To those who think the game is too hard

zaria

Hilgara wrote: »

lol, at all the Eu players commenting before they have even played 1.1.2 Read the forums people. Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with the patch. Its not just a bit harder. Vet normal trash mobs have more health and do more damage than Craglone bosses. Someone f**ked up.

As I have read normal mob at least in high level veteran is harder then the VR11-12 mob in Craglone they are also harder than the one dot named bosses in the VR7-10 zone. As I understand one dot bosses is supposed to be soloable but hard.

I'm only VR2 but I don't think veteran before patch was much harder than level 50.
And yes quests are designed to be done solo in ESO, world bosses, dungeons and anchors are not.

Cogo

nopressure wrote: »

In my modest experience with groups im dissapointed how ppl play. Why? Everybody rushing. Every area feels same because of rush, that ruins immersion, you cant gather anything, you have no time for quest dialoges, unbelievable how ppl can play like that!? I slow pace player, i admit, because i cant enjoy game otherwise, so my question, am i alone like that? How could i find proper group for me especially in VR lvl areas? i feel doomed..
Sorry if i offend someone, just want to express my pain.

I agree completely. I feel sorry for these people who are Veteran level 5 or something already. They MUST have missed at least half the game, or used addons to speed things up.

Also, ESO was VERY (hell you can read for yourself) specific that the new zone isnt even for Veteran rank 1...but groups cause it gets really dangerous in there.

And for the Cyrodiil NPC. They said they where going to raise them to what was it....veteran lvl 5? So it make sense. You need a small raid now to kill the NPC, which they also fixed in this new 4 weeks or 3 weeks version of campaign?

YES, its true, I am in EU and have yet to play it. BUT, after hours of browsing these forums, I found 1...just ONE clear problem with this patch. Apperently you can loose quests when you zone into some dungeons. THATS a big bug and as most of us who been around longer then WoW knows, the bigger the patch, the more emergency patches.

I feel bad for those who dont listen or read the quest dialogs. They really are good! And I even found one where when I listened to the old ladys boring tale....and it wasnt a quest. I got a skill point when I was done listening!

I wonder how many over lvl 50 even know that excisted.

And, just cause a new cool HIGH END content is released, doesnt mean you beat it on day one, unless you are The guild Conquest or Fires of Heaven ;-)

Takes time, gear, learning more. And I am sorry if this offends anyone, but if you dont want to group with people. preferbly the same people and FAIL, before you even start to advance.....then ESO might not be for you....

ESO promised high end content. They also promised it to be very challenging....

The quest bug must be fixed. Anything else then "waaaaaahhh to hard first time I tried something that is new in the game where I should have a group"....erhm. How did those people make it to 50? Solo?

Cogo

Hilgara wrote: »

lol, at all the Eu players commenting before they have even played 1.1.2 Read the forums people. Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with the patch. Its not just a bit harder. Vet normal trash mobs have more health and do more damage than Craglone bosses. Someone f**ked up.

Hi

Could you please help me to understand what has gone wrong, other then the quest loosing bug?

That mobs in both cyro and the new zone was gonna be to hard even for a group of vet lvl 10 at first, is no news.....thats what they promised! Ok, maybe its to hard. If it is, I am sure they will balance it. Do you have any other specific thing thats broken/wrong in this patch?

I really like to know.

BrassRazoo

Cogo wrote: »

Hilgara wrote: »

lol, at all the Eu players commenting before they have even played 1.1.2 Read the forums people. Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with the patch. Its not just a bit harder. Vet normal trash mobs have more health and do more damage than Craglone bosses. Someone f**ked up.

Hi

Could you please help me to understand what has gone wrong, other then the quest loosing bug?

That mobs in both cyro and the new zone was gonna be to hard even for a group of vet lvl 10 at first, is no news.....thats what they promised! Ok, maybe its to hard. If it is, I am sure they will balance it. Do you have any other specific thing thats broken/wrong in this patch?

I really like to know.

Try looking in the same Forum you are posting in.

Vlaxitov

Cogo wrote: »

The quest bug must be fixed. Anything else then "waaaaaahhh to hard first time I tried something that is new in the game where I should have a group"....erhm. How did those people make it to 50? Solo?

If they haven't changed something by tomorrow after I get off work I'd like to come observe you own it up in a faction VR zone to get some pointers.

Cogo

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

Mate , that is so not gonna happen hehehe.

I did expect the need to group in craglorn , so there it is fine.

But if zen tries to apply this to all the vr zones , then i have better to do.

