Haven't had to buy mats for these, other then cooking vendor mats. All I do is enchanting, Cooking , and Blacksmith. Blacksmith being the only one I seem to spend more mats then it's worth. I've only got 1 Blacksmith Survey and with it came 5 Nirncrux mats, saves me lots of gold as now I don't have to buy 5 of them for research. Cooking hasn't rewarded me much but I have stacks of everything but the vendor items, enchanting is nice I get Rekuta often and even Kuta a couple times. The cost of these have been nothing other then mats I hadn't sold off.

I should have said the provisioning writs are ok

I like the crafting quests. It's a bit more gold, as if I would simply sell the materials and I get some mats and have a chance to get a ressource map. It's fun for me and I try to do them every day.

Nirncrux is garbage anyway, who wants this trait ? O.o

GunemCleric wrote: »

I should have said the provisioning writs are ok

The second provisioning writ that I did had me brew a bervez lager. My reward? A bervez lager recipe. I stopped doing them after that.

Dracane wrote: »

Nirncrux is garbage anyway, who wants this trait ? O.o

Nirnhoned may not be very useful but crafters will need it to access any future 9 or greater trait sets.

Zed wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Nirncrux is garbage anyway, who wants this trait ? O.o

Nirnhoned may not be very useful but crafters will need it to access any future 9 or greater trait sets.

This. It is basically 30 days for 9th trait, which means, for example, it will take 2 months to be able to make all 9-trait items in wood. It takes in some cases 3-4 solid hours of farming mats in upper crag to get 1 nirncrap stone. If the writs we dropping 1 per survey it would barely be worth the mats. Then you still have to find someone with the item researched. What happens when 10-trait comes out?

I am not trying to make money off of nirncrap stone, I want to research, but I am not wasting 30-40 hours wandering upper crag just to be able to research, i like playing the game.

I have farmed thousands of BS, Cloth, WW, and Alchemy mats in upper Craglorn and have yet to get a Nirncrux.

It's just beyond stupid!

Livvy wrote: »

milthalas wrote: »

GunemCleric wrote: »

I should have said the provisioning writs are ok

The second provisioning writ that I did had me brew a bervez lager. My reward? A bervez lager recipe. I stopped doing them after that.

This made me lol... I haven't tried them yet, but this and everything else I've read has me thinking I may not even bother. Sad! I was looking forward to this addition.

What's nice about the provision writs is that if you've got the points in the skills that increase the amount of food you make, you can hold on to the food and use it for the next day's writ. Same with alchemy. It's really efficient and a nice way of making a small amount of money.

LonePirate wrote: »

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

Clothing, Woodworking and Blacksmithing cost more than you make in the long term. You may have stuff for the first one or even two writs, but after that you have to come up with a lot of high end mats each time. The actual contract you are offered would be turned down in any real world. A solid negative profit with a small chance for a nice item. No!

This is no longer the case as of last Thursday's patch. The writs pay 604g now. Even if you are asked to craft 9 woodworking items, those sell for 612g but the reward chest will always contain something worth more than 8g. Most of the time you are asked to craft just 6 items so the writ gold reward contains around 200g of profit above the vendor value of the crafted goods.

The last woodworking writ I completed was asking for 9 woodworking items though: 3 bows and 6 staves in nightwood. This was before 1.5.4 though.

diabeticDemon18 wrote: »

GunemCleric wrote: »

I just did my last writ, they (blacksmith, woodworking, and clothier writs) are a complete and total waste of time and resources. Before the patch to "fix" them we got 5 nirn pieces from blacksmith survey and none from WW or Cloth surveys, which was a little unbalanced. Now you get NONE from any or if you do you get same drop rate as farming for hours in upper crag.

Everyone who I speaking to is saying the same thing, you have introduced yet another gold/resource sink. People in my guild are done too. Take this as a warning to all that this is a system to waste vast resources without any reward

The only useful ones are Enchanting and Alchemy, but next patch will likely ruin those so do them while you can.

I would love to express how I feel toward ZOS, but you clearly do not care about your player base so it would not matter. I have asked for you to step up and actually speak to us and listen, but I see that will never happen.

