Now, now. The Natch Potes thread will be up tomorrow.GIVE US THE PATCH NOTES
Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?
Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Thevampirenight wrote: »Just waiting for those Natch Potes or Patch notes, I want to see whats going to change and whats happening with the theives guild update!.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
James-Wayne wrote: »Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
Because the DLC isn't just for endgame players, it's for everyone who plays and seeing the average is currently about 300CP across all platforms this is what they need tested to ensure its balanced enough for the majority of players, end-game players with MAX CP are still currently the minority, yes believe it this is fact. Sorry.
In the past there used to be bugs that only occured if you had more than a certain amount of cp.James-Wayne wrote: »Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
Because the DLC isn't just for endgame players, it's for everyone who plays and seeing the average is currently about 300CP across all platforms this is what they need tested to ensure its balanced enough for the majority of players, end-game players with MAX CP are still currently the minority, yes believe it this is fact. Sorry.
Paulington wrote: »James-Wayne wrote: »Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
Because the DLC isn't just for endgame players, it's for everyone who plays and seeing the average is currently about 300CP across all platforms this is what they need tested to ensure its balanced enough for the majority of players, end-game players with MAX CP are still currently the minority, yes believe it this is fact. Sorry.
These non-endgame players can spend less CP then if they wish to, they can recreate their own character on live but capped people can't? Having 501 pleases everyone.
Whilst ZOS do need data on whether the Trial is doable with 300 CP I am sure they already have a lot of that from internal testing and outside of bug fixes they got that pretty spot on with vMA. I just find it a little arbitrary that they give us less than the cap.
Pangnirtung wrote: »How is this a problem with CP?
If it is that much of a concern to you wouldn't your imported characters already have 501 CP?
Paulington wrote: »Pangnirtung wrote: »How is this a problem with CP?
If it is that much of a concern to you wouldn't your imported characters already have 501 CP?
They do, except EU don't get them for two weeks which means we're testing for two weeks with characters that aren't anything like our Live ones. At least with 501 CP and good gear we can 100% recreate our live characters.
The way the template system works means we have to completely re-engineer our builds just for the PTS, same with NA in two weeks time. Why not just give us the cap and the gear (see the suggestion thread) so everyone can test how they like.
Pangnirtung wrote: »Paulington wrote: »Pangnirtung wrote: »How is this a problem with CP?
If it is that much of a concern to you wouldn't your imported characters already have 501 CP?
They do, except EU don't get them for two weeks which means we're testing for two weeks with characters that aren't anything like our Live ones. At least with 501 CP and good gear we can 100% recreate our live characters.
The way the template system works means we have to completely re-engineer our builds just for the PTS, same with NA in two weeks time. Why not just give us the cap and the gear (see the suggestion thread) so everyone can test how they like.
What are you missing by playing your character two weeks later when some of the bigger bugs have hopefully been squashed?
If I remember correctly the last time a DLC was posted on the PTS when the EU characters were imported I lost my NA characters. It all evens out.
Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
It's probably because new trial is made to be doable with 300CP. Playing with characters with 501CP won't give them necessary data.
Pangnirtung wrote: »Paulington wrote: »Pangnirtung wrote: »How is this a problem with CP?
If it is that much of a concern to you wouldn't your imported characters already have 501 CP?
They do, except EU don't get them for two weeks which means we're testing for two weeks with characters that aren't anything like our Live ones. At least with 501 CP and good gear we can 100% recreate our live characters.
The way the template system works means we have to completely re-engineer our builds just for the PTS, same with NA in two weeks time. Why not just give us the cap and the gear (see the suggestion thread) so everyone can test how they like.
What are you missing by playing your character two weeks later when some of the bigger bugs have hopefully been squashed?
If I remember correctly the last time a DLC was posted on the PTS when the EU characters were imported I lost my NA characters. It all evens out.
People like using their characters and people like trying new things when they are released, not fourteen days later. I don't think this is such a difficult concept.
Joy_Division wrote: »Paulington wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Not yet, we'll know the exact size tomorrow.Paulington wrote: »So @ZOS_GinaBruno any rough idea on download size for PC?Templates will have 300 Champion Points.Any notice on the champ point level of templates for all in EU?
Will it be 300 again 501 or somewhere in between?
Why only 300? Every end-game guild that wants to test has capped characters so why not let us just recreate our own characters? Testing is useless as our builds are predicated around our CP numbers. Just, why? Anyone that doesn't have 300 CP or above can just spend less.
There is a whole thread on the things templates need to have to make testing in any way meaningful, have any been implemented?
It's probably because new trial is made to be doable with 300CP. Playing with characters with 501CP won't give them necessary data.
Sigh...Then the new trial is going to be farm mode all too quickly.