You have such a good gift with words my friend. I just wish you tried to look at not just the bad stuff.

I'll group with you if you want, when I get high lvl enough:-p

AngryNord

Shta wrote: »

and do quests together.

And then Discover that the majority of these quests are the Main Quest and the Fighters/Mages Guild quests, WHICH CANNOT BE GROUPED. And then cancel sub.

jdroebuckb16_ESO

Shta wrote: »

EDIT: For transparency, heh even I got it wrong. It is Massively so I edited 'Massive' to 'Massively'

I wasn't going to say anything but this was almost up for "ironic post of the year" award until you made your edit. Now it probably gets runner up.

zaria

Cogo wrote: »

nopressure wrote: »

In my modest experience with groups im dissapointed how ppl play. Why? Everybody rushing. Every area feels same because of rush, that ruins immersion, you cant gather anything, you have no time for quest dialoges, unbelievable how ppl can play like that!? I slow pace player, i admit, because i cant enjoy game otherwise, so my question, am i alone like that? How could i find proper group for me especially in VR lvl areas? i feel doomed..
Sorry if i offend someone, just want to express my pain.

I agree completely. I feel sorry for these people who are Veteran level 5 or something already. They MUST have missed at least half the game, or used addons to speed things up.

Also, ESO was VERY (hell you can read for yourself) specific that the new zone isnt even for Veteran rank 1...but groups cause it gets really dangerous in there.

And for the Cyrodiil NPC. They said they where going to raise them to what was it....veteran lvl 5? So it make sense. You need a small raid now to kill the NPC, which they also fixed in this new 4 weeks or 3 weeks version of campaign?

YES, its true, I am in EU and have yet to play it. BUT, after hours of browsing these forums, I found 1...just ONE clear problem with this patch. Apperently you can loose quests when you zone into some dungeons. THATS a big bug and as most of us who been around longer then WoW knows, the bigger the patch, the more emergency patches.

I feel bad for those who dont listen or read the quest dialogs. They really are good! And I even found one where when I listened to the old ladys boring tale....and it wasnt a quest. I got a skill point when I was done listening!

I wonder how many over lvl 50 even know that excisted.

And, just cause a new cool HIGH END content is released, doesnt mean you beat it on day one, unless you are The guild Conquest or Fires of Heaven ;-)

Takes time, gear, learning more. And I am sorry if this offends anyone, but if you dont want to group with people. preferbly the same people and FAIL, before you even start to advance.....then ESO might not be for you....

ESO promised high end content. They also promised it to be very challenging....

The quest bug must be fixed. Anything else then "waaaaaahhh to hard first time I tried something that is new in the game where I should have a group"....erhm. How did those people make it to 50? Solo?

I'm VR2, I have done all quests up to VR1, all skyshards, listened to or at least read dialogue, all the dungeons and some days with PvP, had I had more time to play I would be VR5 with the current play style.

before this update I did not find VR1 hard at least not outside the four man dungeons who are pretty brutal.
However as I understand in 1.1.2 normal mobs at least in the VR5-10 zones not only have more health and hit harder than the VR11-12 in the new endgame content but also harder than one dot bosses in the VR5-10,
Had the opposite been true it would be ok, the VR11-12 mob its as VR10 one dot bosses as its supposed too be for groups only.

Soothy

jdroebuckb16_ESO wrote: »

Shta wrote: »

EDIT: For transparency, heh even I got it wrong. It is Massively so I edited 'Massive' to 'Massively'

I wasn't going to say anything but this was almost up for "ironic post of the year" award until you made your edit. Now it probably gets runner up.

I know, hence my transparency but it didn't touch the real message of my post. Massive, massively; at least that is (pretty much) the same thing!

PBpsy

Cogo wrote: »

Hilgara wrote: »

lol, at all the Eu players commenting before they have even played 1.1.2 Read the forums people. Something is SERIOUSLY wrong with the patch. Its not just a bit harder. Vet normal trash mobs have more health and do more damage than Craglone bosses. Someone f**ked up.

Hi

Could you please help me to understand what has gone wrong, other then the quest loosing bug?

That mobs in both cyro and the new zone was gonna be to hard even for a group of vet lvl 10 at first, is no news.....thats what they promised! Ok, maybe its to hard. If it is, I am sure they will balance it. Do you have any other specific thing thats broken/wrong in this patch?

I really like to know.

What happened? In the NA server is now almost impossible to level from rank 7 to 10 outside of Craglorn. That's what happened.

kirnmalidus

Cogo wrote: »

You have such a good gift with words my friend. I just wish you tried to look at not just the bad stuff.

