[BUG] Marksman Mesh for Female Characters not actually female

Icy

Hey @ZOS_GinaBruno, @ZOS_JessicaFolsom, anyone:

Did you KNOW that the Marksman Mesh looks like this on a female character???? I, of course, couldn't test this prior to actually putting it on, and now it's bound to my account. Is this a bug or what? And if it's not a bug, can I have my 150k gold back? The second image is what my character looks like normally. I think you'll agree the difference is noticeable.



I'm kinda pissed right now, I must admit.

GaldorP

It really looks a bit weird on female characters. I mentioned this in an official feedback thread on the PTS forum already:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2663466/#Comment_2663466

olsborg

The set doenst look very good overall, male or female, I guess thats why the jewlery is so coveted.

Turelus

Well at least if she trips over and falls on her front in the Marksman she has less chance to fracture her sternum and die... Look for the positives!

IwakuraLain42

Get used to it, all new armor will have this "generic" look with regards to the sex of the wearer, so there will be no more "boob armor" ;-)

Volkodav

Yeah,too many people *** about women ingame having..(gasp!),..boobs!
So they nerfed the Ladies armor.

[edited for profanity masking]

Nifty2g

damn those rpers

really though, the new armors in this update are very cushion like, makes my toon look fat and i get insecurity for her

Abeille

Volkodav wrote: »

Yeah,too many people b-itched about women ingame having..(gasp!),..boobs!
So they nerfed the Ladies armor.

Having boob plates, you mean. Which we know are not very practical.

We have many styles with boob plates already. Nothing wrong with having options.

Hortator Indoril Nerevar

yawn...

I know this is a game but armor normally was flat chested for girls irl. Yes its a game but it borders the real world in style.

So tired of people complaining that they dont get enough t*ts...

*edit* I agree they shouldnt be so "real" however I just am tired of people asking for boob window and thinking that going Japanese mmo style is a "good" idea...

HaldaAinur

Er....if people have really been whining about mildly form-fitting chest plates then it's just stupid. When the hell did people begin to assume that if a lady wants to look good for herself through wearing items that accentuates her figure, she is immediately objectifying herself and others for GASP, wearing an armor plate that actually fits her?! How very dare she.

Anyway, on a more serious note, flat-chested armor is good and fine, I just sincerely hope it doesn't turn into a figure nerf altogether (I see no-one complaining about the new bosmer dress), and make all the armor for females look like rubbish, because that armor, really does look terrible.

Hopefully they follow the style of these in the future

Hortator Indoril Nerevar

HaldaAinur wrote: »

Er....if people have really been whining about mildly form-fitting chest plates then it's just stupid. When the hell did people begin to assume that if a lady wants to look good for herself through wearing items that accentuates her figure, she is immediately objectifying herself and others for GASP, wearing an armor plate that actually fits her?! How very dare she.

Anyway, on a more serious note, flat-chested armor is good and fine, I just sincerely hope it doesn't turn into a figure nerf altogether (I see no-one complaining about the new bosmer dress), and make all the armor for females look like rubbish, because that armor, really does look terrible.

Hopefully they follow the style of these in the future

+like

Volkodav

Abeille wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Yeah,too many people b-itched about women ingame having..(gasp!),..boobs!
So they nerfed the Ladies armor.

Having boob plates, you mean. Which we know are not very practical.

We have many styles with boob plates already. Nothing wrong with having options.

Yeah,..sure. BUT do they have to make you look like you have a bunch of thick clothing bundled up underneath all the armor?

Turelus

Volkodav wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Yeah,too many people b-itched about women ingame having..(gasp!),..boobs!
So they nerfed the Ladies armor.

Having boob plates, you mean. Which we know are not very practical.

We have many styles with boob plates already. Nothing wrong with having options.

Yeah,..sure. BUT do they have to make you look like you have a bunch of thick clothing bundled up underneath all the armor?

Maybe that's the look they wanted for that style. They can't make every style appeal to every person. As @Abeille said this just adds options. The complaint should be "Why can't I change sets to styles I like?" rather than "This doesn't suit my personal taste, so change it everyone else"

Also there are plenty of costume options which the look desired, not all of them from the Crown Store either.

Duiwel

Volkodav wrote: »

Yeah,..sure. BUT do they have to make you look like you have a bunch of thick clothing bundled up underneath all the armor?

It's a Samurai thing...

deleted220701-004865

I know it's difficult and heartbreaking to grasp for some men, but boobs don't require special armor compartments. Just like the male groin doesn't require a special shaft compartment to be carved into leg armor (much to their additional disappointment, I'm sure).

LadyNalcarya

Imo on heavy armor it looks fine and makes perfect sense - at least that's better than diving suit cuirasses of basic motifs. Of course it makes charater look "fat"... Well, armor is not supposed to be skin tight.
But on light robes its awkward.

Acrolas

Tondodino wrote: »

Just like your male groin doesn't require a special shaft compartment to be carved out in your leg armor (much to your additional disappointment, I'm sure).

