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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668104/

ZoS until you address Stamina Builds, You're not fixing the problem with class nerfs.

  • TheBucket
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    rotatorkuf wrote: »
    c0rp wrote: »
    The fact that they are trying to balance this game with only ONE attribute build being effective is so asinine to me....I just dont understand some of the decisions this company makes.

    this....a million times this

    something i want to point out....look at all the gear sets and how they all recover magicka or are mostly magicka based....it's like zenimax has a cloth/magicka loving dev that keeps sneaking in all these changes while every other dev is 'oblivious'

    edit: and ANOTHER imbalance toward magicka....of all the crafted sets, only 1 has weapon crit.....compared to 3 with spell crit

    wtf zenimax, wake up

    what set recovers stamina or buffs stamina? (no, i'm not talking about +14 stamina recovery, which is also worthless)

    Actually this would be awesome. To have set pieces similar to warlock and furnace but for stamina....that alone would be a great step in improving things
    Edited by TheBucket on 15 June 2014 04:45
    William Reignes
    Magic Nightblade - Rogue Bomber
    Creator of Thirsty Thief Build (Retired 1.5)
  • Ghenra
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    At this moment, for most stamina builds you are a noob, if you have a magika build you are a pro-player. Why? Because magika skills, armor, items, etc. are better than stamina skills, armors, items, etc.

    A part of this, if you use stamina skills, you don't have stamina pool for block/roll.

    NICE BALANCE!!!

    Tip: nerf the light armor, buff the heavy armor, nerf the magika builds, buff the stamina builds, thanks.

    The Elders Sorcs Online (all the people with light armor + staff) --> Painfull
  • Shaun98ca2
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    Its strange my Stamina build is no where near soft cap as I have to have some points in Magicka for my healer build.

    But my Stamina build does not seem to have an issue with the use of Stamina skill+Block, Dodge, Stun, CC Break.

    Actually even since I started PUTTING points into Stamina it seems I get MUCH MUCH more use out of Block, Dodge, Stun, CC Break than my FULL Magicka build ever did.

    Also when my Stamina build runs out of Stamina I don't feel weak a new born kitten I still feel quite strong PLUS I have the added bonus of my Magicka abilities which a few of them are good regardless of points in Magicka.
  • Keoregh
    Keoregh
    Shaun98ca2 wrote: »
    But my Stamina build does not seem to have an issue with the use of Stamina skill+Block, Dodge, Stun, CC Break.

    Actually even since I started PUTTING points into Stamina it seems I get MUCH MUCH more use out of Block, Dodge, Stun, CC Break than my FULL Magicka build ever did.

    You mean ... The more points you put in stamina, the more pool you have, the more block you used ?
    No way ? Why anyone here haven't noticed it ? :expressionless:

    Ok sorry for beeing sarcastic.

    The point here, where ppl coming saying "my stam is alright, I think", what lvl are you ?
    Btw, this is not a debate but a fact.
    We're not trying to convince you, this is a fact.
    Stamina sucks. In any points (already listed here). So please, stop this kind a messages ....
  • Wifeaggro13
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    Patch after Patch I see buffing of Night Blades, and Nerfing of Dragon Knights.

    The only thing you've managed to do during that was make the Stamina Builds of each of those classes more useless then before.

    Nightblade Stamina builds are still blah, and will never been taken because You've turned around and made the Caster Builds even stronger. There is a reason right now Nightblades are now becoming the Meta on the Euro Servers for Trials.

    You've managed to weaken DragonKnight Caster Builds some, making them weaker the the Nightblade ones in terms of DPS, but you've absolutely gutted what little options there was for Stamina on the DK. Everytime you nerf a Class ability on the DK without actually fixing the problem of Light Armor vs Medium/Heavy you make those Stamina users that much worse.

    You're forcing everyone into this Caster Based setup with each patch...Hell you actually had more build diversity before ya nerfed bash, Because at least one Stamina Build worked.

    Until you actually address this issue, You're not fixing the problem.

    completely the truth across the board Stam builds are garbage. currently they keep nerfing classes based around the light armor Destro build which makes the Heavy / medium melee build unplayable. Rookie development mistakes will lead to larger subscription loses.
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