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Do players deserve a vote on arenas?

Lowbei
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Do players deserve an official launcher based poll to vote on arenas, ae caps, etc?
Edited by Lowbei on 17 June 2014 14:16

Do players deserve a vote on arenas? 113 votes

Yes
43%
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No
56%
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  • Dudis
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    Yes
    Would be interesting to see what the majority of players thinks about this stuff rather than just the vocal minority and forum trolls.

    That said, I don't expect many educated votes on stuff like AoE caps, so meh.
    Edited by Dudis on 17 June 2014 14:29
  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    someone voted no?

    lol
  • Gisgo
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    No
    Two things:

    - videogames are not democracies
    - if you didnt like the poll results, you would call it "invalid" because blah blah blah. You always do, like here for example: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/110535/do-you-really-want-arena-pvp#latest

    So whats the point of a poll, anyway?
    Edited by Gisgo on 17 June 2014 15:25
  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    lol your reading skills are lacking

    how would an official launcher poll be invalid?

    and why wouldnt a customer of a service want a say in what content is provided?
    Edited by Lowbei on 17 June 2014 15:31
  • Gisgo
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    No
    Your all argument is moot, if Zos wants to run an "official" poll they would do it, and maybe they will, no need for you to babble about it.
    You are just opening your daily "we need arena i am skilled you are not" thread.
  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    i didnt mention myself in any way, you did haha

    many companies have official polls thru their launchers. you must be new to mmos.

  • Gisgo
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    No
    Played Daoc since day 1 but yeah im new too MMO :|
  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    there were masses of zerging bads in daoc, who i would still consider "new" based on skill level, no offense :smile:

    fyi, mythic has had numerous official polls thru their launcher :wink:

    best poll of the day imo
    Edited by Lowbei on 17 June 2014 15:44
  • Gisgo
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    No
    Lowbei wrote: »
    there were masses of zerging bads in daoc, that means nothing, no offense

    And here we go, you started it again :#
    Told ya it was your daily "im good ur bad" thread.

    Yeah, we know on the forum you are a top player.
  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    i never mentioned myself at all, you are projecting again.

  • Gisgo
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    No
    Lowbei wrote: »
    i never mentioned myself at all, you are projecting again.

    LOL! Yourself is all you speak about!

    Edited by Gisgo on 17 June 2014 15:48
  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    feel free to quote where i said i was good or that you were bad.

    oh wait you cant, cuz you were just projecting :blush:

    stop crying lol
    Edited by Lowbei on 17 June 2014 15:49
  • Gisgo
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    No
    Lowbei wrote: »
    feel free to quote where i said i was good.

    It is sufficient to check you thread history to see what kind of personality you are hiding behind your daily arena threads.
  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    less butthurt please :wink:
  • Xexpo
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    No
    "players deserve"? ... wow , entitled much?

    Players gave us VR levels, players got templars crippled pre-launch, players got the api gutted, players got game development time devoted to a smoother (and completely useless) first person mode, players brought on the enforcing of aoe caps with their incessant whining, players are trying to get Dks and Sorcs nerfed into the ground (where the classes aren't what needs fixing) , players ate my disagree button... I really could go on.

    The only thing players "deserve" is probably a kick in the <insert body part here>.
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  • Gisgo
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    No
    Lowbei wrote: »
    less butthurt please

    How original /drool

  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    Gisgo wrote: »
    Lowbei wrote: »
    less butthurt please

    How original /drool

    thanks for drying your eyes gisgo, no more tears now please :)

    kaer if we had official launcher polls, then maybe so many of those player made nerfs wouldnt have happened.
    Edited by Lowbei on 17 June 2014 15:58
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Yes
    I dont think zen has a system to actially check on each players opinion , even more , because i never in any MMO i played saw a poll you had to take part in , at most they made it appear ingame , still tons of people i knew never answered anything, people just avoid losing time.

    With that said , i dont see why not , that devs would see how many answered and so on also.

    Creating such a tool would be nice for community feedback on things.

    With that said :P , i would still guess the majority would be against such thing , dont see why people think ingame players would be any more supportive than the forum players , but oh well , might aswell just test it and be done with this once and for all.
    Edited by Nox_Aeterna on 17 June 2014 16:13
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  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    you make it part of the launcher, so they have to vote before the "play" button lights up

    this way you are sure to get all paying customers opinions. Mythic (daoc) has used this before successfully
  • Tannakaobi
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    No
    Too many fools that can't look past the failures of WoW....