Henry VIII's massive codpiece frowns upon you.

No cake for the impurity.

mariskaas

Tondodino wrote: »

I know it's difficult and heartbreaking to grasp for some men, but boobs don't require special armor compartments. Just like the male groin doesn't require a special shaft compartment to be carved into leg armor (much to their additional disappointment, I'm sure).

Actually in fencing women do wear boob-shaped boob-plates for protection:)

LadyNalcarya

mariskaas wrote: »

Tondodino wrote: »

I know it's difficult and heartbreaking to grasp for some men, but boobs don't require special armor compartments. Just like the male groin doesn't require a special shaft compartment to be carved into leg armor (much to their additional disappointment, I'm sure).

Actually in fencing women do wear boob-shaped boob-plates for protection:)

Actuallly its made of different material and in fencing no one tries to kill you

Annalyse

Mercenary style looks like that on my HA female character too. It was so big and bulky looking on her that I ended up changing to something else despite the crafting cost.

Faasnu

I myself prefer this:








...than boobie armour:




Somehow it just makes me feel better as a female. I love outfits like this, too:

But there is a difference between clothing and armour.


EDIT: Heavy and medium should look like this in my opinion. If you wear light armour, it can look however you want, you can even be half naked and I don't care because clothes won't stop a sword anyway.

KochDerDamonen

YES

Do you know how happy I was when I noticed Mercenary style having this effect on my Khajiit? I looove flat breastplates and am so happy that we have some as an option!

Faasnu

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

YES

Do you know how happy I was when I noticed Mercenary style having this effect on my Khajiit? I looove flat breastplates and am so happy that we have some as an option!

My female khajiit wears the Marksman set and I love how big it looks on her, it looks like it actually gives her protection and it isn't just painted over her.

KochDerDamonen

Faasnu wrote: »

KochDerDamonen wrote: »

YES

Do you know how happy I was when I noticed Mercenary style having this effect on my Khajiit? I looove flat breastplates and am so happy that we have some as an option!

My female khajiit wears the Marksman set and I love how big it looks on her, it looks like it actually gives her protection and it isn't just painted over her.

medium mercenary

BomblePants

Tondodino wrote: »

I know it's difficult and heartbreaking to grasp for some men, but boobs don't require special armor compartments. Just like the male groin doesn't require a special shaft compartment to be carved into leg armor (much to their additional disappointment, I'm sure).

Tondodino.... your post made me laugh so much

I like the flat chested look my dunmer rocks.... with and without armour.

Thevampirenight

I rather have boob plates, but yeah they need to have boobs more showing on female outfits, but yeah I don't mind boob plates either. The other kind without them is fine, but everyone is different.

Volkodav

Turelus wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Yeah,too many people b-itched about women ingame having..(gasp!),..boobs!
So they nerfed the Ladies armor.

Having boob plates, you mean. Which we know are not very practical.

We have many styles with boob plates already. Nothing wrong with having options.

Yeah,..sure. BUT do they have to make you look like you have a bunch of thick clothing bundled up underneath all the armor?

Maybe that's the look they wanted for that style. They can't make every style appeal to every person. As @Abeille said this just adds options. The complaint should be "Why can't I change sets to styles I like?" rather than "This doesn't suit my personal taste, so change it everyone else"

Also there are plenty of costume options which the look desired, not all of them from the Crown Store either.

I wasnt talking about all the other styles,I was agreeing with the OP that they do not look flattering.Others here have said the same thing,ya know. :}

Icy

Turelus wrote: »

Maybe that's the look they wanted for that style. They can't make every style appeal to every person. As @Abeille said this just adds options. The complaint should be "Why can't I change sets to styles I like?" rather than "This doesn't suit my personal taste, so change it everyone else"

Also there are plenty of costume options which the look desired, not all of them from the Crown Store either.

Sure, and that's fine, but there was NO way for me to SEE that "This doesn't suit my personal taste" before out outlayed 150k gold and bound it to my account; so I can't even sell it on to someone who would appreciate it.

I've got no problem having a flat boob-plate, however I would like my character to have a waist.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_GinaBruno Is the Marksman's Armour looking as intended on the female character mesh??

Dhukath

It does irk me when the excuse that "it wasn't like that IRL" after all we have cats & lizards running round in armor and that's normal? Maybe my female Khajiit should have 3 pairs of boobs like my cat IRL.

ContraTempo

Dhukath wrote: »

It does irk me when the excuse that "it wasn't like that IRL" after all we have cats & lizards running round in armor and that's normal? Maybe my female Khajiit should have 3 pairs of boobs like my cat IRL.

Seen it.

Gidorick

I think players and designers are forgetting this is a high fantasy game and not a medieval fantasy game. We have cats and lizards walking around with breasts but somehow armor that confirms to the contour of that bosom is inappropriate.

Give me a break. ZOS will lose more business than it will gain from gender neutral armors.

I say bring on the boob armor. Bring on the cod pieces. This is fantastical world, the armor should reflect that.