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NOT Quitting ESO

  • yodased
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    You have to remember something about the whole death screen thing: AOE ticks are added up the entire fight before you die, so if he stacked 3x300DPS AOE on you and you died in the 2nd second thats 1800hp damage shown on the screen.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • countesscrownub18_ESO
    yodased wrote: »
    You have to remember something about the whole death screen thing: AOE ticks are added up the entire fight before you die, so if he stacked 3x300DPS AOE on you and you died in the 2nd second thats 1800hp damage shown on the screen.

    True. I have read that. However...at beginning of battle you throw one attack and u are dead. Not sure how there is time there for anything to stack. Think of it....who at VR3 has 2600 hps?
  • Zanagan
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    I will keep my subscription current. However.... I think until these bugs and super mobs are fixed "just got hit for 2600 from an AOE ability". I will play occassionally but going to give Wild Star a try. I declined all beta invites because ESO was so good. Lately however "VR content sucks"

    Thanks for letting us know I think.
  • Zanagan
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    zeuseason wrote: »
    I also heard Wildstar will have cash AMP/ability or something purchases making it a p2w game. It's already a bit of a money grab as it is.

    Can you list this source please? I don't think you know what P2W wins.

  • GreySix
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    If there's one thing I've learned in 20 years of MMO gaming, it is that <insert next MMO release here> is WAY better than <insert name of currently playing MMO here>.

    Yep. You can go to any ____ MMO forum and see it in play.
    Crotchety Old Man Guild

    "Hey you, get off my lawn!"
  • Apricot
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    zeuseason wrote: »
    IMO, Wildstar is a bad MMO. It's pumped on hype of being the next WoW, and granted it's launching with lotsa features, I almost hated playing it with any class combination I tried. The graphics are from the year 2000, the art stye IMO is kiddie lame, and the only draw I had to the game was how cool the developers approached the game. But really, when you get in game......it sucks.

    I'm looking forward to the stupidity of the media upping this game compared to much better games along it's side.

    In my experience people who claim WS sucks haven't played it past level 15 or given the reason because . . . graphics. Most people who actually played WS have a totally different view. To be honest I had no intention of ever stepping foot in that game because of the art style. Finally gave it a shot. The starting areas are indeed "meh" and at first the classes seemed "meh" as well.

    But the thing about WS is the more you level in that game the more intense it becomes. After level 15 things change. After level 30 the game goes into omg-can't-put-it-down-it's-so-fun mode. Classes feel smooth and really well done. Abilities synergize and combat is AWESOME! Once you go into a dungeon or raid? That's it. If you like challenging, reactive, intense and fun content you're hooked. It's the most fun I've had since early WoW. I'm also SUPER impressed with the PvP.

    This is all subjective, of course. If you like doing repetitive questing over and over ESO's your game. If you like endless zerg PvP, you'll enjoy ESO. If you like having access to tons of useless skills and builds, ESO's for you. If you like mindlessly mashing AOE abilities, you'll like ESO. If you like playing one of the two classes that actually make sense and spending hours and hours and hours doing linear quests for pocket change, then you're in the right place.

    If you like DC's, hackers, exploiters, botters, bugs (and more bugs), broken abilities and passives, then you'll love, LOVE ESO. If you think that having to spend weeks and weeks to reach level cap = hard, then you should be playing ESO. If you think this game is at all challenging then by all means, keep playing.

    As for me? On 5/30/14 at 12:01 PDT I'll be logging into WS with a ton of guildies, and you'll never have the pleasure of seeing my face here ever again.





  • mutharex
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    Ah Ws fanbois.. nice to see they know their game is doomed and they are all out trying to proselytise... good luck guys, you gonna need it
  • Skillet
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    Took one look at cartoony Wildstar Graphics and said no thanks. been there done that with Borderlands.
  • GreySix
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    Skillet wrote: »
    Took one look at cartoony Wildstar Graphics and said no thanks. been there done that with Borderlands.
    Think we're perhaps the only two folks on the planet who couldn't find a way to like Borderlands. Nearly everyone else seems to think its among the greatest games ever.
    Crotchety Old Man Guild

