New Gear Set - Losing Spell Damage Instead of Gaining it

April

Yes, the 2 piece spell damage from Torug's is also not working atm. Tested it earlier on my temp by removing a piece of armour, spell damage didn't change at all when taking it off.

Kildayen

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

It is definitely an issue with Torugs. I just took off one of my two pieces and no change to my spell damage.

I have to disagree. I tested the Torug's and it does add value when I add it. Make sure you check out my new research here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2423410/#Comment_2423410

Preyfar

Kildayen wrote: »

Make sure you check out the long post I made. Did a lot of research.

In all testing on my side, it does seem to be that dual-weild, off hand set causing the issue.

Kildayen

Preyfar wrote: »

Kildayen wrote: »

Make sure you check out the long post I made. Did a lot of research.

In all testing on my side, it does seem to be that dual-weild, off hand set causing the issue.

Yes I agree.

Preyfar

And while it sucks, at least we were able to help determine the cause. Sadly, it's too late to get it into next week's patch...

Kildayen

Preyfar wrote: »

And while it sucks, at least we were able to help determine the cause. Sadly, it's too late to get it into next week's patch...

I'll be happy if they just give me all my mats back and let me build new gear. It is their fault, not mine. I should get everything back.

@ZOS_GinaBruno please help with this. Thank you!

Preyfar

Kildayen wrote: »

Preyfar wrote: »

And while it sucks, at least we were able to help determine the cause. Sadly, it's too late to get it into next week's patch...

I'll be happy if they just give me all my mats back and let me build new gear. It is their fault, not mine. I should get everything back.

@ZOS_GinaBruno please help with this. Thank you!

Yeah, I'm miffed I spent a TON on a Julianos set and, for me, i can't really use it. I wouldn't have built if i I knew, but... eh.

Asayre

@Kildayen, thanks for the detailed testing! So as I understand it the spell damage from your Old set is 2688. With 5 sorcerer skills this is increased by 10% to 2956.8 which is in agreement with your character sheet. The 10% is due to 2% for each Sorcerer skill.

I believe I understand why you have 142 more spell damage when you equip a restoration staff on your off bar. I have reported this issue on the PTS but I guess ZOS did not fix it. I believe you are using a Magnus restoration staff and when you switch to it the game errorneously thinks you have 4 pieces of Magnus equipped. The extra Magnus piece gives 129 base spell damage which is increased by 10% due to having 5 Sorcerer skills slotted and the Expert Mage passive. This makes the increase 142 spell damage.

From my testing on the PTS, I found such bugs are only an UI error. If you were to cast a spell, say Crystal Fragments, on the same monster with and without a restoration staff on your back bar your combat log should report the same damage.

The reason your spell damage is not being increased in your New set with a restoration staff on your back bar is that it is not activating any extra spell damage set bonuses errorneously.

Hope that helps and eases your qualms

Kildayen

Preyfar wrote: »

Kildayen wrote: »

Preyfar wrote: »

And while it sucks, at least we were able to help determine the cause. Sadly, it's too late to get it into next week's patch...

I'll be happy if they just give me all my mats back and let me build new gear. It is their fault, not mine. I should get everything back.

@ZOS_GinaBruno please help with this. Thank you!

Yeah, I'm miffed I spent a TON on a Julianos set and, for me, i can't really use it. I wouldn't have built if i I knew, but... eh.

Exactly!

On a more positive note, I just hit 3977 Spell Damage with some old gear and changing mundus stone. Tool-tip on Soul Assault says 69,840 damage ROFL! I think I'm gonna go PVP tonight.

Cinnamon_Spider

Kildayen wrote: »

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

It is definitely an issue with Torugs. I just took off one of my two pieces and no change to my spell damage.

I have to disagree. I tested the Torug's and it does add value when I add it. Make sure you check out my new research here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2423410/#Comment_2423410

You can disagree, but when I take off one of my two piece, my spell damage does not change.

Kildayen

Asayre wrote: »

@Kildayen, thanks for the detailed testing! So as I understand it the spell damage from your Old set is 2688. With 5 sorcerer skills this is increased by 10% to 2956.8 which is in agreement with your character sheet. The 10% is due to 2% for each Sorcerer skill.

