kylewwefan wrote: »In lieu of last weeks Xynode appreciation thread, I was compelled to try out this easy Sorc build.
I had a much more difficult time doing them in Siroria/ Mother Sorrow/Zaan.
I ran Maelstrom one time with the setup. It was pretty good in there actually. MS Siroria Zaan would be laughable. Guarantee. I’m not the best Sorc ever, but this setup is solid. I’d recommend it to anyone wanting to try something different.
I may just be a sheepie toxic elitist meta lover but I guarantee almost any combination of Acuity/MS + BSW/Julianos/Crafty Alfiq/Spell Strat will beat that build with the same rotation.
kylewwefan wrote: »Put the calculator away. Don’t get another thread shut down with your silly math logic and reasoning.
You guys seem to think I don’t have Mother Sorrow, BSW and slimecraw. Or spell strat. Or any other number of sets. Ok. I don’t have a perfected Asylum staff but you did point out not many do.
I’ll admit I do have Maelstrom lightning staffs galore and a number of IA lightning staffs. Also maybe not everyone is gonna have. But I did. So I used them and modified this build to fit what I got.
Questions you need to ask
1.) does the build work Answer= Yes. It works. Quite well actually.
2.) Is it really easy? Answer = yes if you can heavy attack and throw out a couple skills in no particular order, this build melts stuff. It’s that easy.
3.) no seriously how easy is this build? It’s ridiculously easy to do well. It puts out so much AOE freaking damage it almost becomes uncontrollable.
4.) what if your not the best player and constantly mess up rotation? Unlike many, this build is extremely forgiving. In mid rotation, you get knocked down, CC’d, Stunned, whatever get back up. Shield up. Swap bar. Find your bearings. Power surge. Lightning form. Liquid lightning. Wall of elements. Swap bar and heavy attack your way to victory.
5.) no light attack? Who freaking cares!
6.) no skills? Maybe one?
7.) just heavy attack? Yes. It’s so easy. You can’t mess it up. Even when you mess it up, it doesn’t matter. Stuff is gonna die from all this AOE.
8.) so what’s the drawback? Why the hate? It’s not BiS. Plenty of other sets/ builds will do more single target damage.
This build does lack a little in single target DPS, but blows everything out of the water in AOE DPS.
9.) how easy is it to put this build together? Well, it was super easy for me when I decided to use 2 medium armor pieces of Undaunted Infaltrator and light monster set because I already had the other stuff.
I did farm Arx Corinium for Jewelry and a lightning staff that I never did get. It’s on par with BSW farm.
I further modified it in VMA with Iceheart Monster Set.
10.) is it really worth transmuting the jewelry? For me it was. Let’s get real. I ran a few dungeons and VMA with the jewelry robust. That’s really not bad either. I figured, why not take the next step.
11.) why not just go pet Sorc? I ran pet Sorc when pet Sorc wasn’t cool. The things would die about as quick as you could cast them. They’re much better now. But they still somewhat lack damage. If it’s any consolation, you can still throw on a pet if you want. I did. It still does well.
12.) but XYZ is better for trials right? Dude. If you’re pushing for scores and stuff in vet trials, you already know what BiS is and what you should be using.
That’s like Rome in this game. An idea of this perfect place where everything is perfect and where the best of the best of the best of the best can really shine and be best.
I find it quite different actually playing.
kylewwefan wrote: »Put the calculator away. Don’t get another thread shut down with your silly math logic and reasoning.
You guys seem to think I don’t have Mother Sorrow, BSW and slimecraw. Or spell strat. Or any other number of sets. Ok. I don’t have a perfected Asylum staff but you did point out not many do.
I’ll admit I do have Maelstrom lightning staffs galore and a number of IA lightning staffs. Also maybe not everyone is gonna have. But I did. So I used them and modified this build to fit what I got.
Questions you need to ask
1.) does the build work Answer= Yes. It works. Quite well actually.
2.) Is it really easy? Answer = yes if you can heavy attack and throw out a couple skills in no particular order, this build melts stuff. It’s that easy.
3.) no seriously how easy is this build? It’s ridiculously easy to do well. It puts out so much AOE freaking damage it almost becomes uncontrollable.
4.) what if your not the best player and constantly mess up rotation? Unlike many, this build is extremely forgiving. In mid rotation, you get knocked down, CC’d, Stunned, whatever get back up. Shield up. Swap bar. Find your bearings. Power surge. Lightning form. Liquid lightning. Wall of elements. Swap bar and heavy attack your way to victory.
5.) no light attack? Who freaking cares!
6.) no skills? Maybe one?
7.) just heavy attack? Yes. It’s so easy. You can’t mess it up. Even when you mess it up, it doesn’t matter. Stuff is gonna die from all this AOE.
8.) so what’s the drawback? Why the hate? It’s not BiS. Plenty of other sets/ builds will do more single target damage.
This build does lack a little in single target DPS, but blows everything out of the water in AOE DPS.
9.) how easy is it to put this build together? Well, it was super easy for me when I decided to use 2 medium armor pieces of Undaunted Infaltrator and light monster set because I already had the other stuff.
I did farm Arx Corinium for Jewelry and a lightning staff that I never did get. It’s on par with BSW farm.
I further modified it in VMA with Iceheart Monster Set.
10.) is it really worth transmuting the jewelry? For me it was. Let’s get real. I ran a few dungeons and VMA with the jewelry robust. That’s really not bad either. I figured, why not take the next step.
11.) why not just go pet Sorc? I ran pet Sorc when pet Sorc wasn’t cool. The things would die about as quick as you could cast them. They’re much better now. But they still somewhat lack damage. If it’s any consolation, you can still throw on a pet if you want. I did. It still does well.
