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Should patch 1.1.2 be rolled back?

  • Epo
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    Gwarok wrote: »
    Should patch 1.1.2 be rolled back?

    Two Words:

    Hot

    and

    Fix



    Two more Words:


    Server (PVP NA)

    and


    Shutdown

    and one word more

    asap
  • Gwarok
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    I have no issues with the latest patch
    Epo wrote: »
    Gwarok wrote: »
    Epo wrote: »
    Gwarok wrote: »
    Epo wrote: »
    Gwarok wrote: »
    Should patch 1.1.2 be rolled back?

    Two Words:

    Hot

    and

    Fix



    Two more Words:


    Server (PVP NA)

    and


    Shutdown

    and one word more

    asap



    Boy, the bait and troll trolls sure are quick on the responses tonite.
    Edited by Gwarok on 23 May 2014 06:04
    "Strive for balance of all things. When the scales tip to one side or the other, someone or somethings gets short-changed. When someone gets short-changed, unpredictability and strife unbalance the world around us...To achieve freedom from greed, from want, and from strife, all parties in any exchange MUST find balance." -House Hlaalu's Philosophy of Trade

    "I am ALWAYS very busy, so I KNOW what's best. You need to stay away from the waterfall. TRUST ME, you're better off keeping busy than playing in the stream....Do you know how to swim, Little Scrib?"

    "I am but a simple farmer". -Rags'nar LodesBroke

    #SKOOMA!

    (Juliet):
    ...it is nor hand, nor foot,
    Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
    Belonging to a man.
    O, be some other name!
    What's in a name?
    That which we call a rose?
    By any other name would smell as sweet.
    Retain that dear perfection to which he owes...
    (Act II, Scene II -William Shakespeare's: Romeo & Juliet -1595 A.D.)



  • KhajiitiLizard
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    Yes
    Jaybles wrote: »
    Well there is no ideal way to fix it. But the idea that rolling back the patch is gonna solve problems is even further from the correct path. What would be better is just send out an emergency patch to fix things in dire need of fixing the rest can be done with the weekly patches.

    What people forget is if they roll-back the patch you'll loose all the progress you made since then as well on your characters and this will probably always be the case even if you've not set foot in Craglorn or other new content. It's a double edged blade.

    What progress? With the current state of VR difficulty the only thing I have accomplished is dying every 2 minutes.
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Too much damage has been done, regardless of resolution.
    @Gwarok‌

    ...no just bored. Waiting for EUROZONE to go live. Time to go make some toast in the meantime.
    Edited by TheGrandAlliance on 23 May 2014 06:05
    Indeed it is so...
  • Silverblade
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    Too much damage has been done, regardless of resolution.
    Damage has been done imo. The numerous amount of issues released with this "patch" just screams incompetence. Even more frustrating is the complete lack of communication from ZOS regarding this. It's like release week all over again. Am I paying for a premium service here, or just to be your beta tester?
    Unsubbed.
    You have 4 days of game time remaining.
  • Gwarok
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    I have no issues with the latest patch
    @Gwarok‌

    ...no just bored. Waiting for EUROZONE to go live. Time to go make some toast in the meantime.

    I do wish y'all in the EUROZONE the best of luck and hope your launch goes smoother than ours did.
    Edited by Gwarok on 23 May 2014 06:06
    "Strive for balance of all things. When the scales tip to one side or the other, someone or somethings gets short-changed. When someone gets short-changed, unpredictability and strife unbalance the world around us...To achieve freedom from greed, from want, and from strife, all parties in any exchange MUST find balance." -House Hlaalu's Philosophy of Trade

    "I am ALWAYS very busy, so I KNOW what's best. You need to stay away from the waterfall. TRUST ME, you're better off keeping busy than playing in the stream....Do you know how to swim, Little Scrib?"

    "I am but a simple farmer". -Rags'nar LodesBroke

    #SKOOMA!