I'll group with you if you want, when I get high lvl enough:-p

This isn't an issue of grouping or not. You shouldn't need to group to walk in the open world, and with this update you basically do now in the vet zones.

You say "when I get high lvl enough" which implies you currently aren't in the vet zones. If you didn't fight mobs in vet zones last night and deal with the buffed mobs after this update, you have no place in this conversation as you do not understand the problem.

Kohd1999

All these claims from people saying trash world mobs have more health and hit harder than bosses (one guy said Craglorn bosses?) are not speaking from experience. I actually would love to know what percentage of people commenting on VR content have actually experienced the new patch in VR1-10 themselves or are they jumping on the bandwagon and spreading these rumors?

Been out in VR1-2 on my VR2 sorc, been out in VR6-10 on my VR10 Nightblade...little difference at all. Mobs do have more health and do hit a bit harder, but these ridiculous claims of them being anywhere near boss difficulty, or that its too hard, are just not true. Sorry that you might not be able to AE farm 5+ mobs at a time anymore while in veteran content (betting some builds still can), but 1-3 mobs on a nightblade or sorc seems perfectly fine to me.

Big_O

Kohd1999 wrote: »

All these claims from people saying trash world mobs have more health and hit harder than bosses (one guy said Craglorn bosses?) are not speaking from experience. I actually would love to know what percentage of people commenting on VR content have actually experienced the new patch in VR1-10 themselves or are they jumping on the bandwagon and spreading these rumors?

Been out in VR1-2 on my VR2 sorc, been out in VR6-10 on my VR10 Nightblade...little difference at all. Mobs do have more health and do hit a bit harder, but these ridiculous claims of them being anywhere near boss difficulty, or that its too hard, are just not true. Sorry that you might not be able to AE farm 5+ mobs at a time anymore while in veteran content (betting some builds still can), but 1-3 mobs on a nightblade or sorc seems perfectly fine to me.

Here you go. I was 1 shot killed by a tiger in the vet7 area while wearing medium purple armor. Nothing could have prepared for a hit this hard. My health was slightly above 2400.
http://i57.tinypic.com/2njfuc6.jpg

LariahHunding

Kohd1999 wrote: »

All these claims from people saying trash world mobs have more health and hit harder than bosses (one guy said Craglorn bosses?) are not speaking from experience. I actually would love to know what percentage of people commenting on VR content have actually experienced the new patch in VR1-10 themselves or are they jumping on the bandwagon and spreading these rumors?

Been out in VR1-2 on my VR2 sorc, been out in VR6-10 on my VR10 Nightblade...little difference at all. Mobs do have more health and do hit a bit harder, but these ridiculous claims of them being anywhere near boss difficulty, or that its too hard, are just not true. Sorry that you might not be able to AE farm 5+ mobs at a time anymore while in veteran content (betting some builds still can), but 1-3 mobs on a nightblade or sorc seems perfectly fine to me.

You are the exception not the rule.

VR-3 Greenshade here and the game is almost unplayable for normal, solo content.

makkon

Big_O wrote: »

Here you go. I was 1 shot killed by a tiger in the vet7 area while wearing medium purple armor. Nothing could have prepared for a hit this hard. My health was slightly above 2400.
http://i57.tinypic.com/2njfuc6.jpg

yday, before patch I actually being killed by tiger with same oneshot (combat log show 3000 single hit). so dunno

Zxaxz

tilolyen_ESO wrote: »

I have never seen so many tools in one thread. MMO's should be hard? LOL ok.....and L2P.....big surprise there. The lot of you need to get off your n00b island and go where the big boys play VR5+ zones and come back here and post about how awesome sauce you are.

http://www.twitch.tv/iamepitaph/b/531230213

V7 DW/Bow/Vamp NB - 1 hour after patch - 1 Bar - 5 skills - 1 Ult - SOLO V7 Public dungeon group mobs, Boss and all.

Adapt, learn to play your class, not just abuse Shield Bash Spam or Talon Spam, and maybe you could fight a single/group V7 Mob too.

I bet I get people saying but, that's a NB cookie cutter build. its 5 of the most basic NB skills there are, if you don't have these 5 or close skills unlocked as a V5+ NB you are.....well, never mind, You should not be playing a NB anyway, re-roll or play an easier game.....

Also if it's that hard fill Bar 2 w/ CC and heals.