12.) but XYZ is better for trials right? Dude. If you’re pushing for scores and stuff in vet trials, you already know what BiS is and what you should be using.
That’s like Rome in this game. An idea of this perfect place where everything is perfect and where the best of the best of the best of the best can really shine and be best.
I find it quite different actually playing.
T3hasiangod wrote: »I may just be a sheepie toxic elitist meta lover but I guarantee almost any combination of Acuity/MS + BSW/Julianos/Crafty Alfiq/Spell Strat will beat that build with the same rotation.
I can (mathematically) confirm that running something like Juli + MS + Slimecraw will be better than UI.
T3hasiangod wrote: »kylewwefan wrote: »Put the calculator away. Don’t get another thread shut down with your silly math logic and reasoning.
You guys seem to think I don’t have Mother Sorrow, BSW and slimecraw. Or spell strat. Or any other number of sets. Ok. I don’t have a perfected Asylum staff but you did point out not many do.
I’ll admit I do have Maelstrom lightning staffs galore and a number of IA lightning staffs. Also maybe not everyone is gonna have. But I did. So I used them and modified this build to fit what I got.
Questions you need to ask
1.) does the build work Answer= Yes. It works. Quite well actually.
2.) Is it really easy? Answer = yes if you can heavy attack and throw out a couple skills in no particular order, this build melts stuff. It’s that easy.
3.) no seriously how easy is this build? It’s ridiculously easy to do well. It puts out so much AOE freaking damage it almost becomes uncontrollable.
4.) what if your not the best player and constantly mess up rotation? Unlike many, this build is extremely forgiving. In mid rotation, you get knocked down, CC’d, Stunned, whatever get back up. Shield up. Swap bar. Find your bearings. Power surge. Lightning form. Liquid lightning. Wall of elements. Swap bar and heavy attack your way to victory.
5.) no light attack? Who freaking cares!
6.) no skills? Maybe one?
7.) just heavy attack? Yes. It’s so easy. You can’t mess it up. Even when you mess it up, it doesn’t matter. Stuff is gonna die from all this AOE.
8.) so what’s the drawback? Why the hate? It’s not BiS. Plenty of other sets/ builds will do more single target damage.
This build does lack a little in single target DPS, but blows everything out of the water in AOE DPS.
9.) how easy is it to put this build together? Well, it was super easy for me when I decided to use 2 medium armor pieces of Undaunted Infaltrator and light monster set because I already had the other stuff.
I did farm Arx Corinium for Jewelry and a lightning staff that I never did get. It’s on par with BSW farm.
I further modified it in VMA with Iceheart Monster Set.
10.) is it really worth transmuting the jewelry? For me it was. Let’s get real. I ran a few dungeons and VMA with the jewelry robust. That’s really not bad either. I figured, why not take the next step.
11.) why not just go pet Sorc? I ran pet Sorc when pet Sorc wasn’t cool. The things would die about as quick as you could cast them. They’re much better now. But they still somewhat lack damage. If it’s any consolation, you can still throw on a pet if you want. I did. It still does well.
12.) but XYZ is better for trials right? Dude. If you’re pushing for scores and stuff in vet trials, you already know what BiS is and what you should be using.
That’s like Rome in this game. An idea of this perfect place where everything is perfect and where the best of the best of the best of the best can really shine and be best.
I find it quite different actually playing.
Yes, because everything in this game is decided by whether it feels good or not.
We are not critiquing the rotation, we are critiquing the sets being used. A rotation can be used with any combination of gear. This build markets itself as being beginner friendly when it isn't. You need to spend all that time farming for IA and UI. That is not "easy", especially when there are other far more accessible sets that are as strong or stronger than the sets you offer.
A beginner build should fulfill two requirements. First, the rotation needs to be easy. Second, the gear needs to be easily obtainable with minimal farming or easily farmable. This build fulfills the first requirement, but badly fails the second.
I’ve been using the “easy sorc” build for some time and it’s served me well, before the nerf to off balance it was on a disgusting level especially if used with multiple other easy sorcs in the same trial. I’ve made some tweaks to help me get the best out of it for myself. It’s still a really good build.
Is it the best dps sorc build in game? No. Is it fun to use and good for completing most veteran content? Absolutely.
As for people publicly dissing criticizing other people’s work for no apparent reason, that’s out of order in my opinion.
I´m sceptical about the "easymode" sorc since farming UI is a pain compared to get yourself a set of mother´s sorrow, which will be both easier to get and more effective, especially since there´s a unique Lightning staff that comes from a quest. Another plus with running sorrow over UI is that you save yourself alot of transmute stones.
And I´m not making this comment to be "tOxIc ElItIs MeTa ***" but to question how convenient it is to aquire the gear.
I see no problem with criticizing other peoples content, as long as there´re no personal attacks, which I don´t see in this thread. Only thing that´s been pointed out is that the "easy sorc" could become even easier, performing better and be more accessible if a set was swapped out for another (aka "Here´s another option"). I fail to see how that is a bad thing. It´s a forum after all and is created for discussion, and criticism is included.
WrathOfInnos wrote: »IA is often redundant in groups, but has decent stats. UI is just plain weak. Max mag on the 2 and 3 pc is the worst DPS trait (Spell Crit, Spell Damage, Spell Pen all perform better), Weapon Crit to the 4 pc adds literally nothing, and the 5 pc is not nearly powerful enough to make up for these shortcomings.
If you’re going to do a pure lightning heavy attack build just use something like Julianos and/or Netch. Neither are BiS for end game, but both are good options for easy sorc. Mother’s Sorrow is also excellent and can be bought from other players for cheap. Even Queen’s Elegance is decent for heavy attack builds, and is dirt cheap, no farming required.