Monster Trophy Collections, Way to screw this up, and you did..
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This is the only thing patch notes say: Monster trophies now work more like fishing trophies: when you loot one, you automatically receive achievement credit, rather than having to use it as a separate action.
Here is the Issue, I can't store my monster trophies in my bank. Why is this a problem? Well unless it has changed on this patch, I only get collectibles on mobs within my level range, So what ZOS has managed to do here is make it IMPOSSIBLE for me to finish my collection.
ZOS, please explain to me how do you expect me to finish my monster collections? If you can't then undo this action. As far as I see it, you failed to mention this change in the patch notes, and therefore a bug which needs to be fixed.
I wasn't happy when today i was moving some inventory around and withdrew all my trophies on a toon to hold them there, then I can't even place them back in the bank to use on my trophy collecting toon. You had this implemented for a reason to make it easier to gather your collection for one toon, have you forgotten?
AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WE HAVE A BANK FOR A REASON, IT SHOULD NEVER PREVENT US FROM STORING OUR STUFF. IF THATS THE CASE, THEN SIMPLE GET RID OF MONSTER DROPS, IF THEY ARE AUTO COLLECTED ANYWAYS. Nothing pisses me off more than getting bank space and not being able to use it because so many things i can't store.
ok rants over.
Edited by Sneak_Thief on September 1, 2015 4:43PM Here is the Issue, I can't store my monster trophies in my bank. Why is this a problem? Well unless it has changed on this patch, I only get collectibles on mobs within my level range, So what ZOS has managed to do here is make it IMPOSSIBLE for me to finish my collection.
ZOS, please explain to me how do you expect me to finish my monster collections? If you can't then undo this action. As far as I see it, you failed to mention this change in the patch notes, and therefore a bug which needs to be fixed.
I wasn't happy when today i was moving some inventory around and withdrew all my trophies on a toon to hold them there, then I can't even place them back in the bank to use on my trophy collecting toon. You had this implemented for a reason to make it easier to gather your collection for one toon, have you forgotten?
AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WE HAVE A BANK FOR A REASON, IT SHOULD NEVER PREVENT US FROM STORING OUR STUFF. IF THATS THE CASE, THEN SIMPLE GET RID OF MONSTER DROPS, IF THEY ARE AUTO COLLECTED ANYWAYS. Nothing pisses me off more than getting bank space and not being able to use it because so many things i can't store.
ok rants over.
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Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭Sneak_Thief wrote: ». You had this implemented for a reason to make it easier to gather your collection for one toon, have you forgotten?
Nah..
It is considered Content if you have to rerun old areas on a new character to get them
Kinda gives the game some legs to run on until ZOS can slide something more treadmill worthy out as DLC !
Edited by Funkopotamus on September 1, 2015 4:44PMAnything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington0 -
MissBizz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Stealing this from another thread...
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2119917/#Comment_2119917ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »Hi everyone,
We’d like to provide a little insight and clarification on the upcoming changes to collectibles.
Currently, collectible trophies work differently for those obtained via fishing versus those obtained via monster kills. Fishing trophy collectibles grant the associated achievement upon item pick-up, whereas monster-kill trophy collectibles grant the associated achievement upon use. This difference was resulting in a high volume of bug reports and feedback in which players thought the collectible trophies were broken. That combined with the availability being limited by level-range prompted us to make the system more intuitive and uniform. That’s where the upcoming changes come in.
So what do those changes consist of? Here’s a short list:- All collectible trophies will now grant the associated achievement when the item is first looted.
- Monster trophies will always drop off appropriate level monsters for your character. A game-wide audit was done to make sure that no matter what level you are, there is always a place you can go to work on collecting the trophy you are looking for.
- Collectible trophies can no longer be banked and traded to another character.
Supposedly we can get ALL the collectibles at any level now.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord1 -
Sneak_Thief✭✭✭✭Stealing this from another thread...
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2119917/#Comment_2119917
Supposedly we can get ALL the collectibles at any level now.
No you completely mis read. "Monster trophies will always drop off appropriate level monsters for your character." Means your monsters need to be your levels to get the loot. Which means Ill never finish my collection.0 -
b92303008rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Sneak_Thief wrote: »This is the only thing patch notes say: Monster trophies now work more like fishing trophies: when you loot one, you automatically receive achievement credit, rather than having to use it as a separate action.
Here is the Issue, I can't store my monster trophies in my bank. Why is this a problem? Well unless it has changed on this patch, I only get collectibles on mobs within my level range, So what ZOS has managed to do here is make it IMPOSSIBLE for me to finish my collection.
