Nightblade update ?? WHAT ABOUT TEMPLARS ??

TRIP233

P.s and please NERF THE SORC BLINK, [/quote]

In a privous patch a few weeks ago ZOS nerfed Mist Form on the vamp tree, making it slower. They clamed that it was to match the speed of the Sorc blink. That's not true though Sorc blink is still faster. It needs a nerf or Mist Form needs some love and restored in speed to match that of the Sorc blink.

Nickdorlandb16_ESO

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TRIP233 wrote: »

P.s and please NERF THE SORC BLINK,

In a privous patch a few weeks ago ZOS nerfed Mist Form on the vamp tree, making it slower. They clamed that it was to match the speed of the Sorc blink. That's not true though Sorc blink is still faster. It needs a nerf or Mist Form needs some love and restored in speed to match that of the Sorc blink. [/quote]

They both need to be deleted or make the sorc blink not 4x, but 2x blink.. So its used to confuse people, not to troll people to the freaking MAX

anakaki

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

Lets put it this way.... we can outheal any class in the game at endgame...... Do you really think it would be fair if we were on par DPS with other builds and outhealed them? why would anyone play other builds?

Remember vanilla wow holy paladins? They could *** on people while perma healing themselves. That was just dumb. Then they got nerfed to where their DPS wasn't4 so great as holy.

In this game you could 50/50 all skills and have everything at once.... it just wouldnt work.

Your missing the point. Sorc can heal through trials without a sweat AND do triple the dps templars can. Do you see where I'm going with this?

Tankqull

monkeymystic wrote: »

It's funny how Templars whine how "weak" they are, with "zero" magicka regen.
Yet the cry that DKs are op.

Guess what, DKs dont have magicka regen either, they used Elemental Drain before and they have to use Spirit Siphon now. Without they run out instant.

Maybe Templars one day learn to do the same?
Atleast I know I have no magicka issues on my own Templar.

compared to DKs magicka aint an issue thats right, both do have currently comparable "awfull" class inherent refill but once you lvl that changes massively
but compared to DKs templars miss:
1st and in my eyes one of the most powerfull differenting abilitys battle roar -> no equivalant
2nd inferno - no equivalent = no perma dmg vs enemys wich becomes better the more enemys you face especially in combination with siphon.
3rd 15sec of fumble increasement for 60base magica DK vs 4sec for 53 wich aswell only lasts for one fumbled attack...
4th reflective scale vs eclipse || all spell attacks fired at the DK for 53mana vs 1effected caster for 60
5. standart vs nova 17sec vs 8, 40+%more dmg per tic from standart, 200 vs 300 ultimate required

and so on... DK abilities are plain superior and cost less while the DK still has by far superior mana replenish via battle roar.

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

I have 37% spell crit that works for heals and dps.(Inner Light, 5%lightarmour, 5%set bonus 2%from passive) Can your sorc drop a 2k dmg bomb on someone and follow it up with an ultimate for an instant kill?

i must be missing sth but wich of our abilities beside backlash(<200dps under best circumstances) does more than 1k dmg?

Nickdorlandb16_ESO

tankqullb16_ESO wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

It's funny how Templars whine how "weak" they are, with "zero" magicka regen.
Yet the cry that DKs are op.

Guess what, DKs dont have magicka regen either, they used Elemental Drain before and they have to use Spirit Siphon now. Without they run out instant.

Maybe Templars one day learn to do the same?
Atleast I know I have no magicka issues on my own Templar.

compared to DKs magicka aint an issue thats right, both do have currently comparable "awfull" class inherent refill but once you lvl that changes massively
but compared to DKs templars miss:
1st and in my eyes one of the most powerfull differenting abilitys battle roar -> no equivalant
2nd inferno - no equivalent = no perma dmg vs enemys wich becomes better the more enemys you face especially in combination with siphon.
3rd 15sec of fumble increasement for 60base magica DK vs 4sec for 53 wich aswell only lasts for one fumbled attack...
4th reflective scale vs eclipse || all spell attacks fired at the DK for 53mana vs 1effected caster for 60
5. standart vs nova 17sec vs 8, 40+%more dmg per tic from standart, 200 vs 300 ultimate required

and so on... DK abilities are plain superior and cost less while the DK still has by far superior mana replenish via battle roar.

