Do you think there should be an AoE cap?

Etaniel

No

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

This thread is 44 pages long and the only dev comment is to keep it clean from bashing/flaming stuff.

So sad that the game is almost 2 years old and AoE cap is still here making Cyro a total mess while 24vs24 are spamming the FOTM ruining the game for everyone in Cyrodiil costant 400+ ping is not fun to play.

To be honest I'd rather take this back than the current zerg meta that runs rampant in the majority of Veteran campaigns.
http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uq2-Zl1PETM

On a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being weakest, that vampire was at 10 and needed nerf.
But on a scale of 1 to 10, 1 being incredibly stupid and 10 being super smart/skilled, the pugs were at -10

And a lot of the changes in this game were made according to the stupidity level instead of the strength level which explains why when a skill gets nerfed in ESO, it gets nerfed into oblivion and not back in line with other skills.

Lava_Croft

No

DjSolJAH wrote: »

Old thread yet I'm guessing this was before AoE caps were implemented. Although thousands pleaded against AoE caps.... They were implemented and remain

AoE caps have been in place since the release of the game, bar some skills they overlooked and 'fixed' in an early patch.

Back to your cage, parrot.

phillyboy7897

No

Click on the 2nd person to say yes it's zos but changed their icon to hide it from showing in this poll LMAO

phillyboy7897

No

Lol first vote also zos with a wierd icon lolol

jbcrocks

No

Remove aoe caps! Remove stacking! Sick of this..might come back tot he game when aoe caps are gone

Jules

No

sigh.

Wollust

No

New update, new bandaid fix to a problem that has been discussed countless times. Instead of just doing the players and performance a favor and removing AoE caps we get a bomb set.

Awesome.

_Chaos

No

@Wrobel

mchermie

No

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

@Wrobel

He's busy playing pve

Jhunn

No

mchermie wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

@Wrobel

He's busy playing pve

Doubt he has time for that with the *** of work the higher levels are throwing at him. That man is in charge of way, way too much stuff.

Wrobel makes a bunch of stupid decisions but somehow over the last few weeks I've grown to feel sorry for him.

[edited for bypassing filter]

Sallington

No

Jhunn wrote: »

mchermie wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

@Wrobel

He's busy playing pve

Doubt he has time for that with the sh*tload of work the higher levels are throwing at him. That man is in charge of way, way too much stuff.

Wrobel makes a bunch of stupid decisions but somehow over the last few weeks I've grown to feel sorry for him.

Agreed. I wonder how big of a combat team he gets to work with. If it's as small, or nonexistent, as it seems... he's probably looking for a new studio to join.

mchermie

No

derp

jbcrocks

No

Any news

_Chaos

No

@Wrobel have you seen the outcome of this poll?

Burning_Talons

No

Muizer wrote: »

ToRelax wrote: »

Muizer wrote: »

After last ESO-live I'm going with the 'Yes' option for now. After all, the devs evidently understand the problems we experience and are considering solutions. So the only difference now between those who clamour for the removal of AoE caps and the devs is that the former do not know the code base and the latter do. Why would I choose ignorance over knowledge? Only people with an axe to grind or deep rooted aversion to admitting they were wrong, it seems, would continue to harp on about this.

Maybe you should also look at the differences in understanding of the game and meta.
I quote Wrobel from last ESO Live: "Crystal Blast now has a lot more AoE damage, so you can throw that into a group of enemies who are charging at you and not, you know, not have to get hit by all their PBAoEs that they're spamming."

He explained further how he wants to change the meta to evolve more around positioning and ranged AoEs than it currently is, but the way he adresses it just clearly tells how inept he really is.

edit: typo

Well, he has a team of professionals to go over a code base. What do you have? An awkwardly formulated sentence on a twitch stream.

I can tell you that you've been swallowing alot of Wrobel seeds

Vaoh

No

Did this poll actually amount to anything?

I understand that polls on a forum don't tend to represent a whole lot, but the sheer amount of votes here should be a sign to the Devs on how they might consider changing up PvP in the future...

Ajax_22

No

Doncellius wrote: »

Did this poll actually amount to anything?

I understand that polls on a forum don't tend to represent a whole lot, but the sheer amount of votes here should be a sign to the Devs on how they might consider changing up PvP in the future...

This poll was conducted before AOE caps went into the live game. The result of this poll was AOE caps went into the game, increased lag, Proxy Det, and VD.

Karamis_Vimardon

No

But AoE caps can't be removed because, as @Wrobel said, it would affect PvE as well.

Because you know, ZoS can't modify mob and NPC stats and buffs directly like they can a players-oh wait, they can!

I've said it before, i'll say it again: @Wrobel does not have the industry experience to be a lead and it shows.

Vaoh

No

Ajax_22 wrote: »

Doncellius wrote: »

Did this poll actually amount to anything?

I understand that polls on a forum don't tend to represent a whole lot, but the sheer amount of votes here should be a sign to the Devs on how they might consider changing up PvP in the future...

This poll was conducted before AOE caps went into the live game. The result of this poll was AOE caps went into the game, increased lag, Proxy Det, and VD.

That's kinda sad

I never saw how the game performed in PvP prior to PS4 launch. It confuses me why they can't activate AoE caps in PvE but not in PvP.

Placing the new ruleset on a PTS wouldn't hurt anyone, right...?

edit: *sigh*

kinggingernator

No

Zose you listen so well. 90%.vote against it and you add it and everyone hates it. Good work listening to the player base.

L2Pissue

No

this is the "listening to players base" they talk about in commercials and interviews

DHale

No

I have another band aid for stacking Zergs aka leg h ers the kiss of a vicious death and the sweet embrace of the proximity detonation. #removeaoecapsnow. Winter is coming.

Jhunn

No

Just reading the first page says it all really. Should've listened to the community, ZOS.

Elhanan wrote: »

AoE cap will result in the same terrible PvP experience of GW2 where the zerg always wins. @ZOS, please no AoE cap.

Grishnakk wrote: »

I don't want another death-ball-blob to win like we had to do in GW2 to be effective.

Milky wrote: »

Absolutely not. This will force tight stack blobbing as the only successful meta.

Disharmony wrote: »

For god-sakes if this happens PvP will die in my eyes. It's bad enough that at the moment most PvP is taken place in lag intense zerg vs zerg battles. Touch the abilities instead of ruining how they work. Don't see how zerg vs zerg will keep people entertained for an extended period of time. Small teams are much better.

DKsUnite

No

altemriel

No

first the lag in Cyrodiil should be fixed, then AOE caps can go away!

Sandman929

No

Fix Health. Health as an attribute has little to no relevance in PvP because an investment in Health doesn't have any utility, and there are very few true tanks in PvP. If you want to have an anti-zerg, you need viable, useful tanking in PvP.

Soris

No

Oh hello again this thread

DKsUnite

No

Yay

LegendaryChef

No

Anytime @zose..... Anytime now.....

Vaoh

No

As predicted, AoE Caps screwed PvP. Everyone saw it coming and it has stayed with us since then.

No revisions, removal, or second looks.

Here is a ton of mitigation if you stack as many players as possible. Also here are changes to make every skill snare, poisons to slaughter the good solo players, and a gap closer snare you cannot avoid no matter what. Enjoy!

And I wonder sometimes why there used to be massive queues on multiple campaigns to join PvP..... *sigh*

Old thread is still 100% relevant