    "Hey you, get off my lawn!"
  • Apricot
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    mutharex wrote: »
    It's not a question of difficulty, is that it's the typical linear wowclone where you just grind through boring levels to get to what?Raiding? No thanks.
    As opposed to grinding through three times the boring levels to get to . . . um . . hmm . . . help me out here . . .
    mutharex wrote: »
    I don't doubt people will like it and play it. Till WoD comes out and they go F2P because all their intended public has gone back to WoW
    That could happen. WoW seems to be changing direction with WOD so who knows? I don't have a crystal ball. But most people playing WS think it's a ton more fun than WoW and they love it. No one's going to quit a game they're having a blast playing.
    mutharex wrote: »
    And the combat was very clunky and lame
    HA! Now that's fist-pounding, pants-peeing hilarious! Unless by clunky you mean skill based, in which case . . . sorry.

  • oxygen_boarderb16_ESO
    Apricot wrote: »
    mutharex wrote: »
    It's not a question of difficulty, is that it's the typical linear wowclone where you just grind through boring levels to get to what?Raiding? No thanks.
    As opposed to grinding through three times the boring levels to get to . . . um . . hmm . . . help me out here . . .
    mutharex wrote: »
    I don't doubt people will like it and play it. Till WoD comes out and they go F2P because all their intended public has gone back to WoW
    That could happen. WoW seems to be changing direction with WOD so who knows? I don't have a crystal ball. But most people playing WS think it's a ton more fun than WoW and they love it. No one's going to quit a game they're having a blast playing.
    mutharex wrote: »
    And the combat was very clunky and lame
    HA! Now that's fist-pounding, pants-peeing hilarious! Unless by clunky you mean skill based, in which case . . . sorry.

    A quick look at the forums tells me that WS will be just like any other MMO. It'll be fun for those who like it, and not so fun for those who don't. To be honest, since I've never played it, and probably won't it looks more gimmicky. IE: Great fun for a few weeks, then you start to lose interest.
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  • nalimoleb14_ESO
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    Haxer wrote: »
    I don't think I'll ever be able to play an MMO again that doesn't have 3rd person shooter mouse control as the default. Nothing makes me feel less immersed than having to choose between using A and D to turn, or holding down the mouse button.

    As silly and/or petty as it might sound, that's actually what killed Wildstar for me (that, and I'm not quite sure what kind of steroid gaming rig can actually run it on ultra with no problem because it was a sputtering mess for me!) But the biggest problem I had was the fact that I'd have to hold down the mouse to change the view/direction I wanted to look at, and I've been spoiled by too many other games which allow you to control your view by just moving your mouse, and then equipping attacks/blocks to your left and right click mouse buttons. That, and I just like more realistic looking MMOs...
  • ErykGrimm
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    Apricot wrote: »
    zeuseason wrote: »
    IMO, Wildstar is a bad MMO. It's pumped on hype of being the next WoW, and granted it's launching with lotsa features, I almost hated playing it with any class combination I tried. The graphics are from the year 2000, the art stye IMO is kiddie lame, and the only draw I had to the game was how cool the developers approached the game. But really, when you get in game......it sucks.

    I'm looking forward to the stupidity of the media upping this game compared to much better games along it's side.

    In my experience people who claim WS sucks haven't played it past level 15 or given the reason because . . . graphics. Most people who actually played WS have a totally different view. To be honest I had no intention of ever stepping foot in that game because of the art style. Finally gave it a shot. The starting areas are indeed "meh" and at first the classes seemed "meh" as well.

    But the thing about WS is the more you level in that game the more intense it becomes. After level 15 things change. After level 30 the game goes into omg-can't-put-it-down-it's-so-fun mode. Classes feel smooth and really well done. Abilities synergize and combat is AWESOME! Once you go into a dungeon or raid? That's it. If you like challenging, reactive, intense and fun content you're hooked. It's the most fun I've had since early WoW. I'm also SUPER impressed with the PvP.

    This is all subjective, of course. If you like doing repetitive questing over and over ESO's your game. If you like endless zerg PvP, you'll enjoy ESO. If you like having access to tons of useless skills and builds, ESO's for you. If you like mindlessly mashing AOE abilities, you'll like ESO. If you like playing one of the two classes that actually make sense and spending hours and hours and hours doing linear quests for pocket change, then you're in the right place.