ExiledKhallisi wrote: »

I have 37% spell crit that works for heals and dps.(Inner Light, 5%lightarmour, 5%set bonus 2%from passive) Can your sorc drop a 2k dmg bomb on someone and follow it up with an ultimate for an instant kill?

i must be missing sth but wich of our abilities beside backlash(<200dps under best circumstances) does more than 1k dmg?

Finnaly someone with deeper toughts about this. You are exactly right, we maybe need to forward this to ZoS in a ticket or somthing, because i dont feel they are looking in to this

Thechemicals

I thought this was the hook for the games design....you can be anything and w/e class you pick is not limited to tank/heal/dps. Oh the irony...

davidetombab16_ESO

the total absence of the devs is a shame

AlexDougherty

davidetombab16_ESO wrote: »

the total absence of the devs is a shame

Devs don't post!
Moderator's sometimes post, so here's hoping.

ZakyUchiha

I already rolled a sorc, because of this BS.

the.dzeneralb16_ESO

As a nightblade, PvPing isn't as bad if you put down mark of death on your skill bars. My build has always been build around Mark of death>ambush (that morph from telleporting strike)>rest of combo. Generally I do well in pvp

PVE on the other hand is another story. I had to level resto staff just to be able to do things in the trials and vet dungeos. Lets be honest Sorcerers and DK's pull ridiculous dps in comparison to NB's (I cant speak for templars as I do not play one).

Jimm_ay

Sorcs have better magicka recovery...out of magicka? dark exchange...poof healthy and ready to roll. Temps have better aoe and remove negative effects but since all of the powers require magicka you are worthless when you run out...it is a lot more active management on a templar healer and if your group has people who can't dodge or don't have build to sustain them while you are down then people die and blame you as a sucky healer.

Shaun98ca2

ZakyUchiha wrote: »

I already rolled a sorc, because of this BS.

I think a LOT of people are going to be in for a HUGE surprise when ...

1. NightBlades get "fixed" but are no stronger than Templars.

2. DK/Sorcs get their OP builds Nerfed and brought into line with Templars and NightBlades.


Why do you think they HAVENT buffed Templars up to DK/Sorcs power yet? But instead are nerfting Bitting Jabs.

I saw somewhere posted by a mod that VR content isn't meant to be soloed. So a Templar struggling with 3 mobs makes sense. A DK/Sorc facerolling 20 mobs(exaggerating) at a time without ever losing health is OBVIOUSLY not what they had in mind.

Why haven't they fix DK/Sorcs yet because its really not that big a of a deal a percentage of people are simply playing "OP" builds, while the rest of the community is playing as they are supposed to.

There will always be those people looking for something broken to abuse and it just takes time to fix everything.

Nickdorlandb16_ESO

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

ZakyUchiha wrote: »

I already rolled a sorc, because of this BS.

I think a LOT of people are going to be in for a HUGE surprise when ...

1. NightBlades get "fixed" but are no stronger than Templars.

2. DK/Sorcs get their OP builds Nerfed and brought into line with Templars and NightBlades.


Why do you think they HAVENT buffed Templars up to DK/Sorcs power yet? But instead are nerfting Bitting Jabs.

I saw somewhere posted by a mod that VR content isn't meant to be soloed. So a Templar struggling with 3 mobs makes sense. A DK/Sorc facerolling 20 mobs(exaggerating) at a time without ever losing health is OBVIOUSLY not what they had in mind.

Why haven't they fix DK/Sorcs yet because its really not that big a of a deal a percentage of people are simply playing "OP" builds, while the rest of the community is playing as they are supposed to.

There will always be those people looking for something broken to abuse and it just takes time to fix everything.

This does make sense

dcincali

Nickdorlandb16_ESO wrote: »

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

ZakyUchiha wrote: »

I already rolled a sorc, because of this BS.