I believe I understand why you have 142 more spell damage when you equip a restoration staff on your off bar. I have reported this issue on the PTS but I guess ZOS did not fix it. I believe you are using a Magnus restoration staff and when you switch to it the game errorneously thinks you have 4 pieces of Magnus equipped. The extra Magnus piece gives 129 base spell damage which is increased by 10% due to having 5 Sorcerer skills slotted and the Expert Mage passive. This makes the increase 142 spell damage.

From my testing on the PTS, I found such bugs are only an UI error. If you were to cast a spell, say Crystal Fragments, on the same monster with and without a restoration staff on your back bar your combat log should report the same damage.

The reason your spell damage is not being increased in your New set with a restoration staff on your back bar is that it is not activating any extra spell damage set bonuses errorneously.

Hope that helps and eases your qualms

Interesting. Thanks for your input. I will have to test this out.

Kildayen

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

Kildayen wrote: »

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

It is definitely an issue with Torugs. I just took off one of my two pieces and no change to my spell damage.

I have to disagree. I tested the Torug's and it does add value when I add it. Make sure you check out my new research here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2423410/#Comment_2423410

You can disagree, but when I take off one of my two piece, my spell damage does not change.

I'm not saying you are wrong. I worded that wrong. I meant that it isn't what is affecting my build. I tried that and had a different result than you.

Erynyes

Ezareth wrote: »

Preyfar wrote: »

Okay, so... with either 5X Julianos or Kagrenac's equipped, if I add a 4th piece of Magnus my spell power DOES NOT go up. See the video. Removing the 4th piece of Magnus armor doesn't affect my total spell damage, despite losing a 4th set bonus piece which SHOULD grant me additional spell damage.

Science done! 20K gold well spent.

Great work!

This doesn't explain my issue though since I'm not using Magnus at all (only Torugs).

i got exactly the same issue dexcribed by preyfar using torug's, the 4th piece bonus is not applying

k2blader

Kildayen wrote: »

Asayre wrote: »

@Kildayen, thanks for the detailed testing! So as I understand it the spell damage from your Old set is 2688. With 5 sorcerer skills this is increased by 10% to 2956.8 which is in agreement with your character sheet. The 10% is due to 2% for each Sorcerer skill.

I believe I understand why you have 142 more spell damage when you equip a restoration staff on your off bar. I have reported this issue on the PTS but I guess ZOS did not fix it. I believe you are using a Magnus restoration staff and when you switch to it the game errorneously thinks you have 4 pieces of Magnus equipped. The extra Magnus piece gives 129 base spell damage which is increased by 10% due to having 5 Sorcerer skills slotted and the Expert Mage passive. This makes the increase 142 spell damage.

From my testing on the PTS, I found such bugs are only an UI error. If you were to cast a spell, say Crystal Fragments, on the same monster with and without a restoration staff on your back bar your combat log should report the same damage.

The reason your spell damage is not being increased in your New set with a restoration staff on your back bar is that it is not activating any extra spell damage set bonuses errorneously.

Hope that helps and eases your qualms

Interesting. Thanks for your input. I will have to test this out.

Not sure I followed that correctly but.. for the old set, when switching to a staff (3-piece Magnus) the game incorrectly reports stats as if you have the Magnus 4-piece bonus? However for the new set, with a staff equipped, the game now correctly reports stats with the 3-piece bonus?

If it's a UI error only that would be a relief but still far from excusable IMO..

Kildayen

Whatever the issue is, I deserve to get all of the mats back that I used to create the gear set. I hope ZOS doesn't let me down.

Asayre

@k2blader yes, basically the game appears to count both your active and back bar for the number of Magnus pieces but then for the actual damage calculation it just counts the active bar. I totally agree that it is a horrible bug and needs to be fixed.

WillhelmBlack

My nirned swords are bugged. They give me an extra 25 spell damage over my resto staff xD

murmur

What bugs out is weapons and spell damage set bonus. You can try it out with torug's, put one torug weapon in bar one and second in bar two. Do weapon swap and you will see that you get two piece bonus while you should not.