@‌ZOS_JessicaFolsom (i do not have energy to find other names)

... maybe if people weren't blatantly rude to them and say they don't care about their player base, they would actually get on here and respond to people. The only times I've seen them respond in forums is whenever people ask questions to them in a calm, respective tone and are grateful for the response when one is given. They are people. Would you get on here and post if you knew all you were going to get is whiplashed and ridiculed? I know I wouldn't, thank you @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ and @ZOS_GinaBruno to name a few. Sorry for everyone being so hateful to you

You must be new here, no offense. Asking nicely has almost never worked. Calling them names or raging has rarely worked. Being a little passionate and clearly stating what the issue is and why such that other players who agree will comment and agree tends to be the right mix.

A lot of people are angry about this. They broke it without acknowledging it and have created a system that simply wastes valuable resources. There is a severe lack of communication with players and connection to player concerns. The whole nirncrap thing really demonstrates a total disregard for player time. It takes 30 days to research 9 trait (i can live with that), but it should not take 30 hours of wandering around to get materials to do the research, fine if in the wild, but if i am going to waste huge amount of resources then it should have a real payoff, such as a survey that drops no less than one of each nirncrap trait. I do not need quicksilver or maple or cotton, the token return on voidstone or nightwood are a joke.

You think this is put in place buy people who are connected to the community and therefore care? I would love to see them actually put forth a spokesperson who actually speaks and listens to the community. They do not listen, they respond. If they listened no one would be putting their @ tags in posts.

I do the blacksmith crafting writs whenever I can. I don't even know, what I should do with the mats instead of doing the writs.

GunemCleric wrote: »

diabeticDemon18 wrote: »

GunemCleric wrote: »

I just did my last writ, they (blacksmith, woodworking, and clothier writs) are a complete and total waste of time and resources. Before the patch to "fix" them we got 5 nirn pieces from blacksmith survey and none from WW or Cloth surveys, which was a little unbalanced. Now you get NONE from any or if you do you get same drop rate as farming for hours in upper crag.

Everyone who I speaking to is saying the same thing, you have introduced yet another gold/resource sink. People in my guild are done too. Take this as a warning to all that this is a system to waste vast resources without any reward

The only useful ones are Enchanting and Alchemy, but next patch will likely ruin those so do them while you can.

I would love to express how I feel toward ZOS, but you clearly do not care about your player base so it would not matter. I have asked for you to step up and actually speak to us and listen, but I see that will never happen.

@‌ZOS_JessicaFolsom (i do not have energy to find other names)

... maybe if people weren't blatantly rude to them and say they don't care about their player base, they would actually get on here and respond to people. The only times I've seen them respond in forums is whenever people ask questions to them in a calm, respective tone and are grateful for the response when one is given. They are people. Would you get on here and post if you knew all you were going to get is whiplashed and ridiculed? I know I wouldn't, thank you @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌ and @ZOS_GinaBruno to name a few. Sorry for everyone being so hateful to you

You must be new here, no offense. Asking nicely has almost never worked. Calling them names or raging has rarely worked. Being a little passionate and clearly stating what the issue is and why such that other players who agree will comment and agree tends to be the right mix.

A lot of people are angry about this. They broke it without acknowledging it and have created a system that simply wastes valuable resources. There is a severe lack of communication with players and connection to player concerns. The whole nirncrap thing really demonstrates a total disregard for player time. It takes 30 days to research 9 trait (i can live with that), but it should not take 30 hours of wandering around to get materials to do the research, fine if in the wild, but if i am going to waste huge amount of resources then it should have a real payoff, such as a survey that drops no less than one of each nirncrap trait. I do not need quicksilver or maple or cotton, the token return on voidstone or nightwood are a joke.

You think this is put in place buy people who are connected to the community and therefore care? I would love to see them actually put forth a spokesperson who actually speaks and listens to the community. They do not listen, they respond. If they listened no one would be putting their @ tags in posts.

I'm definitely not new... In fact I have the same forum rank as you. But I agree, being passionate and having people agree works. I was simply meaning that you are at least respectful when you ask the question, not raging and calling them out. I understand it's a problem, I'm happy people are on here looking for fixes, but it's not ok to be blatantly rude.