugs going on now. One thing is for sure. Everyone playing a sorc is trying their very very hardest to shut these types of threads down. Playing a sorc is so easy mode god forbid you would have to learn to play.

Current sorc rotation : streak, shard, shard, shard, (they get 3 off because the person holding block moves at 25% speed) when the other player gets close, streak, shard, shard, shard, (player out of stamina) execute.

Xanthro

Leovolao wrote: »

if you know it's coming, why won't you block? Or move away?

Because 90% of the time you don't know it's coming. Someone in mist form and can't be targeted and has no health bar, then BOLT turn BOLT turn BOLT turn.
Plus, a good bit of time, blocking does nothing to prevent the bolt from disorienting you, especially if there is a large group around, because this causes lag. You may show you are blocking, but the character attacking you that you do see is actually already past you and has cast bolt already.

Erock25

Vatter wrote: »

Current sorc rotation : streak, shard, shard, shard, (they get 3 off because the person holding block moves at 25% speed) when the other player gets close, streak, shard, shard, shard, (player out of stamina) execute.

I love when people who have never played a class (obvious from what I quoted above) are calling for nerfs.

Leovolao

Vatter wrote: »

Leovolao wrote: »

Vatter wrote: »

They should keep the streak as it is but just take away the disorient. The action should be just a retreat ability not an offensive tool. One of the biggest problems with blobs are sorcs streaking ahead of blobs to remove stamina from people followed by dk's who spam talons (perma rooted) and vamps behind them spamming bats and impulse.

if you know it's coming, why won't you block? Or move away?

How can I block or move if the characters don't even render on my screen? most vamp sorcs go invisible and streak with bats. Wonder how much crying will happen when they fix that exploit. Not to mention the forum breaking crying if they disabled your action bar while you blocked.

HAHAHA what am I saying ZoS can't even fix the game breaking bugs going on now. One thing is for sure. Everyone playing a sorc is trying their very very hardest to shut these types of threads down. Playing a sorc is so easy mode god forbid you would have to learn to play.

Current sorc rotation : streak, shard, shard, shard, (they get 3 off because the person holding block moves at 25% speed) when the other player gets close, streak, shard, shard, shard, (player out of stamina) execute.

Characters not rendering is not a sorc issue, neither is action bar disable (I'm guessing that's the skill going all grey and not working). I just don't see the easy mode.

About that rotation, I just laughed a little. Are you seriously getting hit by hard cast crystal at least 2 times after 1 streak? Man I would love to fight you, I can't get away with doing this so called easy mode rotation on players new to pvp.