ZOS, please explain to me how do you expect me to finish my monster collections? If you can't then undo this action. As far as I see it, you failed to mention this change in the patch notes, and therefore a bug which needs to be fixed.
I wasn't happy when today i was moving some inventory around and withdrew all my trophies on a toon to hold them there, then I can't even place them back in the bank to use on my trophy collecting toon. You had this implemented for a reason to make it easier to gather your collection for one toon, have you forgotten?
AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WE HAVE A BANK FOR A REASON, IT SHOULD NEVER PREVENT US FROM STORING OUR STUFF. IF THATS THE CASE, THEN SIMPLE GET RID OF MONSTER DROPS, IF THEY ARE AUTO COLLECTED ANYWAYS. Nothing pisses me off more than getting bank space and not being able to use it because so many things i can't store.
ok rants over.
Can't say I like this change but there will alway be a place where you can find monsters within your appropriate level.
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And until I see the list produced out of the game-wide audit they did that shows exactly where a character of each level in each alliance can go to get these collectibles, I flat out don't believe it. I guarantee that all they did was a query of the game to see if somewhere in the game you can find at least 1 mob of the appropriate type and level. Some of these are probably in one of the rounds of DSA, or found in a single mob at the end of a vet dungeon, or in one of the trials, or maybe even in an instance you can only go to once at a particular stage of a quest or something.Stealing this from another thread...
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2119917/#Comment_2119917
Supposedly we can get ALL the collectibles at any level now.
Come on @ZOS_JessicaFolsom show us the list of where we can go to farm each and every one of these collectibles for each alliance and level! As long as the locations are reasonable people will stop complaining!
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✭✭✭✭✭This sucks for those of us playing since launch when the trophies were broken. My main was done by the time they fixed this issue and I transfer stuff from my other characters to him to try and get the achievement on my main/on one character. Sounds like this broke that for me and if ZoS' game hadn't been broken for 6-8 months in this area after launch then it might not be an issue.-- @xaraan --
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b92303008rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Sneak_Thief wrote: »
No you completely mis read. "Monster trophies will always drop off appropriate level monsters for your character." Means your monsters need to be your levels to get the loot. Which means Ill never finish my collection.
The next sentence "A game-wide audit was done to make sure that no matter what level you are, there is always a place you can go to work on collecting the trophy you are looking for." pretty much provides the explanation you need.
How thorough the audit was is however another question though.Edited by b92303008rwb17_ESO on September 1, 2015 4:51PM0 -
Sneak_Thief✭✭✭✭b92303008rwb17_ESO wrote: »
Can't say I like this change but there will alway be a place where you can find monsters within your appropriate level.
FYI, http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2119917/#Comment_2119917
Nope there isn't, this was the reason why ZOS allows your other toons to help in the hunt.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Oh I agree with @UrQuan , I highly doubt they made it easy. If a mob type is included in possible dolmen monsters, they probably included those too.
I don't agree with the change @Sneak_Thief which is why I went on a mission to find that thread yesterday, I was just passing along the info. I'll be quite unhappy if I can't finish the collections on my main because there is some 1/100th chance that the mob appears at some dolmen which would give me a 1/100 chance of actually getting the collectible IS the mob shows (made up number, I don't know the real chances)Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord4 -
Sneak_Thief✭✭✭✭Oh I agree with @UrQuan , I highly doubt they made it easy. If a mob type is included in possible dolmen monsters, they probably included those too.
I don't agree with the change @Sneak_Thief which is why I went on a mission to find that thread yesterday, I was just passing along the info. I'll be quite unhappy if I can't finish the collections on my main because there is some 1/100th chance that the mob appears at some dolmen which would give me a 1/100 chance of actually getting the collectible IS the mob shows (made up number, I don't know the real chances)
Yea and that is what i am saying, Its rather unfair to say we need to go camp one spot for a week to wait on 1 mob to respawn because they just so happen to be in our level, then wait hours and hours to get a drop. If that is the case then they should open it up to all mobs, but still a stupid, unneeded change that was the way it was, for a reason.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Bad change that doesn't balance anything and only serves to frustrate players. These kind of changes are ones we can do without.
Nothing was broken about the old system. No one was exploiting anything or getting an edge over another player. I've been playing since near launch and was just finally starting to fill in some of my monster trophy achievements. I may never get them now. Not a huge concern but as I said, frustrating changes that don't add anything to the game should be avoided if at all possible. ZOS catches anger for legit nerfs and changes. Why add an unnecessary change to the list as well?