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Kohd1999

Are any of you that say you are being 1 shot in PvE (and aren't in terrible gear) on Daggerfall? The only thing I can think of is that this is only an issue with AD or EP. Because on DC, none of the people in my three 500 man guilds say PvE is much harder now after the patch. I have been to the VR1-2 and 6-10 zones earlier, and now I finished looking at the VR4 and 5 zones trying to find the supposed impossible PvE...to no avail.

Valerien

Generally people that say a game is too easy and then list their amazing achievements are either lying or forgetting the 100's of times they died to the same mobs they are claiming to best so easily.

Secondly anyone that is fortunate enough not to need to work for a living will find their experience is vastly different from other people. If I've had to pull a 16 hour work day my idea of fun is not getting owned by trash mobs. Its to gloriously defeat my foes and save the princess. Crazy I know but grinding out for 10 hours to get the gear I need to fight some basic solo quests isn't what I want to do. Nor is spend ages looking for people to group with if I'm not looking to be social.

Most importantly this game is far far far from balanced. There are some classes that are better than others, some skill lines and some racial abilities that are superior to the other ones. So a challenging experience for the uber build maybe down right impossible for the in serious need of some dev love build. Personally I would prefer the difficulty was set to allow the least powerful build to have fun and the uber build to be well uber. Than for the difficulty to be set to be challenging for the fotm and impossible for anyone that believed the hype of play your way.

nickster2112b16_ESO

Vet 10 EP Full Purple pact Heavy set purple glyphs + yellow vet 10 sword/board and restro staff fighting a group of 2 Vet 7 mobs takes all of my magicka and stamina pools and leaves me with 200 or less hp thats not right groups of 3 are no chance.
this isnt a learn to play issue either ive been playing since feburary.

Kohd1999

Valerien wrote: »

Generally people that say a game is too easy and then list their amazing achievements are either lying or forgetting the 100's of times they died to the same mobs they are claiming to best so easily.

and stuff

Yep, you're right. There are no players that are actually better at games than you. Everyone is the same. Those who find content too easy are liars or ... forgetful?

If you aren't looking to be social as you say, then don't play MMORPGs. So many anti-social, self-entitled people nowadays making these games so pitifully dull. There are many, many MMOs which cater to the crowd of people who don't want a challenge. Why does every last one of these games need to cater to people who supposedly 'work 16 hours a day and don't want to be social'?

Zxaxz

Zxaxz wrote: »

tilolyen_ESO wrote: »

I have never seen so many tools in one thread. MMO's should be hard? LOL ok.....and L2P.....big surprise there. The lot of you need to get off your n00b island and go where the big boys play VR5+ zones and come back here and post about how awesome sauce you are.

http://www.twitch.tv/iamepitaph/b/531230213

V7 DW/Bow/Vamp NB - 1 hour after patch - 1 Bar - 5 skills - 1 Ult - SOLO V7 Public dungeon group mobs, Boss and all.

Adapt, learn to play your class, not just abuse Shield Bash Spam or Talon Spam, and maybe you could fight a single V7 Mob too.

nickster2112b16_ESO wrote: »

Vet 10 EP Full Purple pact Heavy set purple glyphs + yellow vet 10 sword/board and restro staff fighting a group of 2 Vet 7 mobs takes all of my magicka and stamina pools and leaves me with 200 or less hp thats not right groups of 3 are no chance.
this isnt a learn to play issue either ive been playing since feburary.

Well, then post a video of your game play and lets see whats wrong? Why are you dying, is it the Mobs, do you make mistakes, use the wrong skills or NO CC? Let's see why you fail at fighting two mobs.
If you watch my unedited video above, where I was overly nervious, being my 1st ever Public video. I [snip] up 10 times at least and only died when I tabbed the wrong mob and [snip] up my rotation on 3 mobs, IN THE WHOLE DUNGEON, SOLO. SOLO V7 DW/Bow/Vamp NB SOLO V7 Public Dungeons 1 hour after patch. 1 Bar- 5 skills - 1 Ult and it's easy, peasy, nice and easy.

Maybe, just maybe, it is you and the way you play, lets see?

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McDoogs

tedious != difficult

The game's tedious as all hell VR1-12 (I have a Vr10 NB and VR7 DK)

Calgrissom

Cogo wrote: »

nopressure wrote: »

In my modest experience with groups im dissapointed how ppl play. Why? Everybody rushing. Every area feels same because of rush, that ruins immersion, you cant gather anything, you have no time for quest dialoges, unbelievable how ppl can play like that!? I slow pace player, i admit, because i cant enjoy game otherwise, so my question, am i alone like that? How could i find proper group for me especially in VR lvl areas? i feel doomed..
Sorry if i offend someone, just want to express my pain.