    (Juliet):
    ...it is nor hand, nor foot,
    Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
    Belonging to a man.
    O, be some other name!
    What's in a name?
    That which we call a rose?
    By any other name would smell as sweet.
    Retain that dear perfection to which he owes...
    (Act II, Scene II -William Shakespeare's: Romeo & Juliet -1595 A.D.)



  • Jaybles
    Jaybles
    No
    What progress? With the current state of VR difficulty the only thing I have accomplished is dying every 2 minutes.

    Yeah, but other people who just/still play regular content (or are leveling up) did make progress so all the people who didn't experience any problems with the patch will be rolled back as well and that not fair to them either.
  • david271749
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    I have no issues with the latest patch
    I haven't been on since yesterday, but I'll vote later. Honestly, I don't even care at this point. I'm riding out my naively purchased six month subscription. Just waiting for that miracle hail mary pass to raise this thing from the grave. I used to play about two to four hours a day. Now I play for one before the boredom sets in. I'm not even VR yet. If it doesn't work out, I'll probably try some Morrowind. Haven't played it yet, but most people say it's the best in the series. Might just go back to Skyrim or run though good old Oblivion again. I've played mmos before. Some were good. Some were awful. This one is....
  • Garetth
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    Yes
    Anath_Q wrote: »
    16MB...and like I said, I had no trouble with this until today.

    @Anath_Q‌

    AAAh... might be the ram overload lockout. IF a progam uses too much ram too fast it shuts down the program for safety reasons. In theory you can turn this off..,. however is not so easy to do. IT is in the system (computer) info section known as "DEP (Data Execution Prevention)".

    However doing so opens up ur computer to virus so be advised. Also Windows doesn't generally allow you to completey shut it off either so you may not be able to do anything about it.

    You have no idea what you are talking about so why don't you go do what you do best...and don't forget your chap stick!
  • Lovely
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    @Eris‌

    You post that you have a main (46) and an alt (20) and your head cannot wrap around the idea that if you only had a main you'd be in VRs by now?
    Edited by Lovely on 23 May 2014 06:13
  • Garetth
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    Yes
    Eris wrote: »
    Eris wrote: »
    No. It should not be rolled back. Likely some of these problems will be fixed next week in the next patch.

    Some of these things need fixing NOW, not "likely" next week. This is a disaster and waiting isn't going to solve anything.

    Too be honest, I'm not sure what your disaster is, but I played about 7 hours today and didn't experience a single problem. So for me to have to rollback because you're having some sort of issue isn't really a solution to me.


    You my friend are not in Vet levels yet or are a lying fanboi basturd!
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Too much damage has been done, regardless of resolution.
    Garetth wrote: »
    You have no idea what you are talking about so why don't you go do what you do best...and don't forget your chap stick!

    ...If the game is overflowing RAM then it is possible: Memory leaks are being reported. PLz read before u type.

    In theory you can add programs to an exlusion list however if it is crashing windows servicies then this is harder to do (like I said).
    Edited by TheGrandAlliance on 23 May 2014 06:16
    Indeed it is so...
  • SteveCampsOut
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    Yes
    I haven't been on since yesterday, but I'll vote later. Honestly, I don't even care at this point. I'm riding out my naively purchased six month subscription.

    I am so glad I switched my subscription at the last minute from 6 month to 30 days! This patch show's me I was right to do so!

    @ֆȶɛʋɛƈǟʍքֆօʊȶ⍟
    Sanguine & Psijic Group Beta Tester.