I think a LOT of people are going to be in for a HUGE surprise when ...

1. NightBlades get "fixed" but are no stronger than Templars.

2. DK/Sorcs get their OP builds Nerfed and brought into line with Templars and NightBlades.


Why do you think they HAVENT buffed Templars up to DK/Sorcs power yet? But instead are nerfting Bitting Jabs.

I saw somewhere posted by a mod that VR content isn't meant to be soloed. So a Templar struggling with 3 mobs makes sense. A DK/Sorc facerolling 20 mobs(exaggerating) at a time without ever losing health is OBVIOUSLY not what they had in mind.

Why haven't they fix DK/Sorcs yet because its really not that big a of a deal a percentage of people are simply playing "OP" builds, while the rest of the community is playing as they are supposed to.

There will always be those people looking for something broken to abuse and it just takes time to fix everything.

This does make sense

What doesn't make any sense is the fact that levels 1-50 you are almost forced to solo due to the horrible grouping/separate instances (everyone must be on the same part of a quest) developed by the game and then at vr1 you are forced to group to take on the content. Is this a solo game or a group game?

Nox_Aeterna

dcincali wrote: »

Nickdorlandb16_ESO wrote: »

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

ZakyUchiha wrote: »

I already rolled a sorc, because of this BS.

I think a LOT of people are going to be in for a HUGE surprise when ...

1. NightBlades get "fixed" but are no stronger than Templars.

2. DK/Sorcs get their OP builds Nerfed and brought into line with Templars and NightBlades.


Why do you think they HAVENT buffed Templars up to DK/Sorcs power yet? But instead are nerfting Bitting Jabs.

I saw somewhere posted by a mod that VR content isn't meant to be soloed. So a Templar struggling with 3 mobs makes sense. A DK/Sorc facerolling 20 mobs(exaggerating) at a time without ever losing health is OBVIOUSLY not what they had in mind.

Why haven't they fix DK/Sorcs yet because its really not that big a of a deal a percentage of people are simply playing "OP" builds, while the rest of the community is playing as they are supposed to.

There will always be those people looking for something broken to abuse and it just takes time to fix everything.

This does make sense

What doesn't make any sense is the fact that levels 1-50 you are almost forced to solo due to the horrible grouping/separate instances (everyone must be on the same part of a quest) developed by the game and then at vr1 you are forced to group to take on the content. Is this a solo game or a group game?

Actually vr1 if you keep doing quests , you will still face the same locked solo quests you had 1/50 , so yeah , it is still a "solo" way to lvl.

Which changes when you reach vet 10 and goes to craglorn , and thus now is forced to group :P.

Tamanous

What does NO have to do with Templar? Make your own thread and keep other classes out of it. NP has been broken longer than Templar. Every class can be looked at independently and in turn.

One Two

lol NB been bust up since beta, your class JUST now got a nerf, its not broken.

>_> ppl these days...

Ragekniv

One Two wrote: »

lol NB been bust up since beta, your class JUST now got a nerf, its not broken.

>_> ppl these days...

Templar resource management was shattered in Beta. No other class can complain of resource management being taken completely away.

Have you played a Templar? Try it, try it in VR content.

Last time I checked, NBs and Templars were both the least desirable of the four classes.

Sorcs and DKs are face rolling through VR content. They need to be balanced hard and soon!

Solo or grouped it doesn't matter. NBs and Templars will still be kicking rocks on the edges of the playground.

Meanwhile, OP Sorcs and DKs continue to bully their way saying L2P and "Don't look at us... nothing to see here... no need to nerf the OP!"

SilverWF

Nickdorlandb16_ESO wrote: »

P.s and please NERF THE SORC BLINK,

No way.

Darrett

One Two wrote: »

lol NB been bust up since beta, your class JUST now got a nerf, its not broken.

>_> ppl these days...

No, we just got the crutch kicked out from under us. I play a Templar, NB and DK at VR, and the NB is much easier to do well with than the Templar for general questing. Neither comes close to the DK of course, even though he's a 1H stamina build.