    If you like DC's, hackers, exploiters, botters, bugs (and more bugs), broken abilities and passives, then you'll love, LOVE ESO. If you think that having to spend weeks and weeks to reach level cap = hard, then you should be playing ESO. If you think this game is at all challenging then by all means, keep playing.

    As for me? On 5/30/14 at 12:01 PDT I'll be logging into WS with a ton of guildies, and you'll never have the pleasure of seeing my face here ever again.





    Bye bye! Make sure to pack clean underwear and brush your teeth every day. *tear. They grow up so fast.
  • mutharex
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    Apricot wrote: »
    mutharex wrote: »
    It's not a question of difficulty, is that it's the typical linear wowclone where you just grind through boring levels to get to what?Raiding? No thanks.
    As opposed to grinding through three times the boring levels to get to . . . um . . hmm . . . help me out here . . .
    mutharex wrote: »
    I don't doubt people will like it and play it. Till WoD comes out and they go F2P because all their intended public has gone back to WoW
    That could happen. WoW seems to be changing direction with WOD so who knows? I don't have a crystal ball. But most people playing WS think it's a ton more fun than WoW and they love it. No one's going to quit a game they're having a blast playing.
    mutharex wrote: »
    And the combat was very clunky and lame
    HA! Now that's fist-pounding, pants-peeing hilarious! Unless by clunky you mean skill based, in which case . . . sorry.

    No, I meant "clunky as only a wowkiddie would like it". But maybe you knew this already.
  • Skillet
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    ...and if you like cartoons, then Wildstar is for you!
  • hk11
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    Apricot wrote: »
    zeuseason wrote: »
    IMO, Wildstar is a bad MMO. It's pumped on hype of being the next WoW, and granted it's launching with lotsa features, I almost hated playing it with any class combination I tried. The graphics are from the year 2000, the art stye IMO is kiddie lame, and the only draw I had to the game was how cool the developers approached the game. But really, when you get in game......it sucks.

    I'm looking forward to the stupidity of the media upping this game compared to much better games along it's side.

    In my experience people who claim WS sucks haven't played it past level 15 or given the reason because . . . graphics. Most people who actually played WS have a totally different view. To be honest I had no intention of ever stepping foot in that game because of the art style. Finally gave it a shot. The starting areas are indeed "meh" and at first the classes seemed "meh" as well.

    But the thing about WS is the more you level in that game the more intense it becomes. After level 15 things change. After level 30 the game goes into omg-can't-put-it-down-it's-so-fun mode. Classes feel smooth and really well done. Abilities synergize and combat is AWESOME! Once you go into a dungeon or raid? That's it. If you like challenging, reactive, intense and fun content you're hooked. It's the most fun I've had since early WoW. I'm also SUPER impressed with the PvP.

    This is all subjective, of course. If you like doing repetitive questing over and over ESO's your game. If you like endless zerg PvP, you'll enjoy ESO. If you like having access to tons of useless skills and builds, ESO's for you. If you like mindlessly mashing AOE abilities, you'll like ESO. If you like playing one of the two classes that actually make sense and spending hours and hours and hours doing linear quests for pocket change, then you're in the right place.

    If you like DC's, hackers, exploiters, botters, bugs (and more bugs), broken abilities and passives, then you'll love, LOVE ESO. If you think that having to spend weeks and weeks to reach level cap = hard, then you should be playing ESO. If you think this game is at all challenging then by all means, keep playing.

    As for me? On 5/30/14 at 12:01 PDT I'll be logging into WS with a ton of guildies, and you'll never have the pleasure of seeing my face here ever again.





    Good to hear. When it comes to MMOs, graphics are not a priority for me. I actually like the graphical style of WoW. I didnt play the WS beta and bought the preorder so I am glad to hear some non-negative about it.

    Edited by hk11 on 29 May 2014 13:59
  • Moiskormoimi
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    I'm with the 'couldn't get into Wildstar' crowd. I only have room for one cartoony mmo and that's WoW. Have no love for it's hell spawn.