I agree completely. I feel sorry for these people who are Veteran level 5 or something already. They MUST have missed at least half the game, or used addons to speed things up.

Also, ESO was VERY (hell you can read for yourself) specific that the new zone isnt even for Veteran rank 1...but groups cause it gets really dangerous in there.

And for the Cyrodiil NPC. They said they where going to raise them to what was it....veteran lvl 5? So it make sense. You need a small raid now to kill the NPC, which they also fixed in this new 4 weeks or 3 weeks version of campaign?

YES, its true, I am in EU and have yet to play it. BUT, after hours of browsing these forums, I found 1...just ONE clear problem with this patch. Apperently you can loose quests when you zone into some dungeons. THATS a big bug and as most of us who been around longer then WoW knows, the bigger the patch, the more emergency patches.

I feel bad for those who dont listen or read the quest dialogs. They really are good! And I even found one where when I listened to the old ladys boring tale....and it wasnt a quest. I got a skill point when I was done listening!

I wonder how many over lvl 50 even know that excisted.

And, just cause a new cool HIGH END content is released, doesnt mean you beat it on day one, unless you are The guild Conquest or Fires of Heaven ;-)

Takes time, gear, learning more. And I am sorry if this offends anyone, but if you dont want to group with people. preferbly the same people and FAIL, before you even start to advance.....then ESO might not be for you....

ESO promised high end content. They also promised it to be very challenging....

The quest bug must be fixed. Anything else then "waaaaaahhh to hard first time I tried something that is new in the game where I should have a group"....erhm. How did those people make it to 50? Solo?

HI I'm vet rank 10 have been for over a week. I have completed every quest from lvl 1 to v9 minus maybe 5-6 bugged ones. I've also completed every solo dungeon, world boss, public dungeon and have done all group dungeon in vet and non vet content. Before you spout out things like "people rushed to get there" know what your talking about. The only content I haven't finshed is the V10 zone and only because im using the quest to level weapon sets I didn't level from 1-v10

Im married have kids and a full time job. If your leveling so slow your doing something wrong or just haven't been playing the game since release.

Kohd1999

nickster2112b16_ESO wrote: »

Vet 10 EP Full Purple pact Heavy set purple glyphs + yellow vet 10 sword/board and restro staff fighting a group of 2 Vet 7 mobs takes all of my magicka and stamina pools and leaves me with 200 or less hp thats not right groups of 3 are no chance.
this isnt a learn to play issue either ive been playing since feburary.

One from EP. Considering how easy PvE still is on DC, this has got to be an EP or AD bug.

nickster2112b16_ESO

i dont have time to make a video at the min but yeah maybe its just the way i play i musta unlearned how to fight 2 vet 7 mobs overnight also there's multiple threads and people complaining of the same problems.

Zxaxz

nickster2112b16_ESO wrote: »

i dont have time to make a video at the min but yeah maybe its just the way i play i musta unlearned how to fight 2 vet 7 mobs overnight also there's multiple threads and people complaining of the same problems.

Well, once again if a V7 NB can solo V7 dungeons and World Bosses how can not every class be able too, easily. I mean according to EVERYBODY on the forums we (NB's) are the worst, weakest, most broke class in the game, and I waltz over everything in the game, even after yesterday patch. Watch the Video, and give me an answer, please? Again DW/Bow Vamp and I only use my Bow bar in PvP, never even switch to it for CC or heals in the entire fight, not one CC or heal from bar 2. I mean come on it's child's play.

necrolineage

I'm wondering what the game director is smoking, really strong stuff to make those décisions.

Still too much bugs and the game is now almost unplayable for V1-9...

EU server here broken by this bull**it patch.

This is a nice move to make the rest of your players leave the game !

nickster2112b16_ESO

look i dont care if you can do it or not im on thread complaining about the difficulty ppl are having with Vet content since the patch of which im also experiencing . You telling me you can do it does not help in the least bit go away and troll somewhere else and leave this thread to the ppl that want an answer to why it so difficult afteer the patch.

Zxaxz

nickster2112b16_ESO wrote: »

look i dont care if you can do it or not im on thread complaining about the difficulty ppl are having with Vet content since the patch of which im also experiencing . You telling me you can do it does not help in the least bit go away and troll somewhere else and leave this thread to the ppl that want an answer to why it so difficult afteer the patch.

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