    NA Server:
    Steforax Soulstrong CH782 Sorcerer AD
    Grumpy Kahjiti CH782 Dragonknight AD
    Rheticia Le Drakisius CH782 Nightblade DC
    Razmuzan Thrasmas CH782 Templar EP
    Sheenara Soulstrong CH782 Dragonknight DC
    Erik Ramzey CH782 Nightblade AD
    Growling Kahjiti CH782 Nightblade EP
    One of Many Faces CH782 Sorcerer DC
    Grumpasaurus Rex CH782 Warden DC
    EU Server:
    Guildmaster of Pacrooti's Hirelings AD Based LGBT Friendly Guild.
    Stefrex Souliss CH701 Sorcerer AD
    Grumpy Kahjiti CH701 Dragonknight DC
    Slithisi Ksissi CH701 Nightblade EP
    Pokes-With-Fire CH701 Dragonknight AD
    Josie-The-Pussi-Cat CH701 Templar AD
    Stug-Grog M'God CH701 Templar DC
    One With Many Faces CH701 Nightblade DC
    Trixie Truskan CH701 Sorcerer EP
    Grumpetasaurus Rex CH701 Warden EP
  • Saerydoth
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    No
    I've seen a couple of minor issues (namely the random rollbacks affecting Stonefalls), but it's not the end of the world like people are saying. :P I think people need to calm down.
  • tilolyen_ESO
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    Yes
    Saerydoth wrote: »
    I've seen a couple of minor issues (namely the random rollbacks affecting Stonefalls), but it's not the end of the world like people are saying. :P I think people need to calm down.

    Fair enough, however you have not experienced the frustration many others have. Everyone expresses themselves different under stressful situations. Just because you are chill about it, doesn't mean everyone can be.....why do you think they invented Xanax? lol
  • ciannait
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    Garetth wrote: »
    You have no idea what you are talking about so why don't you go do what you do best...and don't forget your chap stick!

    ...If the game is overflowing RAM then it is possible: Memory leaks are being reported. PLz read before u type.

    In theory you can add programs to an exlusion list however if it is crashing windows servicies then this is harder to do (like I said).

    DEP is for things like buffer overflow, not memory leaks per se, as I understand it.
  • ZurinArctus
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    Too much damage has been done, regardless of resolution.
    The performance issues and the VR "difficulty" adjustment is what gets me.

    I hope whatever hot fixes they have in the works get pushed quick, as I'm losing interest in the game fast.
  • brandon
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    Too much damage has been done, regardless of resolution.
    I think its to late to rollback a lot of people have progressed in the game and rolling everything back would just *** more people off.
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Too much damage has been done, regardless of resolution.
    brandon wrote: »
    I think its to late to rollback a lot of people have progressed in the game and rolling everything back would just *** more people off.

    Not EU. EU is still "safe" in theory at the moment...
    Indeed it is so...
  • tilolyen_ESO
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    Yes
    brandon wrote: »
    I think its to late to rollback a lot of people have progressed in the game and rolling everything back would just *** more people off.

    Not EU. EU is still "safe" in theory at the moment...

    Wait until they flip the switch for the server soon. I will not have enough popcorn for the 2nd wave of complaints that will hit the forums.
  • Wizzo91
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    I play on the EU Server.

    Can anybody sum up what the problems are here?
    [EU]

    Wizzo - Stamina DK - 50 - DC
    Wizzox - Magicka NB - 50 - DC
    Vilest Wizz - Magicka Sorc - 50 - DC
    Wiser Wizz - Magicka NB - 50 - DC
    Wizzo X - Magicka NB - 50 - AD
    In Rainbows - Stam Sorc - 50 - AD
    Fake Plastic Tree - Stamplar - 50 - EP

    6XX CP

  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Too much damage has been done, regardless of resolution.
    Yea I know. That is why I have stayed up instead of going to bed. I think me guild(s) and players on my PvP server among others are going to have a heart attack esp with some of the things being reported here.


    Good thing our faction took map (rival faction scrolls) right before shutdown. Will keep us alive for a long time. NOt like the 50K+AP we are currently ahead needed a boost.
    Indeed it is so...
  • brandon
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    Too much damage has been done, regardless of resolution.
    brandon wrote: »
    I think its to late to rollback a lot of people have progressed in the game and rolling everything back would just *** more people off.