My proposed change is to just make fishing and monster trophy achievements account wide. Nobody in their right mind would ever do them on more than one character anyway.Edited by redspecter23 on September 1, 2015 5:04PM17 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sneak_Thief wrote: »
Yea and that is what i am saying, Its rather unfair to say we need to go camp one spot for a week to wait on 1 mob to respawn because they just so happen to be in our level, then wait hours and hours to get a drop. If that is the case then they should open it up to all mobs, but still a stupid, unneeded change that was the way it was, for a reason.
I would like to see the collectibles drop the same way crafting mats do. Allow them to drop from mobs that are not within 5 levels. And of course, for example, is a collectible is dropped from mudcrabs, EVERY mudcrab in the game should have the same chance to drop that collectible.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord7 -
Sneak_Thief✭✭✭✭redspecter23 wrote: »Bad change that doesn't balance anything and only serves to frustrate players. These kind of changes are ones we can do without.
Nothing was broken about the old system. No one was exploiting anything or getting an edge over another player. I've been playing since near launch and was just finally starting to fill in some of my monster trophy achievements. I may never get them now. Not a huge concern but as I said, frustrating changes that don't add anything to the game should be avoided if at all possible. ZOS catches anger for legit nerfs and changes. Why add an unnecessary change to the list as well?
Amen, they don't get it.Edited by Sneak_Thief on September 1, 2015 5:05PM3 -
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I would like to see the collectibles drop the same way crafting mats do. Allow them to drop from mobs that are not within 5 levels. And of course, for example, is a collectible is dropped from mudcrabs, EVERY mudcrab in the game should have the same chance to drop that collectible.
Yep this is the way it should be considering the new change. Which I would be ok with. But I think someone made the mention in another thread, had this [snip] been working when i got my monster hunter achieve and I was one of the first to get it, I would had ALOT more collectibles now. So it isn't exactly fair that my first vet missed every non vet mobs trophies, and now I have the daunting task of finding only vet stuff to kill.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]Edited by ZOS_Brett on September 2, 2015 4:09AM2 -
Sneak_Thief✭✭✭✭So i see the example about needing Fleshy Symbiont, Ok so my v15 AD toon which is now retired from vet runs (spec'd into all crafting and collecting and not combat), so ZOS means to tell me my only option is to get in a group of 4, and grind a vet dungeon 100 times to kill 3 atronachs?Edited by Sneak_Thief on September 1, 2015 5:16PM4
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Sneak_Thief✭✭✭✭@ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_GinaBruno Please propose to me how I should get my needed Fleshy Symbiont, Solo, on a toon which is all crafting and collection.
AD, v15 Please share a solo viable location with more than 1 Fleshy Atronach. (oh and there is many many more that I need) Keep in mind I want to continue to level my new toons and not be forced to play a toon with 1700+ hours and I am sick and tired of playing, yet the one who has most of my collectibles.
And that is my biggest issue, I want to keep playing and experience new toons, I don't want to grind what may take another 500-1000 hours to get achieves just because my first one has more. Your team either needs to make all mobs drop trophies or undo this trivial BS change.Edited by Sneak_Thief on September 1, 2015 5:40PM3 -
Sneak_Thief✭✭✭✭Even with fishing if we have already earned the trophy on the catch, who the hell is it hurting to let another toon learn it? Yet now its just a waste.3
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Can't say I like this change but there will alway be a place where you can find monsters within your appropriate level.
FYI, http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2119917/#Comment_2119917
@b92303008rwb17_ESO , you obviously don't get it, or haven't spent much time trying to gather collectibles. The only reason I only have two collectibles left is because I was able to use alts to collect some items for which my main was overleveled. Without this ability, there will be limited places to get some collectibles. For example, any EP vet will have to group up and wade through DSA to find nix-hounds, and since they are few in number, will likely have to do this multiple times. Thankfully, my collector is DC, cuz I would not go through this myself. So unless Zos added in monster locations, including places like DSA as a place to get level appropriate collectible drops is at the least insensitive customer service. Ans I'm pretty sure NO new monter locations were added to existing content, because those are usually noted in patch notes. MAYBE there are some drops in the new DLC besides the new collectibles found there.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »
Hi everyone,
We’d like to provide a little insight and clarification on the upcoming changes to collectibles.
Currently, collectible trophies work differently for those obtained via fishing versus those obtained via monster kills. Fishing trophy collectibles grant the associated achievement upon item pick-up, whereas monster-kill trophy collectibles grant the associated achievement upon use. This difference was resulting in a high volume of bug reports and feedback in which players thought the collectible trophies were broken. That combined with the availability being limited by level-range prompted us to make the system more intuitive and uniform. That’s where the upcoming changes come in.