    'Because arena's will ruin eso, no matter how they are implemented.'

    and although I think this could be true, implementation is key. It could be awesome if done right it could be an epic failure if they just copy and paste WoW's system. But I'm not one to reject an idea because of other games.

    If an arena is implemented I would like to see a PVE version also. This would nullify any complaints over rewards using 'arena points' and add a system to grind for XP, which would be ace.
  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    ... the question wasnt whether we should have arenas... thats a different poll...

    also, arenas are for bragging rights, and should give no points, which solves that issue you have.
  • Tannakaobi
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    No
    You misunderstand me, I'm in favor of Arena's, no way should their be a vote on it. We already know the result, it would be 35% give or take in favor. Which is is easily enough to warrant it being a feature.

    If there was no reward, less people would play, that's why I suggest a PVE version to counterbalance the argument that rewards would some how ruin it. Not to mention it would please the people that don't want to play the VR.
  • driosketch
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    No
    kaer426 wrote: »
    "players deserve"? ... wow , entitled much?

    Players gave us VR levels, players got templars crippled pre-launch, players got the api gutted, players got game development time devoted to a smoother (and completely useless) first person mode, players brought on the enforcing of aoe caps with their incessant whining, players are trying to get Dks and Sorcs nerfed into the ground (where the classes aren't what needs fixing) , players ate my disagree button... I really could go on.

    The only thing players "deserve" is probably a kick in the <insert body part here>.
    I don't agree with everything here, but it does illustrate how player feedback can be a double edge sword.
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  • DeLindsay
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    No
    Players have the choice to voice their opinion on upcoming content and the company making the game may or may not decide to take advice from said players. But in the end it's not OUR game, it's ZoS's game. ZoS hasn't forced any of us to give them money or continue to give them money. If you don't like something they implement, like Arenas, then you are certainly welcome to find another game that suits you better. I'm sure there will be plenty of players happy to have Arena, or any other type of new content ZoS comes out with.

    Bottom line, there is nothing that the players "deserve" other than continued support from the developers to keep fixing issues with the game, which they are.
  • joshisanonymous
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    No
    Lowbei wrote: »
    ... the question wasnt whether we should have arenas... thats a different poll...

    Right, because the title of this thread isn't "Do players deserve a vote on arenas?"

    You only squeezed in the word "ae caps" in the description to get more "Yes" votes for a poll that is clearly just about arenas.

    We don't have arenas. Get over it. Or maybe I should say: "Less butthurt, please?"
    Edited by joshisanonymous on 17 June 2014 16:56
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  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    Lowbei wrote: »
    ... the question wasnt whether we should have arenas... thats a different poll...

    Right, because the title of this thread isn't "Do players deserve a vote on arenas?"

    You only squeezed in the word "ae caps" in the description to get more "Yes" votes for a poll that is clearly just about arenas.

    We don't have arenas. Get over it. Or maybe I should say: "Less butthurt, please?"

    lol, again the poll was not about "should we have arenas" no matter how much you want it to be.

    its about should we have the launcher vote

    please learn to read before making a fool of yourself in the future :smile:
  • JoseDelgadoCub17_ESO
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    Yes
    We all know the people that don't want arenas are RvR fanboys, PvE players and care bears that liked being carried and spamming AoE and calling it PvP
  • Gecko
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    No
    I also voted no. The decision should be solely up to ZOS and the direction they have planned for the game. They are the ones who know what they want the game to be, pandering to votes by a small (very small) representation of the community can lead to pretty big problems later.
  • Lowbei
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    Yes
    how would a launcher poll that every player must click on to enter the game, be a "very small" representation of the community?

    at least read the poll before voting lol

    i think its hilarious that more players voted against democracy in favor of dictatorship.
    Edited by Lowbei on 17 June 2014 21:47
  • DeLindsay
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    No
    We all know the people that don't want arenas are RvR fanboys, PvE players and care bears that liked being carried and spamming AoE and calling it PvP

    I voted no and I WANT Arenas, your comment is invalid. The point is, players do not "deserve" to have a say in upcoming content, only an opinion thereof.
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