    Not EU. EU is still "safe" in theory at the moment...

    you think that now but wait till EU server comes up then you'll see.
  • Requiemslove
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    Woah. See a lot of folk attacking each other in this thread. Its not a nice thing to see. Seriously people, take a step back from the brink eh. @tilolyen_ESO‌ you just mentioned people react different while under stress, OK, that's true and all but for a game, seriously? I only bring this up because your justification for the way people have been in this thread does not really stack up. If anyone is probably stressing its the game developers, if they made a product that is full of issues well more than likely, livelihoods will be in jeopardy. For anyone who plays this game, or other MMOs who genuinely gets really stressed out when things seem to be heading down a nasty path...well all that says is maybe that person should re-evaluate their life somewhat. Hey, I get people should expect value for money and if that's not the case people have a right to be aggrieved but nothing is stopping anyone voting with their feet as it were, or closing the computer down and doing something else that may be more worthy? I aint tried ESO since this patch as its not gone live on the Euro server but if its all that bad, I wont go mad about it, just wont touch the game for a bit while they "hopefully" fix the biggest issues.
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Too much damage has been done, regardless of resolution.
    Wizzo91 wrote: »
    I play on the EU Server.

    Can anybody sum up what the problems are here?

    Read the original post.

    Also my post 2 below. They are the main issues.


    For example... on NA an ENTIRE PvP SERVER WAS UNEXPECTEDLY SHUT DOWN.

    Most here are referring to Vet issues.... 1-10 VR lvling zone's NPC's got massive HP and power boosts. Leveling appears to be "very difficult" now/

    Also many random bugs/quests/crashes reported. And also errors or changes to some of the racial models/hairstyles it appears.
    Indeed it is so...
  • SirJesto
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    I have no issues with the latest patch
    Wizzo91 wrote: »
    I play on the EU Server.

    Can anybody sum up what the problems are here?

    Read the original post.

    Also my post 2 below. They are the main issues.


    For example... on NA an ENTIRE PvP SERVER WAS UNEXPECTEDLY SHUT DOWN.

    Most here are referring to Vet issues.... 1-10 VR lvling zone's NPC's got massive HP and power boosts. Leveling appears to be "very difficult" now/

    Also many random bugs/quests/crashes reported. And also errors or changes to some of the racial models/hairstyles it appears.

    OMFG the sky is falling.
  • TheGrandAlliance
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    Too much damage has been done, regardless of resolution.
    SirJesto wrote: »
    OMFG the sky is falling.

    Tell that to players of Scourge NA PvP server.
    Indeed it is so...
  • chuo.lib14_ESO
    chuo.lib14_ESO
    Soul Shriven
    Yes
    This is absolutely ridiculous. VR content most certainly did not need to be made even more difficult. I give up. Unsubbed. It's no fun at all dying to every freaking mob.
  • zaria
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    Eris wrote: »
    I'd say 95%+ of the player base hasn't reached veteran rank.

    Can you source me this statistic please? Or was it pulled from thy buttocks?

    You think that after 1 1/2 months most casual players are veteran rank already? I've been playing every other day for a few hours a day and am currently 46th level on my main and 20th on an alt I use with a group. I've taken the time to clear each map region as I've gone through it, read each and every quest, spent time crafting, you know, the stuff people do when they aren't racing to max level.

    If you need a mathematical statistic as an example though... if there were 1,000,000 subscribers and there are currently 50,000 veteran rank people, then that would be 5% (making it 95% not veteran). Do you honestly think
    there are anywhere near 50,000 characters at veteran rank at the moment?

    If there are only 200,000 subscribers, there's still be 10,000 veterans to make up 5%. Do you think that there are 10,000 veterans?
    In the causal guild I'm in its 30-40% veteran, might be misleading as many high level veterans plays low level alts, forgot to check during PvP session as they would switch back to main for this.

    So its plenty of veterans, looking at the vr issues I think this weekend is a good day to start an alt or go back to low level zones and kill missing world bosses, collect lore books and similar.
    Grinding just make you go in circles.
    Asking ZoS for nerfs is as stupid as asking for close air support from the death star.
  • SirJesto
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    I have no issues with the latest patch
    SirJesto wrote: »
    OMFG the sky is falling.

    Tell that to players of Scourge NA PvP server.

    It's still down huh? Probably gone forever huh?
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