The bold text explains why they made the change. It seems like it would have been easier to simply add a simple explanation to the collectible description, and this was suggested to Zos, but apparently they made up their mind they knew better. My suggestion is we flood them with complaints about the new system. That seems to be something they respond to, based on the above explanation.Edited by Ourorboros on September 1, 2015 5:47PMPC/NA/DCBreton Sorcerer Maester.White - BB meets GoT >Master Crafter< { 9 Traits completed 4/23/15 }
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One example that has been brought up over and over again is Nix hounds for vet-rank EP characters. The only location I'm aware of where they can be found for the collectible is DSA, which has 2 of them. So unless there's somewhere else they can be found for an EP character, that's totally unreasonable.Sneak_Thief wrote: »
Yea and that is what i am saying, Its rather unfair to say we need to go camp one spot for a week to wait on 1 mob to respawn because they just so happen to be in our level, then wait hours and hours to get a drop. If that is the case then they should open it up to all mobs, but still a stupid, unneeded change that was the way it was, for a reason.
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Sensesfail13✭✭✭✭Yea I cant use the trophies I already had in my inventory just never got around to clicking now... I agree, awesome job...Wisherr, Dragonknight, Haderus, NA Server.
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Blade_07✭✭✭✭Oh CRAP!!!! I was saving trophies on a different toon to use later on one that I was gunna level next! WTF zenimax!!!!
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Wait... You can't even use the ones that you already had in your inventory to add them to your collection?!? Sheesh, this change is even worse than I thought it was!Sensesfail13 wrote: »Yea I cant use the trophies I already had in my inventory just never got around to clicking now... I agree, awesome job...
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Manut Redguard Temp (AD)
Tylera the Summoner Altmer Sorc (EP)
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✭Sneak_Thief wrote: »
Yea and that is what i am saying, Its rather unfair to say we need to go camp one spot for a week to wait on 1 mob to respawn because they just so happen to be in our level, then wait hours and hours to get a drop. If that is the case then they should open it up to all mobs, but still a stupid, unneeded change that was the way it was, for a reason.
Lol.. you woulda HATED EQ then. The WEEKS I spent, swimming in a lake, casting a spell that required fish scales so I could swim under water, just to get ONE PIECE of the part for my Epic Weapon...Power level to CP160 in a week:
Where is the end game? You just played it.
Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
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Sneak_Thief✭✭✭✭Generally I'm not like this unless its something I'm passionate about, but sorry ZOS Im going to continue to raise hell about this until I see a change.7
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Sneak_Thief✭✭✭✭Wait... You can't even use the ones that you already had in your inventory to add them to your collection?!? Sheesh, this change is even worse than I thought it was!
No he is saying he had them on a bank toon like i did, saving them for his other toon who will be his collector. And now he can't use them on the intended toon.0 -
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✭✭Sneak_Thief wrote: »Generally I'm not like this unless its something I'm passionate about, but sorry ZOS Im going to continue to raise hell about this until I see a change.
I'm with you on this Sneak_Thief. I only have two collectibles left, but one has only two bad grinding options without the use of bank transfer. Zos doesn't listen!!!
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BaneSixEchoSoul ShrivenI'm level 12-ish, playing on Xbox One.
I've got a Petrified Spider Egg in my inventory. It's been in there for awhile, several levels at least, because I can't seem to do anything with it.
I can't use it (which I think I'm supposed to be able to so that it counts towards an achievement?), and I can't put it in the bank.
So what am I supposed to do with it?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭BaneSixEcho wrote: »I can't use it (which I think I'm supposed to be able to so that it counts towards an achievement?), and I can't put it in the bank.
So what am I supposed to do with it?
Have you tried selling it, opening your backpack to refresh the UI, and then buying it back from the vendor? I guess that depends on whether buyback is programmed as a unique inventory action or just an undo...signing off0 -
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✭✭BaneSixEcho wrote: »I'm level 12-ish, playing on Xbox One.
I've got a Petrified Spider Egg in my inventory. It's been in there for awhile, several levels at least, because I can't seem to do anything with it.
I can't use it (which I think I'm supposed to be able to so that it counts towards an achievement?), and I can't put it in the bank.
So what am I supposed to do with it?
This is a known bug. Maybe it will be fixed when the patch is applied to console servers. If not, it will be fixed at some point. If you really want the achievement, hang on to it until the bug is fixed.
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