    ESO was great 1-50. Vet levels are unrewarding and regurgitated. It's a lazy man's way of trying to extend life to something that wasn't fully developed but pushed out the door. They may fix it before it the ship sinks, they may not. They won't, however, be doing it with my money.



  • GreySix
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    Wildstar reminds me of the last PS3 version of Star Ocean. Looks like it could be fun for a while, but couldn't see paying a subscription to play it.
    Crotchety Old Man Guild

    "Hey you, get off my lawn!"
  • dannymcgr81b14_ESO
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    Has anyone tried Archeage? I just heard about it a few days ago.
  • hk11
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    Has anyone tried Archeage? I just heard about it a few days ago.

    I have looked at it a little. Looks pretty fun in terms of combat. I'm sure I'll give it a go at some point.
  • Azzuria
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    mutharex wrote: »
    I tried WS beta, I couldn't get to level 10 no matter how hard I tried. It's even worse than Allods online. Wowclone with boring quests, grind and clunky hybrid combat

    It's garish, cartoony and kinda mindless.

    Hurt my eyes after a few hours and after ESO's beauty and voice acting, it came across as 'empty calories' and kinda mind-numbing.
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  • D0gstar
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    ". I don't think I'll ever be able to play an MMO again that doesn't have 3rd person shooter mouse control as the default."

    I say amen to that....
  • Gern_Verkheart
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    I personally love ESO. It is everything I want in an MMO. There are clearly plenty of issues that need to be resolved, however. Such as class mechanics and scaling, the lack of an effective auction house, etc. But the basic game is fun, and everything I hoped it would be, and I am confident that Zenimax will deal with all these issues in the coming months.
  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    ...NOT Quitting ESO

    Truly fascinating to know this, but it's just the tip of the ice burg. Are we going to get a series of other posts about things you're NOT doing?

    Not marrying my dog.
    Not eating through my nose.
    Not traveling backward in time and shooting Lassie.

    The possibilities are endless, and now that you've whetted our appetite for what you're not doing, I just have to have more!!!
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  • hk11
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    Azzuria wrote: »
    mutharex wrote: »
    I tried WS beta, I couldn't get to level 10 no matter how hard I tried. It's even worse than Allods online. Wowclone with boring quests, grind and clunky hybrid combat

    It's garish, cartoony and kinda mindless.

    Hurt my eyes after a few hours and after ESO's beauty and voice acting, it came across as 'empty calories' and kinda mind-numbing.

    I haven't played it so I'm really just being hopeful, but I think that voice acting and too much story are not good for MMOs. They are cool with one character, but after that it's pretty boring. That may just be me though. I had the same issue with SWTOR.

    I'm probably in a minority, but some of the most fun I had in MMOs was a mixture of grinding and quests. As long as the combat is fun anyway.
    Edited by hk11 on 29 May 2014 17:49
  • Bromburak
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    Has anyone tried Archeage? I just heard about it a few days ago.

    Yes, old game and very late publishing for NA and Europe.
    They had their chance but missed it big time.
  • InspectorGanja
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    I will keep my subscription

    We wont.. so enjoy a empty game o:) (Speaking for the majority of the people of tamriel foundry)

    Edited by InspectorGanja on 29 May 2014 18:11
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  • daneyulebub17_ESO
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    I will keep my subscription

    We wont.. so enjoy a empty game o:) (Speaking for the majority of the people of tamriel foundry)

    Even if I accepted that you speak for the majority of the people of the tamriel foundry--- How does "the majority of the people" of tamriel foundry not keeping their subscription equate to an empty game?

    Unless...

    OMG!!!

    IS EVERYONE IN THE GAME A MEMBER OF TAMRIEL FOUNDRY???
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    We're sad to see you go now, but we'll be happy to welcome you back at any time! Whenever you're ready to come back, your characters will be waiting for you, just like you left them. You can return anytime by resubscribing on the Manage Subscription page on your Elder Scrolls Online account.

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  • B1oodcrow
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    Wildstar as a F2P is fine but not worth a sub. Once wod comes out WS population will die.
  • Bromburak
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    No worries, people that are not able to speak for themselves only, are in need of some attention and feel hurt. Leave him, he will get over it.
    Edited by Bromburak on 29 May 2014 20:00
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