NinjaApacHe

First of all thanks to OP and all you guys that really help the community with your testing. I'm lazy so thank you again. That said, what all this shows is that it's not a set or a weapon or a combo of CPs, skills or other, it is just all the system they made that it's completely [snip]. I was so happy when I crafted my new lvl VR15 (not enough money/resources for VR16) Julianos. Now I'm really sad .

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The Uninvited

Switched from 4 Martial (+ 2 Torug's + 1 Molag Kena + 3 Willpower) to 5 Julianos (+ 2 Torug's + 1 Molag Kena + 3 Willpower) and my spell damage went up like it should.

I am using double destro staff (Torug's). Julianos I crafted in V15 purple (not enough material for V16 yet), while my Martial set was all Legendary.

Draxys

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kronicus

I have read through these post but still feel a little in the dark. Is julianos only not working when created with an off hand weapon or is the whole "set" not working for any slots? I am just getting back into eso and just crafted vet 15 Julianos (mats) armor and want to know if I should be looking for another set bonus while zos figures this one out or because I am destroy/restro I don't have anything to worry about. Unfortunately my old gear was really dated so I don't have the old stat to go off of. I am not in front of my character sheet now but I believe my spell power is just over a measly 2k with purp gear and enchants.

I realize that its mostly the 5 pieces thats bugged? Just a little clarity for a noob.

ThatNeonZebraAgain

This bug is happening with me using 3pc Martial Knowledge (light hat, light gloves light belt), 3pc Kagnerac (heavy chest, heavy legs, medium feet), 3pc Willower (sword, shield, ring), 2pc Endurance (ring, necklace), 1pc Molag Kena (heavy shoulder). My spell damage, with all those set items equipped, is 2091.

With all else staying the same, if I unequip the Willpower shield and thus lose the 191 damage 3-piece bonus, it shows my spell power dropping by only 3 points down to 2089. HOWEVER, if I leave the shield on, but unequip the willpower ring instead (leaving me again with only the 2-piece bonus), my spell damage actually increases by 2 points to 2093.

Something is definitely very wrong here!

WillhelmBlack

Preyfar wrote: »

Kildayen wrote: »

Make sure you check out the long post I made. Did a lot of research.

In all testing on my side, it does seem to be that dual-weild, off hand set causing the issue.

This

ThatNeonZebraAgain

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Preyfar wrote: »

Kildayen wrote: »

Make sure you check out the long post I made. Did a lot of research.

In all testing on my side, it does seem to be that dual-weild, off hand set causing the issue.

This

Except see my post right above yours involving 1h/shield and jewelry.

ssewallb14_ESO

The Torug's thing seems to be a UI issue. I'm still getting a damage increase vs gear with the exact same stats/level/weight/enchantments but no torug's set bonus.

tennant94

Im having similar problems. My spell damage with 5 kragenacs 3 archmage 1 molag kena 3 willpower is the same as someone who has 5 kragenacs 4 magnus 3 willpower, i have an extra 129 spell damage set bonus but our stats don't display the 129 difference!?

Cherryblossom

Always amazes me that even when a member of the community goes to the effort of finding where the issue is, we still do not get any response from ZOS.

Truly would be nice for them to take an active part in the community rather than stupid posts say soon and others saying keep it respectful!

ZOS has failed from the launch to fix bugs and comunicate.

SeptimusDova

Khajiit thanks all of you who are working to find the answers from the bottom of his fluffy heart. This one spent all day clearing property for building and am very tired. Your work is appreciated by fuzzy one and many others. Many Kudos and positive Karma towards all of you!!!

Alphashado

SeptimusDova wrote: »

Khajiit thanks all of you who are working to find the answers from the bottom of his fluffy heart. This one spent all day clearing property for building and am very tired. Your work is appreciated by fuzzy one and many others. Many Kudos and positive Karma towards all of you!!!

I agree 100%

At least we can count on the community to research and respond to such a major issue, because even though there are several threads about this issue, we have yet to hear a single word from ZOS.

Yet they won't hesitate to shut down a "I'm done" thread within seconds of it being created. So they are watching and reading these threads, make no mistake. For whatever reason, they are intentionally postponing any kind of response. it's unfortunate, because this is a perfect example of why so many people are bitter at ZOS, and it doesn't have to be this way.